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Muhammad Ibrahim

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  1. lol Shia are wrong? lol I don't know what kind of research you've been doing. http://www.shiachat....nce-over-islam/ 1) There is not Sunni in the world who has been able to refute this: Sahih al-Bukhari is the most authentic collection of hadiths in the Sunnah Sahih Bukhari: Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard Muhammad say "There will be twelve Muslim rulers." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." Book 89:329 Sahih Muslim is the second most authentic collection of hadiths in the Sunnah Sahih Muslim: Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard Muhammad say "The (Islamic) religion will continue until the Hour (day of resurrection), having twelve Caliphs for you, all of them will be from Quraysh." Book 20:4477-4483 And there are more than 20 similar narrations Sunan al-Tirmidhi: The Prophet said: "There will be after me twelve rulers, all of them from Quraysh." Hadith 2149 (numbering of al-Alamiyyah) Sunan Abu Dawood: The Prophet said: "This religion remains standing until there are twelve vicegerents over you, all of them agreeable to the nation, all of them from Quraysh." Book 36:4266 A Jewish man named Na'thal, went to the Prophet and among the questions he asked who would succeed him. The Prophet said, specifying them, "After me, 'Ali ibn Abi Talib and then my two sons, Hasan and Husayn and after Husayn, nine Imams will follow from his children." "The Jewish man said, 'Name them.' "The Prophet said, "When Husayn leaves this world, his son, 'Ali, and after him, his child Muhammad and after Muhammad, his son Ja'far and after Ja'far, his son Musa and after Musa, his son 'Ali and after 'Ali, Muhammad. After Muhammad, his child, 'Ali and after 'Ali, Hasan and after Hasan, his child Muhammad al-Mahdi. These are the twelve Imams." Yanabi' al-Muwadat, p. 431 "This religion shall always be upright till there are twelve from Quraish. When they are no more, the earth will be destroyed (swallowed) with all its inhabitants" Kanz al-Ummaal, vol 12, pg 34, Tr. No. 3386 - Kash al-Astaar, part 1, pg 99 narrating from al-Ebaanah - E'laam al-Waraa pg 384 - Muqtazab al-Asar, pg 3-4 - Manaaqeb of ibn Shar Aashob, vol 1, pg 290 - Behaar al-Anwaar vol 36, pg 267, Chap 41, Tr. No. 87 - Al-Insaaf, pg 361 "Surely this religion will always overcome its opponents and no enemy or deserter can ever harm it till there are twelve caliphs from my nation in it. All of them will be from Quraish" Musnad-e-Ahmad, vol 5, pg 87 Nowehere in Sunnism are there 12 Muslim rulers, all of them from Quraysh. The 'Four Rightly Guided' Rashidun Caliphs were four, there were more than 30 Ummayad Caliphs, Nearly 40 Abbasid Caliphs, and many Sunni Caliphs are not even from Quraysh! Desperate / straw man Sunni responses: 1) "It doesn't say Ahlul Bayt! That means it's not talking about the 12 Imams!" Firstly, that makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe if it specifically said 'not Ahlul Bayt' what you're saying would actually make sense. Secondly, the 12 Shia Imams are the only 12 Muslim leaders who are all from Quraysh in all of Islam. http://en.wikipedia....List_of_Caliphs 2) "There are only 11 Imams! The 12th Imam does not exist! You have no proof he exists!" Firstly, it's important to note that this proof still completely contradicts Sunni'ism, but they completely disregard that fact and think that if they say Shias only believe in 11 Imams that, that somehow makes it any less contradictory to Sunni'ism. Secondly, this argument is made from an Atheist standpoint. Whether he exists or not, Twelver Shia believe in him and their belief of Islam is the only one in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah, so if you want to say you don't believe in the 12th Imam, you might as well be saying you are converting to Atheism. Thirdly, apart from the fact that he was witnessed by countless people at his father's funeral where he even led the prayer, there are dozens of hadiths confirming his existence, many of which are from Sunni sources: AlAjalYaImam said: (1) Muhammad b. Talha Shafi'i writes: "Abu al-Qasim Muhammad b. Hasan was born in the year 258 AH/873 CE in Samarra. His father's name was Hasan Khalis. Among the titles [of this last Imam] are: Hujjat, Khalaf Salih (the righteous offspring) and Muntazar (the awaited one)." Following this statement he has related several traditions on the subject of the Mahdi, with the concluding statement: "These hadith-reports confirm the existence of Imam Hasan 'Askari's son, who is in concealment and will appear later." Matalib al-su'al (1287 AH edition), p. 89. (2) Muhammad b. Yusuf, following his entry on the death of Imam Hasan 'Askari, writes: "He did not have any child beside Muhammad. It is said that he is the same as the Awaited Imam (imam muntazar). Kifayat al-talib, p. 312. (3) Ibn Sabbagh Maliki writes: "Section Twelve on the Life of Abu al-Qasim Muhammad, Hujjat, Khalaf Salih, the son of Abu Muhammad Hasan Khalis: He is the twelfth Imam of the Shi'a." Then he has recorded the history of the Imam and has related the traditions about the Mahdi. Fusul al-muhimma (Second edition), p. 273 and 286. (4) Yusuf b. Qazughli, after writing his account of the life of Imam Hasan 'Askari, writes: "His son's name is Muhammad, and his patronymic is Abu 'Abd Allah and Abu al-Qasim. He is the Proof of God's existence, the Master of the Age, the Qa'im, and the Muntazar. The Imamate has come to an end with him." Then he reports traditions about the Mahdi. Tadhkirat khawass al-umma, p. 363. (5) Shablanji in the book entitled Nur al-absar, writes: "Muhammad is the son of Hasan 'Askari. His mother was a slave girl by the name of Narjis or Sayqal or Sawsan. His patronymic is Abu al-Qasim. The Twelver Shi'ites know him as: Hujjat, Mahdi, Khalaf Salih, Qa'im, Muntazar, and Master of the Age." Nur al-absar (Cairo edition), p. 342. (6) Ibn Hajar, in his al-Sawa'iq al-muharriqa, following the biography of Imam Hasan 'Askari writes: "He has not left a son besides Abu al-Qasim, who is known as Muhammad and Hujjat. That boy was five years old when his father died." al-Sawa'iq al-muharriqa, p. 206. (7) Muhammad b. 'Ali Hamawi writes: "Abu al-Qasim Muhammad Muntazar was born in the year 259 AH/874 CE in Samarra." Ta'rikh mansuri (8) Ibn Khallikan relates in his biographical dictionary Wafayat al-a'yan: "Abu al-Qasim Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-'Askari is the twelfth Imam of the Imamiyya, that is the Twelver Shi'ites. The Shi'ites believe that he is the one who is the awaited Qa'im and the Mahdi." Wafayat al-a'yan (1284 AH edition), Vol. 2, p. 24. (9) In Rawdat al-safa Mir Khwand writes: "Muhammad was the son of Hasan. His patronymic is Abu al-Qasim. The Imamiyya acknowledge that he is the Hujjat, the Qa'im, and the Mahdi." (10) Sha'rani writes in his al-Yawaqit wa al-jawahir: "Mahdi is the son of Imam Hasan 'Askari. He was born on the fifteenth night of Sha'ban, 255 AH. He is alive and will remain so until he will emerge with Jesus. Now it is 957 AH. He is, thus, 703 years old." al-Yawaqit wa al-jawahir (1351 AH edition), Vol. 2, p. 143. (11) Sha'rani, quoting Ibn 'Arabi's Futuhat makiyya, section 366, writes: "When the earth will be filled with tyranny and injustice the Mahdi will rise and will fill the earth with justice and equity. He will be among the descendants of the Prophet and from the line of Fatima. His grandfather will be Husayn, and his father will be Hasan 'Askari, the son of 'Ali Naqi, the son of Muhammad Taqi, the son of 'Ali Rida, the son of Musa Kazim, the son of Ja'far Sadiq, the son of Muhammad Baqir, the son of Zayn al-'Abidin, the son of Husayn b. 'Ali b. Abi Talib." Ibid., p. 143. 12) Khwaja Parsa in his book Fasl al-khitab writes: "Muhammad, the son of Hasan 'Askari, was born on fifteenth night of Sha'ban, 255 AH/870 CE. His mother's name was Narjis. His father died when he was five years of age. From that time until now he is in occultation. He is the awaited Imam of the Shi'a. His existence is well established among his companions, trusted associates and family. God will prolong his age as He has done in the case of Elijah and Eliash." Yanabi' al-mawadda, Vo. 2, p. 126. (13) Abu al-Falah Hanbali in his Shadharat al-dhahab and Dhahabi in al-'Ibar fi khabar min ghabar write: "Muhammad is the son of Hasan 'Askari, the son of 'Ali Hadi, the son of Jawad, the son of 'Ali Rida, the son of Musa Kazim, the son of Ja'far Sadiq, 'Alawi, Husayni. His patronymic is Abu al-Qasim and the Shi'a know him as Khalaf Salih, Hujjat, Mahdi, Muntazar, and the Master of the Age (Sahib al-zaman)." Shadharat al-dhahab (Beirut edition), Vol. 2, p. 141 as well as in al-'Ibar fi khabar min ghabar (Kuwait edition), Vol. 2, p. 31 (14) Muhammad Amin Baghdadi in the book entitled: Saba'ik al-dhahab writes: "Muhammad, who is also known as Mahdi, was five years old at the time of his father's death." Saba'ik al-dhahab, p. 78. Surah Al-An'am, Ayah 55: "Thus do We elaborate the signs, so that the way of the guilty may be exposed." 2) It has been 100% authenticated in the Sunnah that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said that he will leave the world with the Quran and Ahlul Bayt, and that the 'Quran and Sunnah' narration has been proven to be unauthentic. Muhammad_follower said: SAHIH MUSLIM Book 031, Number 5920: ...O people, I am a human being. I am about to receive a messenger (the angel of death) from my Lord and I, in response to Allah's call, (would bid good-bye to you), but I am leaving among you two weighty things: the one being the Book of Allah in which there is right guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it. He exhorted (us) (to hold fast) to the Book of Allah and then said: The second are the members of my household. http://www.cmje.org/...lim/031-smt.php NOTE: "my sunna" hadith IS NOT WEAK. For it to be WEAK (dhaeef) it needs to have people in the chain of narration who 'forget easily' or 'have a bad memory.' A weak hadith - there is still chance that it is true. But the "my sunna" hadith has FABRICATORS in the chain! People who would openly make lies about the Sahaba and the ProphetÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå. So it is not only WEAK, but its is WORSE ---> FABRICATED (mawdhoo'). Ayatullah Sayyid Kamaal al-Haidary has more than 10 episodes going through all 4 chains of "my sunna" and proves its NOT ONLY WEAK, but rather FABRICATED. If anyone dares to object, I will translate it inshaAllah. So why do they continue to attribute lies to the Prophet (pbuh) and reiterate 'my Sunnah', especially when the Sunnah itself confirms the 12 Imams? In addition to this: Quote The Most Noble Messenger (S.A.W.W.) appointed 'Ali (A.S.) to guard the city on his behalf, and he ordered that he should remain in Madinah until he returned, administering the affairs of the Muslims. When the Hypocrites realized that their treacherous plans had been divulged, they began spreading idle rumors in the hope of weakening 'Ali's position. They hinted that the Prophet (S.A.W.W.‎) was angry with 'Ali (A.S.) and that it was for this reason that he had not been permitted to accompany him on a major military expedition. 'Ali (A.S.) was greatly troubled and saddened by the circulation of these rumors, and he hastened to the presence of the Prophet (S.A.W.W.) who had already left Madinah. He told him what had happened, and with a single historic sentence he clarified the special position of 'Ali (A.S.) once and for all: "Are you not content that your relation to me shall be like the relation of Harun to Musa, excepting only that there shall be no prophet after me?" At the end of this hadith there is a sentence that many Sunni scholars have recorded in their books: "It is not fitting that I should depart without your being my deputy and successor." al-Hakim, al-Mustadrak, Vol. III, p. 63 al-Nasa'i, al-Khasa'is, p. 63 al-Hamawini, Fara'id al-simtayn, Vol. I, p. 328 al-Dhahabi, Talkhis al-Mustadrak, Vol. III, p. 132 Ahmad b. Hanbal, al-Musnad, Vol. I, p. 331 al-Khwarazmi, al-Manaqib, p. 72 al-Ganji, Kifayat al-Talib, p. 116 Ibn Asakir, al-Tarikh al-Kabir, Vol. I, p. 203 al-Biladhuri, Ansab al-Ashraf, Vol. II, p. 106 Ibn Kathir, al-Bidayah, Vol. VII, p. 338 al-'Asqalani, al-Isabah, Vol. II, p.509. For those of who who are unaware, the Prophet Harun (as) was the brother and successor of the Prophet Musa (as). Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) in successorship had every right over the Ummah the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had except prophethood (i.e. to communicate the direct words of Allah in first-person), the same way the Prophet Harun (as) had authority after the prophethood of Musa (as). 3) Proofs from the Quran: The Quran says in Surah Al-Ahzaab, Ayah 33: "...Verily, Allah has decreed to purify you, O' Ahlul Bayt, and sanctify you in a perfect way" Sunni rebuttal: "No! It's taken out of context, it's only talking about the wives of the Prophet (pbuh)!" Firstly, it is important to note that nowhere in this Ayah are the wives of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned. Surah Al-Ahzaab, Full Ayah 33: "Stay in your houses and do not display your finery with the display of the former [days of ] ignorance. Maintain the prayer and pay the zakat and obey Allah and His Apostle. Verily, Allah has decreed to purify you, O' Ahlul Bayt, and sanctify you in a perfect way." Each Ayah is an individual sign of Allah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayah Quote Ayah or Aayah is the Arabic word for evidence or sign: "These are the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, revelations, etc.) of Allah, which We recite to you (O Muhammad) with truth. Then in which speech after Allah and His Ayat will they believe?" (Surat Al-Jathiya 45:6, Mohsin Khan translation of the Qur'an) Secondly, AlAjalYaImam, on 20 July 2012 - 01:50 AM, said: The verse of Purification, or Surah Ahzab 33:33. Now in your words it refers to the women of the household of the Prophet (pbuh), the first sentence does, but then the second sentence, which Goku was referring to: Oh household of the Prophet, God only wishes to remove impurities from you in a thorough purification." This sentence refers to the Ahlul Bayt, or 4 specific people. Who go as follows: 1. Imam Ali (A.S.) 2. Sayyida Fatima (S.A.) 3. Imam Hasan (A.S.) 4. Imam Hussain (A.S.) Now before going further, we look at the 3 meanings of the word Ahl (Family): The extended Family The Wives The close family The word Ahl is being referred to is the close family. The reason it's not the close family, let's look grammatically why it's not the wives. Now it's a known fact the Qur'an is not in the order it was revealed in, some verses are here, and others are there, so it's not out of the ordinary that the verse referring to the family, and one referring to the wives will be side by side. But a clear indication the verse is not talking about the wives is the words Ankum (from you) and Yutahhirakum (To cleanse you). They are both in the masculine plural form. Though it is known that in Arabic Masculine is unisex, there is a problem saying that since the fact that the previous sentence in reference to the wives used only feminine verbs and pronouns, while this sentences uses masculine. The feminine for the above would be Ankunna and Yutahhirakunna. The sudden change in grammatical gender reference is one indication it is not the wives. Now let's see another indication this verse about removing impurities was not towards the wives. The word for impurity here is Rijs, which is referred to in the Qur'an as sinfulness of either false beliefs, or sinful acts (Refer to Qur'an: 5:90, 10:100, 22:30, 9:95, 9:125). So if said purification happened, then the wives wouldn't commit such Rijs after this purification. However we see that there are verses in the Qur'an which say that they did do misconduct (33:30). And there are such where they hurt the Prophet and Allah says he can give better wives than them (66:1-5). Beyond the evidence from the Qur'an, let's look at the Sahih Hadith of the Shiites and the Sunnis. They have been deemed Sahih and accepted by both Sunni and Shiite books. So I will give you them, with Sunni references also: Hussain Ibn Sabrah asked Zaid Ibn Arqam, "Who are the members of His household? Aren't His wives part of the members of his family?" Thereupon Zaid said, "His wives are members of his family [in a general sense], but (Islamically), the members of his family are those for whom acceptance of zakat is forbidden." Hussain asked, "Who are they?". Upon which Zaid said, "Ali and the offspring of Ali, Aqil and the offspring of Aqil, the offspring of Jaffer, and the offspring of Abbas." Hussain said "These are those for whom the acceptance of zakat is forbidden?" Zaid replied, "Yes." Sahih Muslim #31.5920-2. According to Sahih Muslim, Zaid then expanded on this hadith and stated this: Hussain Then asked: "Aren't the wives (Of the Prophet) included amongst the members of the household?" He said, "No, by Allah, a woman lives with a man [as his wife] for a certain period; he then divorces her, and she goes back to her parents and her people. The members of his household include his own self, and his kith, and kin, for whom the acceptance of zakat is prohibited." Sahih Muslim #31.5923 Now to get the exact hadith on who is being referred to in this verse of the Qur'an, again we look at the hadith which are both deemed Sahih by Sunnis and Shiites, and are accepted. To this let me give you the sources of the Hadith (As recorded in the Sunni books, not the Shiite sources), because I don't want write them all out. Sahih Muslim #31.5955 Sunan Tirmidhi #3787, #3205 Tafsir Al Durr Al Manthoor, under 33:33 Tafsir Tabari again under 33:33 Tafsir Ibn Katheer, Another reference by Al Durr Al Manthur under said verse, Tafsir Ibn Atiyyah, Tafsir Thalabi, all under 33:33 I won't go on to proofs of the Masoomiyaat, and other ideas and proofs around the Ahlul bayt being referred to in this verse, but yeah I'll end there after proving it is the Ahlul Bayt (Ali, Fatima, Hasan, Hussain) being talked about in the verse. I already proved 33:33, let's focus on 5:55, you say it has nothing to do with my religion, honestly, either you're ignorant of your own Sunni books, or you're a Qur'anist, if you're a Qur'anist, God take mercy on you, it just blows me away that a sect like that exists. But let me provide you Hadith to show that this verse was in reference to Imam Ali on the incident of giving his ring to the poor man, while he was praying. Firstly let's see the verse on it's own without hadith, it translates to "Verily your Vali is none other than Allah, and his Messenger, and those who have believed, and keep on prayers, and give the poor-rate, while bowing down." Now many translators say it means and they bow down, but no, it's not "Wa Raki'oon" (And Bow Down), it's "Hum Raki'oon" (While they Bow down). You need to think that this verse is referring to a specific person, who's done all these tasks. Now to find out we go to the Hadith of the Shiite and Sunni, though the Ahadith are with the Shiites anyways, let's see the Sunni places they've been recorded. Tafsir al Kabir, by Ahmad Ibn Mohammed Al Ta'libi, under 5:55 Tafsir Al Kabir, by Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari, Volume 6, page 186, 288-289 Tafsir Al Jamiul Hukam Al Qur'an, by Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Qurtubi, Volume 6, Page 219 Tafsir Al Khazin, Volume 2, page 68 Tafsir Al Dur Al Manthur, by Jalaludeen Al Sayuti, Volume 2, page 293-294 Tafsir Al Khashaf, by Al Zamakhshari, Egypt 1373, volume 1, page 505, 649 Asbab Al Nuzool, by Jalaludeen Al Suyuti, Egypt 1383, Volume 1 page 73, on Authority of Ibn Abbas Shahr Al Tijrid, by Allamah Qushji Akham Al Qur'an, Al Jassas, Volume 2 page 542-543 Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 5 page 38 Kanzul Umal, by al Muttaqi al Hindi, volume 6 page 391 Al Awsat, by Tabarani, narrated on authority of Ammar Ibn Yassir Tafseer Al Manar, Volume 6 page 366 Tafseer Ibn Katheer, Voume 2, page 113-114, (Beirut 1986 edition) Al Riyad Al Nadir, Volume 2 page 302 All of those above sources, and more, all confirm it was Imam Ali being referred to directly within this verse, and all record the incident of the ring. I just want to say how you go around, calling people Ignorant, and considering yourself to be so wise, is the most ironic thing I've seen, as can be observed in this situation... Sunni responses: Dagga, on 20 July 2012 - 04:16 PM, said: You think anyone is going to read that :/ ? TruePath, on 10 August 2012 - 11:43 AM, said: @ dagga, maashAllah I love your patience. I can't tolerate their hatred, makes me cross! that was something new to me I've never ecountered the true meanings of shia uptil I joined shiachat. You can present the truth tue them till you're blue in the face but they'll just spin it according to their liking. I hope Allah guides them. Maybe these people should look up the meaning of the words hypocrisy and irony. They reject the Quran and Sunnah, but continue saying they are on the right path of Islam and tell others that do follow the Quran and Sunnah they are on the wrong path. Surah Al-Munafiqun (The Hypocrites): {1} "When the hypocrites come to you they say, 'We bear witness that you are indeed the apostle of Allah.' Allah knows that you are indeed His Apostle, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are indeed liars." {2} "They make a shield of their oaths, and bar from the way of Allah. Evil indeed is what they used to do." Surah Al-Hajj: {54} "That those who have been given knowledge may know that it is the truth from your Lord, and so they may have faith in it, and their hearts may be humbled before Him. Indeed Allah guides those who have faith to a straight path." {55} "Those who are faithless persist in their doubt about it, until the Hour overtakes them suddenly, or they are overtaken by the punishment of an inauspicious day." {56} "On that day all sovereignty will belong to Allah: He will judge between them. Then those who have faith and do righteous deeds will be in gardens of bliss," {57} "and those who are faithless and who deny Our signs —for such there will be a humiliating punishment. " Allah will punish them for their hypocrisy and denying Allah's signs, as well as barring others from the way of Allah. Surah As-Saaffat, Ayah 83: "And most surely Ibraham was among the Shia of him (i.e., Noah)" Sunni rebuttal: "So?! Who cares if the Quran said Ibrahim, a Prophet of Allah, was a Shia?!" Surah As-Sajda, Ayah 24-25: {24} "And amongst them We appointed imams to guide [the people] by Our command, when they had been patient and had conviction in Our signs." {25} "Indeed your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that about which they used to differ." Sunni rebuttal: N/A This also backs the Shia belief that Imams are divinely appointed, and not elected as many of the Sunni Caliphs were. It is also important to note that these are also individual Ayahs. Sunnis don't perform Wudu according to the Quran (Surah Al-Ma'ida, Ayah 6) and say their Wudu is better Surah Al-Ma'ida, Ayah 6: "O you who have faith! When you stand up for prayer, wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe a part of your heads and your feet, up to the ankles." It specifically says to "wipe" part of your heads and feet, not 'wash'. This is further emphasized by the fact that it was not simply included into same part as 'washing' faces and hands up to the elbows, but rather is a separate articulation/elaboration. It also specifically says "a part" of your heads and feet, not your entire foot. Sunni rebuttal: "Our way is more complete! That is the bare minimum in the Quran!" Astaghfirullah... And these are the same ones making up slanderous lies about the Shia believing the Quran is incomplete? I've seen many Sunni prayer guides that, when talking about Wudu, say to wash the feet 'properly' by washing the whole foot. Is the way in the Quran not proper?! Astaghfirullah... Surah Al-Anfaal, Ayah 75: "And those who believed afterwards and migrated, and waged jihad along with you, they belong to you; but the blood relatives are more entitled to inherit from one another in the Book of Allah. Indeed Allah has knowledge of all things." This Ayah is clearly talking to the Prophet (pbuh), as it is talking about migrating (i.e. to Medinah) and waging Jihad (i.e. the people who migrated to Medinah and waged Jihad with the Prophet (pbuh) against the polytheists). Ayah 70 also starts with "O Prophet!" and Ayah 75 is a continuation of the same sequence. Surah Al-Anfaal: {70} "O Prophet! Say to the captives who are in your hands, 'If Allah finds any good in your hearts, He will give you [something which is] better than what has been taken away from you, and He will forgive you, and Allah is all-forgiving, all-merciful.'" {71} "But if they seek to betray you, then they have already betrayed Allah earlier, and He gave [you] power over them; and Allah is all-knowing, all-wise." {72} "Indeed those who have believed and migrated and waged jihad with their possessions and persons in the way of Allah, and those who gave [them] shelter and help —they are heirs of one another. As for those who have believed but did not migrate, you have no heirdom in relation to them whatsoever until they migrate. Yet if they ask your help for the sake of religion, it is incumbent on you to help them, excepting against a people with whom you have a treaty; and Allah sees best what you do." {73} "As for the faithless, they are allies of one another. Unless you do the same, there will be turmoil on the earth and great corruption." {74} "Those who have believed, migrated, and waged jihad in the way of Allah, and those who gave them shelter and help, it is they who are truly the faithful. For them shall be forgiveness and a noble provision." {75} "And those who believed afterwards and migrated, and waged jihad along with you, they belong to you; but the blood relatives are more entitled to inherit from one another in the Book of Allah. Indeed Allah has knowledge of all things." Sunni rebuttal: N/A This is also in line with other Ayahs from the Quran about Prophets passing down divine authority through their progeny. Surah Al-Anbiya: {72} "And We gave him Ishaq, and Yaqub as well for a grandson, and each of them We made righteous." {73} "We made them imams, guiding by Our command, and We revealed to them the performance of good deeds, the maintenance of prayers, and the giving of zakat, and they used to worship Us." Surah Al-Ankabut, Ayah 27: "And We gave him Ishaq and Yaqub, and We ordained among his descendants prophethood and the Book, and We gave him his reward in the world, and in the Hereafter he will indeed be among the Righteous." Surah Maryam: {51} "And mention in the Book Musa. Indeed he was exclusively dedicated [to Allah], and an apostle and a prophet." {52} "We called him from the right side of the Mount and We drew him near for confidential discourse." {53} "And We gave him out of Our mercy his brother Harun, a prophet." We come to this again: Quote 'Ali (Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã) was greatly troubled and saddened by the circulation of these rumors, and he hastened to the presence of the Prophet (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå‎) who had already left Madinah. He told him what had happened, and with a single historic sentence he clarified the special position of 'Ali (Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã) once and for all: "Are you not content that your relation to me shall be like the relation of Harun to Musa, excepting only that there shall be no prophet after me?" al-Hakim, al-Mustadrak, Vol. III, p. 63 al-Nasa'i, al-Khasa'is, p. 63 al-Hamawini, Fara'id al-simtayn, Vol. I, p. 328 al-Dhahabi, Talkhis al-Mustadrak, Vol. III, p. 132 Ahmad b. Hanbal, al-Musnad, Vol. I, p. 331 al-Khwarazmi, al-Manaqib, p. 72 al-Ganji, Kifayat al-Talib, p. 116 Ibn Asakir, al-Tarikh al-Kabir, Vol. I, p. 203 al-Biladhuri, Ansab al-Ashraf, Vol. II, p. 106 Ibn Kathir, al-Bidayah, Vol. VII, p. 338 al-'Asqalani, al-Isabah, Vol. II, p.509. Surah Al-An'am: {82} "Those who have faith and do not taint their faith with wrongdoing —for such there shall be safety, and they are the [rightly] guided.'" {83} "This was Our argument that We gave to Ibraham against his people. We raise in rank whomever We wish. Indeed your Lord is all-wise, all-knowing." {84} "And We gave him Isaac and Jacob and guided each of them. And Nuh We had guided before, and from his offspring, Dawud and Sulaiman, Ayyub, Yaqub, Musa and Harun —thus do We reward the virtuous—" {85} "and Zakariyya, Yahya, Isa and Ilyas, —each of them among the righteous—" {86} "and Ismail, Alyasa, Yunus and Lut —each We graced over all the nations—" {88} "That is Allah's guidance: with it He guides whomever He wishes of His servants. But were they to ascribe any partners [to Allah], what they used to do would not avail them." {89} "They are the ones whom We gave the Book, the judgement and prophethood. So if these disbelieve in them, We have certainly entrusted them to a people who will never disbelieve in them." {90} "They are the ones whom Allah has guided. So follow their guidance. Say, 'I do not ask you any recompense for it. It is just an admonition for all the nations.'" Surah Al-Furqan: {35} "Certainly We gave Musa the Book and We made Harun, his brother, accompany him as a minister." {36} "Then We said, 'Let the two of you go to the people who have denied Our signs.' Then We destroyed them utterly." Surah Al-Qasas: {34} "Harun, my brother —he is more eloquent than me in speech. So send him with me as a helper to confirm me, for I fear that they will impugn me.'" {35} "He said, 'We will strengthen your arm by means of your brother, and invest both of you with such authority that they will not touch you. With the help of Our signs, you two, and those who follow the two of you, shall be the victors.'" Closing statement: Sunnis who see these signs from the Quran and Sunnah and continue to reject Islam in favor of Sunni'ism can no longer be considered Muslims (imo). There are certain requirements for being a Muslim, and among them are believing in and following the Quran 100% and obeying the Prophet of Allah (pbuh), neither of which Sunnis do. Sunnis have created and follow deviations in Islam, and worse than that is that they accuse Islam of deviations and fabricate lies against Allah's perfected religion. These issues are extremely serious and need to be confronted at every opportunity. I always see people who post here saying 'omg don't say that! You'll hurt the Sunnis feelings!' Islam is more important than their ego. The Quran says to talk in a way that is best, but never says to compromise the truth in doing so. Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) confronted the Sunnis deviations and wrongdoing from the very moment it started and called them munafiqun. People mistake his patience for passiveness. Nahj al-Balagha, Sermon 6: "By Allah I shall not be like the badger, which feigns sleep on continuous (sound of) stone-throwing till he who is in search of it finds it or he who is on the look out for it overpowers it. Rather, I shall ever strike the deviators from truth with the help of those who advance towards it, and the sinners and doubters with the help of those who listen to me and obey, till my day (of death) comes. By Allah I have been continually deprived of my right from the day the Prophet died till today." Nahj al-Balagha, Sermon 7: "About the hypocrites (munafiqun) 'They have made Satan the master of their affairs, and he has taken them as partners. He has laid eggs and hatched them in their bosoms. He creeps and crawls in their laps. He sees through their eyes, and speaks with their tongues. In this way he has led them to sinfulness and adorned for them foul things like the action of one whom Satan has made partner in his domain and speaks untruth through his tongue.' Footnotes by translator: Amir al-mu'minin says about the hypocrites (i.e. those who opposed him before and during his Caliphate) that they are partners in action of Satan and his helpers and supporters. He too has befriended them so much that he has made his abode with them, resides on their bosoms, lays eggs and hatches young one from them there, while these young ones jump and play in their laps without demur. He means that Satanic evil ideas take birth in their bosoms and grow and thrive there. There is no restrain on them, nor restriction of any kind. He has so permeated in their blood and mingled in their spirit that both have become completely unified. Now eyes are theirs but sight is his, the tongue is theirs but the words are his, as the Prophet (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) had said, "Verily, Satan permeates the progeny of Adam like blood." That is, just as the circulation of blood does not stop, in the same way the quick succession of Satan's evil ideas know no break and he draws man towards evil in sleep and wakefulness, and in every posture, rising or sitting. He so paints them with his dye that their word and action reflect an exact portrait of his word and action. Those whose bosoms shine with the effulgence of faith prevent such evil ideas but some are already ready to welcome those evils and these are the persons who under the garb of Islam are ever after advancement of heresy." Surah Al-Imran, Ayah 19-20: {19} "Indeed, with Allah religion is Islam, and those who were given the Book did not differ except after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves. And whoever defies Allah’s signs [should know that] Allah is swift at reckoning." {20} "So if they argue with you, say, ‘I have submitted my will to Allah, and [so has] he who follows me.’ And say to those who were given the Book and the unlearned ones, ‘Do you submit?’ If they submit, they will certainly be guided; but if they turn away, then your duty is only to communicate; and Allah sees best the servants." Surah Ghafir (Surah Al-Mu'min), Ayah 4: "No one disputes the signs of Allah except the faithless. So do not be misled by their bustle in the towns." Surah Al-Imran, Ayah 4: "Then those who reject Faith in the Signs of Allah will suffer the severest penalty, and Allah is Exalted in Might, Lord of Retributions." Surah Al-Ma'ida, Ayah 54: "O you who have faith! Should any of you desert his religion, Allah will soon bring a people whom He loves and who love Him, [who will be] humble towards the faithful, stern towards the faithless, waging jihad in the way of Allah, not fearing the blame of any blamer. That is Allah’s grace which He grants to whomever He wishes, and Allah is all-bounteous, all-knowing." Surah Al-Hajj: {54} "That those who have been given knowledge may know that it is the truth from your Lord, and so they may have faith in it, and their hearts may be humbled before Him. Indeed Allah guides those who have faith to a straight path." {55} "Those who are faithless persist in their doubt about it, until the Hour overtakes them suddenly, or they are overtaken by the punishment of an inauspicious day." {56} "On that day all sovereignty will belong to Allah: He will judge between them. Then those who have faith and do righteous deeds will be in gardens of bliss," {57} "and those who are faithless and who deny Our signs —for such there will be a humiliating punishment."
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  3. They're like Christians and Jews who try to turn people away from Islam because they know it exposes their lies, contradictions and their hypocrisy. They are the enemies of Islam and will do everything in their power to turn people away from true Islam.
  4. And? I'm well aware that there are non-retarded Sunnis (which is what the majority of the Syrian people are), that doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of them are unbelievably stupid and extreemly gullible. Yes, they blame Bashar Al-Assad for the sun going down, they blame Bashar Al-Assad when it doesn't rain, they blame Bashar Al-Assad if there are cockroaches in their kitchen, they blame Bashar Al-Assad if their mother ruins their dinner. They pretty much blame Bashar Al-Assad for everything, which is funny because almost none of them are Syrian. The FSA murdering scores of children, massacring innocent people and fighting for the interests of America and Isreal they have no problem with though. That's the magic of Sunnism.
  5. Shia is simply Islam without any bidah/deviations, that's all. In short, Shia simply means a follower of true Islam. Sects are created by man, such as Sunnism, Sufism, Ismailism, etc.
  6. I'm certain they can't since he's posted this all over the place, including several Sunni forums, and no one has been able to reply.
  7. Why not just do it again? What do you have to lose?
  8. Thanks for sharing. Sunnis are the dumbest people on the planet. I've literally seen videos on Youtube blaming Bashar Al-Assad for the sun going down and Sunnis believe all this cr*p.
  9. The Quran explicitly says not to break off into sects.
  10. There's really no point in trying to prove anything to Sunnis. The Quran says the munafiqun are the lowest of people in this world and the overwhelming majority of them will never stop continuing in their kufr and bidah.
  11. Do you mean those chadors with sleeves?
  12. Shia is not a sect, Shia IS true Islam (i.e. Islam without any deviations/bidah), the same Islam the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) followed. The word 'Shia' literally means 'follower', a Shia is simply a follower of true Islam. Sunni, Sufis, Ismailis, etc. all created sects on their own.
  13. That's the least of Umar's bidah. The kaffir changed everything from prayer to marriage.
  14. I noticed this as well. Hopefully they will fix it soon.
  15. lol The entire Sunni religion is based on bidah, that's why they try and accuse Shia to give their own qualities to others. Everything from the way they pray to wudhu etc. is all bidah.
  16. Uhh, what are you talking about? You said "The Compassion of the Syrians Clashes with the Compassion of the Salafis. Apparently Salafis spend time with deformed children while the Syrians believe that its ok to preserve the bodyparts of Progeny. Salafis think bodyparts of Progeny should be buried" and I refuted that with the "compassion" of the FSA and spending time with children being utter B.S. This isn't a war of two compassions, it's about Western/Israeli-backed terrorists trying to take over Palestine-supporting Syria and the FSA using tons of propaganda to bring people over to their side.
  17. Really, because I've never actually seen him cause trouble. All I've seen from him are contributive posts. I may just be missing the troll posts though.
  18. I may be mistaken, but I thought not all Prophets (as) were Masoom? Anyway here is one about Ahl al-Bayt: Surah al-Ahzab, Ayah 33: "...Verily, Allah has decreed to remove fault from you, O' Ahlul Bayt, and sanctify you in a perfect way."
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