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Truth1234

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  1. I'm a Muslim and in my religion, we don't post descriptions of our mothers. But you can go ahead and post a description of your mother. I'm waiting.
  2. Good response sister. The response of a true lover of Ahl Al-Bait. As for that character who calls himself a "True Sunni", the only sunna he follows is the sunna of Shaytaan. He has nothing to do with Ahl Al-Bait and Ahl Al-Bait have nothing to do with him.
  3. Ibn Abdel Barr says in his book Al-Istee'aab Fi Ma'arifa Al-Ashaab that "there is much disagreement concerning Qutaila": ÝÇÍÊÌ ÚãÑ Úóáóì ÃÈí ÈßÑ ÈÃäåÇ áíÓÊ ãä ÃÒæÇÌ ÇáäøóÈöíø Õóáøóì Çááøóåõ Úóáóíúåö æóÓóáøóãó ÈÇÑÊÏÇÏåÇ ¡ æáã ÊáÏ áÚßÑãÉ Èúä ÃÈí Ìåá ¡ æÝíåÇ ÇÎÊáÇÝ ßËíÑ ÌÏðÇ "Umar protested against Abu Bakr in that she (Qutaila) was not one of the wives of the Prophet (SAWS) due to her becoming an apostate. She didn't give birth from 'Ikrama ibn Abi Jahl. There is very much disagreement concerning her (Qutaila)" From Al-Istee'aab Fi Ma'arifa Al-Ashaab.
  4. I've posted above what was said about Qutaila. I don't know why you are pretending to know something definitive - as if you were there.
  5. You all keep talking about being commanded to follow Ahl Al-Bait, but you never say what you mean by "follow them". Follow them how? And how can you say that Ali (RAA) was the Caliph after the Prophet (SAWS) when Ali (RAA) gave bay'a to Abu Bakr (RAA). How is that possible? And how have you excluded some Ahl Al-Bait from Ahl Al-Bait just to fit you own desires? And who from Ahl Al-Bait are you following now and what specifically are you doing that makes you consider yourself following Ahl Al-Bait? And do you think Ali (RAA) was wrong for giving bay'a to Abu Bakr?
  6. Ñæì ÏÇæÏ Èä ÃÈí åäÏ ¡ Úä ÚßÑãÉ ¡ Úä ÇÈä ÚÈÇÓ Ãä ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ÊÒæÌ ÞÊíáÉ ÃÎÊ ÇáÃÔÚË Èä ÞíÓ ¡ ÝãÇÊ ÞÈá Ãä íÎÈÑåÇ ¡ ÝÈÑÃåÇ Çááå ãäå Daud ibn Abi Hind relates from 'Ikrama who relates from Ibn Abbas that the Prophet (SAWS) married Qutaila the sister of Al-Ash'ath ibn Qais and he (the Prophet (SAWS)) died before he informed her. So Allah released her from him. æÞÇá ÅÈÑÇåíã Èä ÇáÝÖá : ÍÏËäÇ ÍãÇÏ Èä ÓáãÉ ¡ Úä ÏÇæÏ Èä ÃÈí åäÏ ¡ Úä ÇáÔÚÈí Ãä ÚßÑãÉ Èä ÃÈí Ìåá ÊÒæÌ ÞÊíáÉ ÈäÊ ÞíÓ ¡ ÝÃÑÇÏ ÃÈæ ÈßÑ Ãä íÖÑÈ ÚäÞå ¡ ÝÞÇá áå ÚãÑ : Åä ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã áã íÚÑÖ áåÇ æáã íÏÎá ÈåÇ ¡ æÇÑÊÏÊ ãÚ ÃÎíåÇ ÝÈÑÆÊ ãä Çááå æÑÓæáå ¡ Ýáã íÒá Èå ÍÊì ßÝ Úäå Ibrahim ibn Al-Fadl said that Hammad ibn Salama told them on the authority of Daud ibn Abi Hind who reported on the authority of Al-Sha'abi that 'Ikrama ibn Abi Jahl married Qutaiba bint Qais and Abu Bakr (RAA) wanted to execute him and Umar (RAA) said that the Messenger of Allah (SAWS) didn't enter upon her and that she became an apostate like her brother, so she was separated from Allah and His Messenger (SAWS). æÞÇá åÔÇã Èä ÇáßáÈí ¡ Úä ÃÈíå ¡ Úä ÃÈí ÕÇáÍ ¡ Úä ÇÈä ÚÈÇÓ ÞÇá : áãÇ ÇÓÊÚÇÐÊ ÃÓãÇÁ ÈäÊ ÇáäÚãÇä ãä ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ÎÑÌ ãÛÖÈÇ ¡ ÝÞÇá áå ÇáÃÔÚË Èä ÞíÓ : áÇ íÓæÁß Çááå íÇ ÑÓæá Çááå ¡ ÃáÇ ÃÒæÌß ãä áíÓ ÏæäåÇ Ýí ÇáÌãÇá æÇáÍÓÈ ¿ ÝÞÇá : " ãä " ¿ ÞÇá : ÃÎÊí ÞÊíáÉ . ÞÇá : " ÞÏ ÊÒæÌÊåÇ " ¡ ÝÇäÕÑÝ ÇáÃÔÚË Åáì ÍÖÑãæÊ Ëã ÍãáåÇ ¡ ÝÈáÛå æÝÇÉ ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ¡ ÝÑÏåÇ æÇÑÊÏÊ ãÚå . Ibn Abbas narrated: "When Asma´ Bint al-Nu`man took refuge with Allah from the Prophet (SAWS), he went out and his face showed an immense anger. Al-Ash`ath said to him, 'Let this not bother you, Messenger of Allah. Shall I give in marriage one that is more beautiful and honourable?' He asked, 'Who?' He replied, 'My sister Qutaila.' He said, 'I marry her.' So al-Ash`ath left for Hadramawt and carried her. And when he had left Yemen, he learned that the Prophet (SAWS) died, so he took her back to his country and she became an apostate along with him (Ash'ath)." æÃãÇ ÇáæÇÞÏí ÝÑæì Úä ÇÈä ÃÈí ÇáÒäÇÏ ¡ Úä åÔÇã ¡ Úä ÃÈíå ¡ Ãä ÇáæáíÏ Èä ÚÈÏ Çáãáß ßÊÈ Åáíå íÓÃáå : åá ÊÒæÌ ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ÞÊíáÉ ÃÎÊ ÇáÃÔÚË ¿ ÝÞÇá : ãÇ ÊÒæÌåÇ ÞØ ¡ æáÇ ÊÒæÌ ßäÏíÉ ÅáÇ ÃÎÊ Èäí ÇáÌæä As for Al-Waaqidi, he related from Ibn Abi Zinaad who related from Hisham who related from his father that Al-Walid ibn Abdel Malik wrote to him asking: "Did the Prophet (SAWS) marry Qutaila the sister of Al-Ash'ath?" And he said: "He didn't marry her at all. And he didn't marry anyone from the tribe of Kinda except the sister of Bani Al-Jawn."
  7. Wow! You Shiites have some really strange beliefs. áÇ Íæá æ áÇ ÞæÉ ÅáÇ ÈÇááå
  8. Show me these "authentic narrations".
  9. Whose orders and what are these orders? In this aya below, the Prophet (SAWS) was told not to curse the mushrikeen. What makes you think you can curse the Companions of the Prophet (SAWS): Not for you, [O Muhammad, but for Allah ], is the decision whether He should [cut them down] or forgive them or punish them, for indeed, they are wrongdoers. The report narrated by al-Bukhaari (4070) from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar, that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), when he raised his head from rukoo’ in the final rak’ah of Fajr prayer and said: “O Allaah, curse So and so, and So and so, and So and so,” after he had said, “Sami’a Allaahu li man hamdih, Rabbana wa laka’l-hamd.” Then Allaah revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning): “Not for you (O Muhammad, but for Allaah) is the decision; whether He turns in mercy to (pardons) them or punishes them; verily, they are the Zaalimoon (polytheists, disobedients and wrongdoers)” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:128] Show me where you were praised in the Quran. What have you done for Islam? If it weren't for those people that you choose to curse, you wouldn't even be calling yourself a Muslim. I've spoken to you about hadith Al-Thaqalain and what I said is clear.
  10. What are you talking about? You aren't making any sense. If it's not about governmental power, what do you Shiites want exactly? In one sentence you claim that there are "hadiths which allow cursing" and in another sentence you say Shia Islam isn't about cursing. You aren't making sense. Concerning what you said about Abu Bakr, Umar, and Muawia, why do you feel that you are in a position to sit back and judge them of all people. Don't you realize that they were Companions of the Prophet (SAWS) and better than you? Were Abu Bakr and Umar Muhajireen or not? What did Allah say about the Muhajireen? Did they fight in the Battle of Badr or not? What did the Prophet (SAWS) say about those who fought in the Battle of Badr? Were they amongst those who pledged allegiance to the Prophet (SAWS) under the tree? What did Allah and His Prophet (SAWS) say about those who pledged allegiance under the tree? Muawia was a Companion of the Prophet (SAWS) and he accepted Islam after the Victory (Fath Mecca). What did Allah say about those who accepted Islam after the Victory? Wasn't Muawia (RAA) the Prophet's scribe and wrote down the revelations that came down to the Prophet (SAWS)? Didn't Muawia lead the naval expedition against Cyprus? What did the Prophet (SAWS) say about the army that was going to do this?
  11. I don't know who you are calling Shia, but if you mean Ahl Al-Bait, the Caliphs from Ahl Al-Bait were Ali (RAA) and Al-Hasan (RAA). They are three from amongst the twelve. Who was given the bay'aa by the Muslims? Whoever was given the bay'aa was the Caliph. And didn't Ali (RAA) give bay'aa to Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman? I've said what I have to say about hadith al-Thaqalain. Again. The hadith Al-Thaqalain says that the Prophet (SAWS) said: æÃäÇ ÊÇÑß Ýíßã ÇáËÞáíä ÃæáåãÇ ßÊÇÈ Çááå Ýíå ÇáåÏì æÇáäæÑ ÝÎÐæÇ ÈßÊÇÈ Çááå æÃÓÊãÓßæÇ Èå , ÞÇá ÒíÏ : ÝÍË Úáì ßÊÇÈ Çááå æÑÛÈ Ýíå Ëã ÞÇá : æÃåá ÈíÊí ÃÐßÑßã Çááå Ýí Ãåá ÈíÊí ÃÐßÑßã Çááå Ýí Ãåá ÈíÊí ÃÐßÑßã Çááå Ýí Ãåá ÈíÊí “I am going to leave with you two heavy burdens. The first of them is the Book of Allah: in it is the true guidance and the light. Therefore, hold fast to it.” Then he (the Prophet) prompted and induced the Muslims to adhere to the Book of God. Then he said: “And my household. I remind you of Allah in matters relating to my household. I remind you of Allah in matters relating to my household. I remind you of Allah in matters relating to my household.” There is no command in this hadith to follow the Ahl Al-Bait. There is a command to treat them well. Another hadith says something similar about the Copts of Egypt. That doesn't mean that we were commanded to follow the Copts of Egypt. The hadith says: Çááå Çááå Ýí Ãåá ÇáÐãÉ ¡ Ãåá ÇáãÏÑÉ ÇáÓæÏÇÁ ÇáÓÍã ÇáÌÚÇÏ ÝÅä áåã äÓÈÇ æÕåÑÇ "Fear Allah - Fear Allah concerning the black-skinned, kinky-haired People of the Black Soil (People of Kemet) who are under your protection! Verily they are your relatives."
  12. In one sentence you said that you don't curse the Companions and in another sentence you cursed Muawia (RAA). What is that? And what is your opinion about Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman (RAA)?
  13. All this says is that there will be 12 Caliphs and that all of them will be from Quraish. No one denies this. What do you mean? I don't understand why you are mentioning these hadiths because: 1.) Nowhere does it say in the hadiths that the Caliphs have to be from Ahl Al-Bait. The hadiths say that they are from Quraish. And Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman (RAA) were all from Quraish. 2.) None of those you Shiites call Imams have ever been Caliphs except Ali (RAA) and Al-Hasan (RAA).
  14. How can I prove a person wrong when he/she doesn't accept sound hadiths? How can I prove a person wrong when what he/she considers sound, I consider unsound. How can I prove a person wrong when he/she doesn't accept the very words that I give him/her from one of his/her imams???
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