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Blacknight

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  1. Bradfordistan? Isn't that what the racist say about Bradford? Because of our strong Pakistani community?
  2. i make now (plus by the help of many more hadiths over this topic) a list of those who out of whole muslim community went out to represent the truthfulness of Islam. And my note book page appears like this 1- Muhammad s.a.w 2-Ali a.s 3- Fatima s.a 4- Hassan a.s 5- Hussain a.s CONCLUSION STEP-5 HMMM so it means in whole Muslim ummah of that time, there was non more truthful than these people. So i should rather stick to these people when it is them vs others. Just a thought one simple verse: If you help him (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) not (it does not matter), for Allah did indeed help him when the disbelievers drove him out, the second of the two; when they were in the cave, he (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said to his companion : “Be not sad (or afraid), surely Allah is with us.” Then Allah sent down His sakinah (calmness, tranquillity, peace) upon him, and strengthened him with forces (angels) which you saw not, and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowermost, while the Word of Allah that became the uppermost; and Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. ( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #40) We all know who was the SECOND of the TWO And also here is another verse; "Those who spent and fought before the victory are not upon a level (with the rest of you)." (57:10) We all know how much wealth Abu Bakr siddique ra spent ( ALL OF IT) Jazakhallah
  3. This reader judges in your favour brother because mr yam HAS TO PROVE HIS THEORY of who the hypocrites were?!? Quran doesn't mention who the disbelievers were...........but yam does........so am waiting for yam to get PROOF from Quran.........instead of going around in a circular argument the ONUS is on yam to prove otherwise he is lying and doing tahreef of Quran ASTAGHFIRULLAH
  4. Didn't Hazrath Abbas ra also say same thing to Ali ra too? From the same SAHIH Hadith?
  5. I guess this should be sufficient http://twelvershia.net/2013/08/15/al-salatu-khayrun-min-al-nawm-part-1/
  6. Asalam alaikum "I thought I will butt in cos this is going on and in and on just how ameen likes it lol And the cheesy lil pats on each other's backs even if both you cannot even find a single verse in Quran you may as we'll smack yourselfs cos you still haven't come near to the answer,talk about self loathing lol From a neautral stand this is how the people reading it see it The question raised by br justthetruth IS THEIR PRECISE VERSE ON IMMAMATE? It is so simple and basic look at the question he is not asking for a Hadith or an explanation,NO, just a simple statement from the supreme almighty subhanawatallah And all the poor guy is getting is............hadiths and explanations?? So originally the question still stands!! Is their a PRECISE VERSE in Quran?? For over 1400 hundered years have passed.....and.....still no verse?!?!? To be honest as a neutral observer forget ameen he is like a broken record going round and round with no serious point but gets trapped himself then he cannot explain .........like fee shayin. As for br islamhistory ....well .....I must admit your answer to that question.......HAS STILL NOT BEEN ANSWERED!!! All you are doing is posting IRRELEVANT hadiths and explanations, that is not the question!! The question ISNT 'is there any hadiths or explanation of immamate' Since the questioned was asked.......am sorry but NO ONE has answered br justthetruth All that is happening now is brothers ameen and islamhistory are just coming up with qiyas and irrelevant hadiths and self explanations MAYBE trying to avoid the QUESTION? The answer to the question is a simple YES OR NO If it would have been NO.........then we could move on but if you say YES like you are doing then........PROVE IT FROM QURAN .......A PRECISE VERSE!!!! YOU SAY IT........SO PROVE IT!!! What kind of shia site is this?? Cannot even prove immamate from Quran Sorry for the interruption but I had to speak my mind A NEAUTRAL MIND!!!! Carry on brothers.........
  7. lol my posts have been banned i wonder why??? mmmm

  8. oops sorry brother i cannot give perfect answers and believe you me no one can give you perfect answer either not even YOU YOURSELF as for our proofs from hadiths , is a dif mahdi compared to shia ! brother like saima and me know THAT BELIEF IN IMAM MAHDI AS ISNT USOOL E DEEN so if she doesnt believ and i do it doesnt matter Allah subhanawatallah will not judge us for that , for one we have NEVER seen him and billions who have passed away have niether i may not see him you may not see him before we die, and as for A NEW MUSLIM lol brother i repeat again its not usool e deen unlike yourself brother explaining invisible concept of imamate through quran now that is difficult as can be seen with your previous conversations,if you cannot explain it to another muslim well........the new muslim is just gonna be confused
  9. gayba and immamate is tradtion of nabi sallalahualaihewasalam? i never knew, and as for REGARDLESS if its in quran or not? then where do you take your religion from? hadiths?
  10. no brother he is not mentioned in quran either, i believe in him through sayings of nabi sallahualaihewasalam
  11. you know and i know there is none just like NO VERSES for imam mahdi as , either !!!
  12. Here we go again ............ This is Shia view of kaab alahbar it's on wiki!! Umar and a number of prominent companions had a very positive attitude towards Kaab. However the most knowledgable and the most farsighted among them, namely, Imam Ali ( as ) discredited Kaab. Kaab did not dare to come close to Imam Ali ( as ), despite the fact that the Imam was in Medina for the duration of Kaab's stay. It is reported that Imam Ali ( as ) said about Kaab : Certainly he is a professional liar![2] So you believe a liar? According to shia As for the title farukh..... Umar (Raziallah Anho) gets the title of "Al-Faruq" Conversion of Hadrat Umar (Raziallah Anho) strengthened Islam. Hitherto, Muslims had lived in constant fear of disbelievers, and most of them were concealing their faith. The Muslims were now able to offer their Salat publicly. When Hadrat Umar (Raziallah Anho) became a Muslim he declared his faith openly before the Quraish Chiefs. Though they stared at him but could not do any harm to him. Then he requested the Holy Prophet (Sal Allaho Alehe Wassallam) to offer Salat in the Ka'bah. On getting the consent of the Holy Prophet (Sal Allaho Alehe Wassallam), Hadrat Umar led a party of the Muslims to that place. Hadrat Hamzah, who had accepted Islam a few days before Umar (Raziallah Anho) carried another party of the Muslims to Ka'bah. When all the Muslims gathered in the Ka'bah they offered their Salat in congregation. The Holy Prophet (Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa Sallam) led this first public Salat in the history of Islam. For this courageous and bold action of Hadrat Umar (R.A) the Holy Prophet (Sal Allaho Alehe Wassallam) gave him the title of "al-Faruq" i.e., the one who makes a distinction between the "Right" (Haqq) and the "Wrong" (Batil). So the prophet sallalahualaihewasalam gave him the title
  13. AWWWWWW REACHED THE END OF YOUR TETHER???? L O L OK here is son e proof from SAHIH BUKHARI on dajjal written 1400 years ago Amir b. Sharahil Sha'bi Sha'b Hamdan reported that he asked Fatima, daughter of Qais and sister of ad-Dahhak b. Qais and she was the first amongst the emigrant women: Narrate to me a hadith which you had heard directly from Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) and there is no extra link in between them. She said: Very well, if you like, I am prepared to do that, and he said to her: Well, do It and narrate that to me. She said: I married the son of Mughira and he was a chosen young man of Quraish at that time, but he fell as a martyr in the first Jihad (fighting) on the side of Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam). When I became a widow, 'Abd al-Rahman b. Auf, one amongst the group of the Companions of Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam), sent me the proposal of marriage. Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) also sent me such a message for his freed slave Usama b. Zaid. And it had been conveyed to me that Allaah's Messenger (way sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) had said (about Usama): He who loves me should also love Usima. When Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) talked to me (about this matter), I said: My affairs are in your hand. You may marry me to anyone whom you like. He said: You better shift now to the house of Umm Sharik, and Umm Sharik was a rich lady from amongst the Anqir. She spent generously for the cause of Allaah and entertained guests very hospitably. I said: Well, I will do as you like. He said: Do not do that for Umm Sharik is a woman who is very frequently vizited by guests and I do not like that your head may be uncovered or the cloth may be removed from your shank and the strangers may catch sight of them which you abhor. You better shift to the house of your cousin 'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. Umm Maktum and he is a person of the Bani Fihr branch of the Quraish, and he belonged to that tribe (to which Fatima) belonged. So I shifted to that house, and when my period of waiting was over, I heard the voice of an announcer making an announcement that the prayer would be observed in the mosque (where) congregational prayer (is observed). So I set out towards that mosque and observed prayer along with Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) and I was in the row of the women which was near the row of men. When Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) had finished his prayer, he sat on the pulpit smiling and said: Every worshipper should keep sitting at his place. He then said: Do you know why I had asked you to assemble? They said: Allaah and His Messenger know best. He said: By Allaah. I have not made you assemble for exhortation or for a warning, but I have detained you here, for Tamim Dari, a Christian, who came and accepted Islam, told me something, which agrees with what I was-telling, yuu about the Dajjal. He narrated to me that he had sailed in a ship along with thirty men of Bani Lakhm and Bani Judham and had been tossed by waves in the ocean for a month. Then these (waves) took them (near) the land within the ocean (island) at the time of sunset. They sat in a small side-boat and entered that Island. There was a beast with long thick hair (and because of these) they could not distinguish his face from his back. They said: Woe to you, who can you be? Thereupon it said: I am al-Jassasa. They said: What is al-Jassasa? And it said: O people, go to this person in the monastery as he is very much eager to know about you. He (the narrator) said: When it named a person for us we were afraid of it lest it should be a Devil. Then we hurriedly went on till we came to that monastery and found a well-built person there with his hands tied to his neck and having iron shackles between his two legs up to the ankles. We said: Woe be upon thee, who are you? And he said: You would soon come to know about me. but tell me who are you. We said: We are people from Arabia and we embarked upon a boat but the sea-waves had been driving us for one month and they brought as near this island. We got Into the side-boats and entered this island and here a beast met us with profusely thick hair and because of the thickness of his hair his face could not be distinguished from his back. We said: Woe be to thee, who are you? It said: I am al- Jassasa. We said: What is al-Jassasa? And it said: You go to this very person in the monastery for he is eagerly waiting for you to know about you. So we came to you in hot haste fearing that that might be the Devil. He (that chained person) said: Tell me about the date-palm trees of Baisan. We &aid: About what aspect of theirs do you seek information? He said: I ask you whether these trees bear fruit or not. We said: Yes Thereupon he said: I think these would not bear fruits. He said: Inform me about the lake of Tabariyya? We said: Which aspect of it do you want to know? He said: Is there water in it? They said: There is abundance of water in it. Thereupon he said: I think it would soon become dry. He again said: Inform me about the spring of Zughar. They said: Which aspect of it you want to know? He (the chained person) said: Is there water in it and does it irrigate (the land)? We said to him: Yes, there is abundance of water in it and the inhabitants (of Medina) irrigate (land) with the help of it, He said: Inform me about the unlettered Prophet; what has he done? We said: He has come out from Mecca and has settled In Yathrib (Medina). He said: Do the Arabs fight against him? We said: Yes. He said: How did he deal with him? We informed him that he had overcome those in his neighbourhood and they had submitted themselves before him. Thereupon he said to us: Had it actually happened? We said: Yes. Thereupon he said: If it is so that is better for them that they should show obedience to him. I am going to tell you about. myself and I am Dajjal and would be soon permitted to get out and so I shall get out and travel in the land, and will not spare any town where I would not stay for forty nights except Mecca and Medina as these two (places) are prohibited (areas) for me and I would not make an attempt to enter any one of these two. An angel with a sword in his hand would confront me and would bar my way and there would be angels to guard every passage leading to it; then Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) striking the pulpit with the help of the end of his staff said: This implies Taiba meaning Medina. Have I not, told you an account (of the Dajjal) like this? 'The people said: Yes, and this account narrated by Tamim Dari was liked by me for it corroborates the account which I gave to you in regard to him (Dajjal) at Medina and Mecca. Behold he (Dajjal) is in the Syrian sea (Mediterranian) or the Yemen sea (Arabian sea). Nay, on the contrary, he As In the east, he is in the east, he is in the east, and he pointed with his hand towards the east. I (Fatima bint Qais) said: I preserved It In my mind (this narration from Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam). No. 7029 Al-Sha'bi reported: We visited Fatima b. Qais and she served us fresh dates which are called rutab and she also served us barley. I asked her about that woman in whose case three divorces had been pronounced as to how much time she should count as the waiting period. She said: My husband pronounced three divorces in my case and Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) permitted me to spend any waiting period in my family. (It was during this period) that announcement was made for the people to observe prayer in the bigger Mosque. I went there along with people and I was in the front row meant for women and it was adjacent to the last row of men and I heard Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) deliver sermon sitting on the pulpit. He said: The cousin of Tamim (Dari) sailed in the ocean. The rest of the hadith is the same but with this addition:" (I see) as if I am looking to Allaah's Prophet (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) pointing his rod towards the land (and saying): It is Taiba, i. e. Medina." No. 7030 Tamim Dari came to Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) and informed Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) that he sailed in an ocean and his ship lost direction and thus landed at an island. They moved about in that land in search of water. There they saw a person who had been pulling his hair. The rest of the hadith is the same. And he (Dajjal) said: If I were to be permitted to set out I would have covered all the lands except Taiba. Then Allaah's Messerger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) brought (Tamim Dari) before the public and he narrated to them and said: That is Taiba and that is the Dajjal. No. 7031 Fatima b. Qais reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) sat on the pulpit and said: O people, Tamim Dari has reported to me that some persons of his tribe sailed in the ocean in a boat and it capsised and then some of them travelled on one of the planks of the boat and they went to an island in the ocean. The rest of the hadith is the same. No. 7032 Anas b. Malik reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: There will be no land which would not be covered by the Dajjal but Mecca and Medina, and there would no passage out of the passages leading to them which would not be guarded by angels arranged in rows. Then he (the Dajjal) would appear in a barren place adjacent to Medina and it would rock three times that every unbeliever and hypocrite would get out of it towards him. No. 7033 This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Anas that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said this but with this addition that (the Dajjal would come) and pitch his tent in the waste-land of Juruf and thus there would come out of (the city) every hypocrite, man and woman. Now on to Eesa alaihe salaam FROM QURANIC EVIDENCE BECAUSE HE IS THE PROPHET OF Allah SUBHANAWATALLAH Let's look at verse 4:156-159 "That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in boast): 'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.' But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjunction to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them Let us look at verse 3:55 "Behold! Allah said: O Jesus! I will take thee And raise thee to Myself And clear thee (of the falsehoods) Of those who blaspheme; I will make those Who follow thee superior To those who reject faith, To the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, And I will judge Between you of the matters wherein ye dispute." Obviously you get my gist , there are many more!! WHERE IS IMAM MAHDI AS GAHYBA IN.........QURAN? WHERE IS IMAM MAHDI MENTIONED?CLEAR LIKE HOW EESA ALAIHE SALAM WAS RAISED UP? GIVE US EVIDENCE FROM SAHIH BUKHARI TOO SO NOW I TURN IT AROUND TO YOU MR IGNORANTKNOWLEDGE I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR TWO QUESTIONS AND WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO THE SAME FROM QURAN AND OUR HADITH LETS SEE WHO'S LOGIC IS SOUND BY PROOFS AND EVIDENCES (mine by using Quran) AND WHO'S IS .............,NOT(yours on hearsay) I AM WAITING OTHERWISE ITS GONNA BE ANOTHER LOL FROM ME!!!! MR IGNORANTLOGIC.......ANSWER AND PLEEEEEESE DON'T GIVE ME TAFSEERS JUST CLEAR VERSES FROM QURAN THANKS BROTHER I AM EAGERLY WAITING
  14. Yep sweet dreams kid too now that you have answered like the LION you are roaring on about sujoods and what not but..........still stook trying to explain IMAMATE by using words of bow down and prostrate and how it comes into your vicabulary Lol well done So after all that IMMAMATE is still something UNKNOWN in Quran as I still believe and you still cannot prove
  15. I believe imam Mahdi as will be born in end times So you just wasted your time and mine( I could be in bed by now asleep )by posting all the stuff about him Hence.....again.......lol......and I ain't trapped......brother far from it I am answering freely and logically
  16. Lol brother you want quranic proof of......hazrath abu bakr radhyiallahuans name And you want quranic proofs of...,,,,bow down and prostrate as same? But after ALL THESE DAYS AND POSTS YOU STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN ME PROOF OF IMMAMATE IN QURAN???? Now that's ILLOGICAL this is what the typical response generates into , if you cannot answer then counter question Round around we go Lol Good night brother
  17. Yep I get many a information thanks to that site it's a great site it's brilliant for knocking you back down a few steps!! Anyway it's words my brother sujood , bow down ,prostrate all meaning the SAME don't look for HIDDEN meanings or SUMMERT to acknowledge with your false logic it's exactly what it is.....false logic false ideas and false meanings hence you cannot equate bowing with prayer cos your LOGICS messed up!!
  18. Lol brother in your mind you can believe ANYTHING let's put it in perspective shall we?? ALI radhyiallahuans imamate according to this [5:55] Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the Believers – those who establish regular prayers and pay charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship). ????? Now the two in the cave Quran states: If you will not aid him, Allah certainly aided him when those who disbelieved expelled him, he being the second of the two, when they were both in the cave, when he said to his companion: Grieve not, surely Allah is with us. So Allah sent down His tranquility upon him and strengthened him with hosts which you did not see, and made lowest the word of those who disbelieved; and the word of Allah, that is the highest; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.(9:40) Do you see how EASY it is without a tafseer or anything look at the two above verses The first is about Ali radhyiallahuan? Whers the beggar? I don't think so until you start adding your own meanings and stories The second you don't need ANY TAFSEERS it's clearly stated by Allah subhanawatallah THE TWO IN THE CAVE Both shia and Sunni know this story and its being told by the Almighty Himself It's that EASY my brother simple Quran is simple not hard so you can read and learn off it EVERYDAY!!!
  19. Here we go with TAFSEERS and the BIG LIST you gave me thanks I see you like to copy paste so I will do same 1. Narrated by Ath-Thabaraniy in Al-Ausath no. 6232 from hadits ‘Ammaar (bin Yaasir). In it exist a narrator called Khaalid bin Yaziid Al-‘Umariy, he is a liar.Ibnu Ma’in said : “Liar”. Abu Haatim said : “Liar, his hadith is abandoned” (kadzdzaab, dzaahibul-hadiits)” [Al-Jarh wat-Ta’diil 3/360 and Al-Miizaan 1/646 – via Majma’ul-Bahrain 1/279 & 6/20 by Al-Haitsami]. Ishaq bin ‘Abdillah bin Muhammad bin ‘Aliy bin Husain, not found his biography. Al-Hasan bin Zaid bin Al-Hasan bin ‘Aliy bin Abi Thaalib Abu Muhammad, he is trustworthy but sometimes err (shaduuq, yahimu) – as mention in At-Taqrib. 2. Narrated by Al-Wahidiy (no. 397), from Muhammad bin Marwaan, from Muhammad bin Saaib, from Abu Shaalih, from Ibnu ‘Abbaas with marfu’. But the sanad is not shahih at all. Muhammad bin Marwaan, he is As-Suddiy Ash-Shaghiir, his hadith is abandoned, accuse of lying (matruk, muttaham bil-kidzb). Ibnu Saaib, he is Al-Kalbiy, known as liar. Please refer to Al-Miizaan. Abu Shaalih is Baadzaam; weak narrator.Ibnu Hibban said he did not hear hadith from Ibnu ‘Abbas [Tahdziibut-Tahdziib, 1/416-417]. 3. Narrated by ‘Abdurrazzaq as in Tafsir Ibnu Katsiir (5/266), from Ibnu ‘Abbas. Ibnu Katsir said : “Its sanad contain ‘Abdul-Wahhaab bin Mujaahid, a person who cannot be made as hujjah". Adz-Dzahabi said in Al-Miizaan (2/682) : “Yahya said : ‘His hadith is not written’. Ahmad said : ‘He is nothing'(laisa bi-syai’)’. Ibnu ‘Adiy said : ‘Generally there is no mutaba’ah in whatever he narrated. Al-Bukhari said : ‘ The ulama said : He did not hear hadith from his father. 4. Narrated Ath-Thabari (no. 12214) from Mujaahid as mursal, in its sanad contain Ghaalib bin ‘Ubaidillah, his hadith is abandoned. Al-Bukhari said : “Munkarul-hadiits, heard from Mujaahid” [At-Taariikh Al-Kabiir 7/101 – via Tafsir Ibni Katsiir 5/265]. Refer to footnote Asy-Syaikh Ahmad Syaakir about this atsar in tafsir Ath-Thabariy 10/426]. He (Ath-Thabari – no. 12211) also narrated from Abu Ja’far, but the narration is mu’dlal. 5. Ibnu Katsir said (5/264-265I) : “Ibnu Marduyah (Mardawaih) narrated hadits ‘Ali bin Abi Thaalib radliyallaahu ‘anhu, ‘Ammaar bin Yaasir, dan Abu Raafi’; but it is not authenthic all the narration because of the weak sanad and majhul of narrators. 6. Narrated by Ibnu Abi Haatim from Salmah bin Kahiil (hal. 1162 no. 6551). But this sanad is munqathi’ between Salmah bin Kahiil and ‘Ali bin Abi Thaalib. Salmah although tsiqah have slight tendency to shia[lihat At-Tahdziib 4/156-157]. These shows all the narration is weak, extremely weak and even fabricated. The weakness is agree by muhaqqiq of Lubaabun-Nuquul It sure is very strang my brother when you KEEP TWISTING in your mind that UNKNOWN thought of Imamate your whole explanation is absurd because you cannot equate bow down with salah when Quran is clearly linking the two together cos its THE ACTION of the salah AS IS CLEARLY EXPLAINED But .....you my brother because you have NOTHING , ZILCH on Imamate CLEAR CUT are using weak and daif hadiths to support the THEORY OF ALI RADHYIALLAHUAN AND THE BEGGER to a quranic ayah which HAS COMPLETELY NOTHING, ZILCH ON IMAMATE OF ALI RADHYIALLAHUAN OR IMAMATE ITSELF Like I keep saying its that simple and easy my brother you just make it hard for yourself trying to ADD meanings to words that have a completely different meaning or understanding Take the words for as they are and if it doesn't make sense to you then CHILL sit back relax and think long and hard.........,ITS Allah SUBHANAWATALLAHS BOOK!!!
  20. Oh brother I will answer you quickly and simply Allah subhanawatallah is saying those WHO ESTABLISH SALAH ......(and Allah subhanawatallah CARRIES ON) you see it doesn't stop it's NOT TWO SEPERATE THINGS BROTHER!! AND THEY BOW ( either worship,humbly,obedient) DOWN Do you see brother? AND they bow and they pray and they pay zakat (not two SEPERATE things) I don't know how you study quran brother but be aware of ADDING things for your own benefit!!! And if you still no understand then read this from that yahoo link you gave me it should suffice for you brother , ( thank for the link bro) Is used with plural so it cant be for ALI(RA) FRom famous tafsir quran IBN KATHIR ﴿إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ﴾ (Verily, your Protector is Allah, His Messenger, and the believers...) means, the Jews are not your friends. Rather, your allegiance is to Allah, His Messenger and the faithful believers. ﴿الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلوةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَوةَ﴾ (those who perform the Salah, and give the Zakah...) referring to the believers who have these qualities and establish the prayer, which is one of the most important pillars of Islam, for it includes worshipping Allah alone without partners. They pay Zakah, which is the right of the creation and a type of help extended to the needy and the poor. As for Allah's statement, ﴿وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ﴾ (and they bow down,) some people thought that they give the Zakah while bowing down. If this were the case, then paying the Zakah while bowing would be the best form of giving Zakah. No scholar from whom religious rulings are taken says this, as much as we know. Therefore, ﴿وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ﴾ (and they bow down,) means, they attend the prayer in congregation in Allah's Masjids and spend by way of charity on the various needs of Muslims.
  21. I thought about it bro and my conclusion is ......IT'S YOU WHO IS DOING TAFSEER..... When the Quran says CLEAR and those who bow ( obviously to Allah subhanawatallah) by adding a story or an event when the Quran is NOT [He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation, but none knows its' interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding].
  22. Then after all that......why should I believe SHAKIR? When the rest don't go nowhere near what you and SHAKIR translate is it because its closest thing you will get to Imamate in Quran? Because a shia scholar says so? Honestly this is just LAUGHABLE!! BROTHER BOW DOWN IN SUBMISSION BOW DOWN IN WORSHIP BOW DOWN IN OBEDIENCE You see? Do you not bow down in worship? Just stick to 1 translation that is closest to your thinking brilliant logic Lol Quran my brother is for EVERYONE it's a guide TO ALL when new Muslim reverts come to Islam they LEARN QURAN easy to understand [He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation, but none knows its' interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding].
  23. That is just PURE NONSENSE You say he had NO CHOICE And the reason..... for Muslim unity? But according to shia he was APPOINTED by prophet sallalahualaihewasalam and ENDORSED in quran If Allah subhanawatallah makes him wali ( as per you shia bang on about as its mentioned in Quran) And prophet sallalahualaihewasalam ORDERED it Then why didn't he come forward? Again same answer as above UNITY!! so ALI radhyiallahuan NOT ENDORSING WHAT IS WRITTEN IN QURAN AND SAYING OF PROPHET SALLALAHUALAIHEWASALAM JUST FOR UNITY?? So he will go against Quran (nauzobillah) just for HUMAN UNITY? AND THAT TOO WITH MAJORITY APOSTATE SAHABA? Leave haq and join batil for.......unity? You see the CIRCLE you are TRAPPED IN?? IT'S just that simple LOGICALY
  24. Brother another EASY AYAH that you don't need TAFSEERS or Hadith for Brother while bowing or those that bow ?? اِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللّٰهُ وَرَسُوۡلُهٗ وَالَّذِيۡنَ اٰمَنُوا الَّذِيۡنَ يُقِيۡمُوۡنَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَيُؤۡتُوۡنَ الزَّكٰوةَ وَهُمۡ رَاكِعُوۡنَ‏ Why stick to one translation? You can only translate it with TAFSEERS , where as the verse itself IS SELF EXPLANATORY without TAFSEERS or IDEAS Sahih International: Your ally is none but Allah and [therefore] His Messenger and those who have believed – those who establish prayer and give zakah, and they bow [in worship]. Pickthall: Your guardian can be only Allah; and His messenger and those who believe, who establish worship and pay the poordue, and bow down (in prayer). Yusuf Ali: Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship). Shakir: Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. Muhammad Sarwar: Only God, His Messenger, and the true believers who are steadfast in prayer and pay alms, while they kneel during prayer, are your guardians. Mohsin Khan: Verily, your Wali (Protector or Helper) is Allah, His Messenger, and the believers, - those who perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, and they bow down (submit themselves with obedience to Allah in prayer). Arberry: Your friend is only God, and His Messenger, and the believers who perform the prayer and pay the alms, and bow them down. (5:55:12) wahum and they CIRC – prefixed circumstantial particle PRON – 3rd person masculine plural personal pronoun الواو حالية ضمير منفصل (5:55:13) rākiʿūna (are) those who bow down. N – nominative masculine plural active participle اسم مرفوع See how EASY it is for a MAUMIN? Here I will explain to you who is MY WALI according to quran My wali is only Allah and the messenger (as the Quran states) And those who BELIEVE and give zakat AND THEY BOW IN PRAYER So simple and beautiful my brother Quran is for EVERY MUSLIM and SO EASY TO UNDERSTAND
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