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dhiya_kalbi

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  1. you know i read on some shia site a verse interpretation. I am just a warner and for every people a guide. So they rafidah says prophet saw is warner not a guide now because he is dead ok. Now what about hazrat Ali ibn abi talib ra, hey even he is not a guide because he is dead too. Ok what about hazrat hasan is he a guide? No they all are dead so your current imam is (the umayyad phobia imam, )he is your guide. I say ok why our beloved prophet Muhammad saw can't be the guide i get an answer hey dead people can't guide so they are no more guide. I say ok.but What about intercession. Can we pray(make dua) to them. I get answer yes . I ask how come when they are dead, i get a beautiful answer no they are not dead so we can invoke upon them i ask are you sure prophet and 11 imams are dead or not? Topsy turvy, hey there is lot confusion/ i would say contracdiction, come on make an appoinment with mahdi we will sit with him talk finish all the problems for once and all. :) [Member Banned: Blasphemy of any kind towards Allah (sw), Prophet Muhammad (saww), the Ahlul-Bayt and any Prophet of Allah, shall be met with a permanent ban from this site. No warning is necessary.]
  2. i could not control my laughter, really this so called 12th imam is having a ummayad phobia so much that he hid himself since 1200 years, now 13th imam and 14th hahaha. Plz provide your imam with internet or or television he might be feeling bored inside cave lol. And you know this way he can be also connected to shias guide his people like remote control. Grow up shias, there is no one hiding. Allah bless you brother for exposing false dieties so called imams. And first of all shias say world cannot survive without an living imam, but where is he , wonderful replies i get occultation good morning , its just another word for hiding(due to umayad phobia). I got one simple question " Can i take an interview of your 12th imam" please please. Shia friends there is no one hidng or in occultation. When Allah said his religion is perfected, simple perfection means no more changes or improvement or new stuff. Perfection whatever Allah eastablished through his beloved prophet saw, is complete and safe now. Do you say perfection still requires improvement or something new? Allah guide us.
  3. i am not saying this nonsense, it is their in shia books, confirmed(hadiths) by imams, how can u deny your own hadith. ohhh i dint knew that you know so much about hazrat umar ra but u dint knew he married daughter of hazrat Ali ra. Dont tell me i am derailing the topic but how can you deny the fact that he ra was the man whose favors are upon persians for bringing the light of islam to this place, u can forget but Allah wont, he will be blessed even if there is a single muslim lives in iraq and iran did you just distuingished between islam and shiasm. ? even if the sun is behind clouds no one can deny fact that sun is thr and its light is thr and it is guiding people. So if the sun is just behind the clouds do u call it night or day? Wallah i am not derailing ,your belief in intercession has a strong connection with your so called current imam. Hazrat esa as Allah confirmed that he took him alive, but when hasan al askari died people were divided because there was no living imam, why they wr fighting if they knew that he had a son. It as clear as light, he never bore a son. Leave all this i asked regd nahjul balaga but you comfortably escaping my questions and talking irrevalant stuff. You did not answer me straight regd proof i asked from quraan that i ask, you did not answer straight proof i presented from nahjul balaga. See shias believe the world cant exist without an Imam, now i am asking simple question leader(imam) is the one who should leading not hiding, and he is responsible for his people and their problems, you call your current imam and ask whther it is shirk to do intercession, because hazrat Ali ra said there is no need to for intercede and you say there is need, lets get this confirmed from your current Imam (because you wont accept even from your books). What say?
  4. first my or your alim's are not infallible. They can make mistakes and they can be deceived too. Second no one means no one means have confirmed photo(physical,photographic) identity of prophet muhammad saw, hazrat Ali or his progeny. It is so easy too decieve anybody saying i am this or that. I dont this believe fairytale. Leader is the one who should be leading, whr is your leader can obama meet him or shemon peres or king of syria or president of iran meet him? Whr is he even i would like to meet him say hi how r u, where were u these many years. Every country have a leader who is reachable whr is the current leader of shias. You know iranians should be thankful to hazrat umar ra because of him islam reached in iran, he is the man whom hazrat Ali ra also gave bayah( like he gave bayah to other two khalifas ra ajma'in) and his daughter too. :). Anyhow you did not answered me regd that hazrat Ali ra said nahjul balaga dont use intercession to his son, but you say we should let me know whose IQ is more yours or hazrat Ali al murtaza ra.
  5. are you sure? Show me one unambigious verse where Allah says call upon my beloved ones i will answer you prayers. If you show me one single verse unequivocal straight forward(without adding my or your words , my or your logic to it) verse i am ready to do whatever you say , just one verse. first of all i asked(in my previous post refer it) whose capability is equal to Allah who can listen and answer prayers, now just u said it is prophet saw and his progeny, just ask for forgiveness for you did shirk by saying that few people got capability equal to Allah. And you are comparing prophet saw and his progeny with israel now this one is straight from horse's mouth , a new one ok congragulations and celebrations,lol please present the proof, quran nowhere fulfils desire of for people who r on wrong path, if i m wrong then verse will refute me if u r wrong than it is enough to prove that just now u lied upon the quran.
  6. fine your current leader(imam) should be leading (a leader is the one who leads), can he come out meet the leaders of the other community and other countries eastablish his leadership on the earth take the people out their misery. Please inform your leader in humility to help the people who r "astray". Why to even debate/worry if thr is already a leader who finish all this debatesand discussions. Finish all problems can be solved once he comes. who is this Ardabeli , is he infallible too? May be he was decieved by satan you know if he is fallible. You know thre was old man(satya sai) in india who claimed to be god and he did show many miracles and you wont believe thr millions of devotees of his fraud. Even they say how you negate all the miracles he has done. Imam of the time, now this what i call a beautiful advice, where is the current imam anyways?
  7. yes quran does not address , living dead or martyr even if have powers to listen, know and respond,how can they respond to millions or trillions of people at the same time, undoubtly this is not possible with the creation. So the moment we say we should be asking from creation than the creator, we are making those partner to Allah in his powers. Allah nowhere said invoke my beloved's i will reply your call, instead Allah said invoke upon me ill answer. Simple and clear verse, no logic needed . when u replying me plz read the post very clearly before replying dont be hurry, read everyword tentimes then reply next time ok kid. ;D
  8. btw i did not say esa job was finished, it is Allah said so. Sounds funny then laugh now so whr u want to discuss on this forum about imamat from quran put the link ill join thr. ;)
  9. i am asking a straight question , in reply i get things like " filthy sunni scholar", "flawed leadership", "IQ level", now i m offended to reply, which diverts the topic. Question: where did quraan says the dead or martyr or the living creation can "see" and "listen" and "know"(whats conceal in the hearts and minds) and anwer everyone's prayer (like Allah does). please note verse should express all the concerns explicitly. Waiting for a reply
  10. Hazrat ali ra says there is no need for anyone to intercede , but you say there is need. You say you can give thousand lives for him but you dont accept what he said in its pure form. as imamat(as usool e deen) of hazrat Ali ra and his progeny (peace be upon them all) is not mentioned in the book Allah so i dont believe he is an imam appointed by Allah rabbul izzat. Yes he was our fourth khalifah which was his destiny as per wish of Allah. (even nahjul balagah testifies his imamat was due shura of muhajir and ansar's peace be on them all) i think when i answered i did not say christians i said non muslims and kuffar i think(correct me if i have said). Esa as is not hiding, because Allah says in quraan Allah took prophet esa as up Alive and Allah also says that his job was accomplished. Leader is arabic word for imam, now have your last imam finished his job? So when i said leaders of non muslims i was saying like shemon peres , obama , manmohan singh, if i say prophet esa is leader of christians then ill to accept they are on the true path of the prophet esa as. No they are not on the path of esa as and he is not their leader. thanks exposing my iq level, hahaha. Dont be hurry to runaway, my IQ level might be low, but i dont make article of faith without proof from the book of Allah. Dont give thousand lifes for him but atleast accept whatever he said and follow this one life. Hazrat ali ra says dont intercede and i say dont intercede but you say no its like that we can intercede. Hahaha looks my IQ level and hazrat Ali ra IQ level is same , your IQ level is more than the IQ level than both of us.
  11. now that you have no answer to my question so you have sstarted calling sunni scholars filthy and what what, i am amazed to know that shias have unflawed leadership. ( an hiding imam this is what majlisi says) even non muslim and kuffar countries have a leader who could be contacted. What was that "where do we say imams show miracles independent of Allah" excuse me when did i use word imam aint i was talking about prophet isa as. As you have failed to answer to my simple request; i give something let see how you refute hazrat ali ra. He has not appointed guards to prevent your prayers from reaching, nor is there any need for anybody to intercede on their behalf. A part of letter from hazrat ali ra to his beloved son hazrat hasan ra, nahjul balagah letter no.31 now dont refute me, please refute your first imam lol. Best of luck.
  12. as i told you i am looking for a verse not your logic, if Allah said satan can see us then i dont go beyond that. If Allah says for martry's dont call them dead so i call them martrys of Allah,Allah says you know not how they are alive , i say i accept i dont know how they are alive.Allah says he perfected his religion on his final messenger,you its not , i say every sahaba of rasulallah was his perfect student you say they are not, So when i am comprehending or apprehending i dont go beyond than what Allah and his beloved messenger saw said (or never said), i do not apply logic and add to what they say(or what they never said). alhamdolillah prophets peace be upon them all do miracle with the help of Allah , what they do is not from thier ownself it is from Allah. they are "concrete proof" only if i apply your logic. Otherwise they r not. I dont attend majlis like shia friends religiously do day after day. And come up with their so called new new questions. My religion is not what scholar says, my religion is what Allah swt and his messenger says. And if u say sunni scholars are filthy then i have not seen one not even one of them cursing or recommending cursing even of the companions or ahlulbayth or wives of the beloved prophet saw, my scholar says lying is haram in religion(taqiyya). I dont know why you find it so difficult to answer my question without applying your or my or anyone's logic, my question was simple does anyone living or dead or martyr's have a smilar(to Allah) nauzibillah ability, have u given me one straight answer?
  13. i do have a serious problem in understanding your concept of calling other than Allah. Allah SWT says in quran And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation! and here you are explaining me as if the verse is like this "Call upon my beloved ones i will answer". Allah swt Declare whom Alive ? please ellobrate? Is this reply to my question where did quraan says the dead or martyr or the living creation can "see" "hear" "listen" "know"(whats conceal in the hearts and minds) and anwer everyone's prayer (like Allah does). if so : you say knowledge of unseen makes anybody(Living) equal to powers of Allah (nauzibillah) like seeing , listening , hearing , knowing and reply to each and every creation query, is this what you mean? Are you sure is this what you mean! (like even you and me are alive got hearing speaking knowing ability do one thing can you just guess my real name hahaha CAN YOU). You gave me a verse from chapter jinn i wont go too far ill give you another verse from the same chapter now you should explain me so these two verses in the way it should not contracdict each other okay? You quoted from here Chapter jinn 26:27 Chapter jinn:21-23 (yUSUF ali trans) I QUOTE HERE explain this two verses 26-27 and 21-22 within the same context scope! I REPEAT MY QUESTION AS YOU HAVE NOT ANSWER(i dont want to use someone's logic to come to conclusion) ; crystal clear verse which goes out the way and claims what i am asking for? I am asking where did quraan says the dead or martyr or the living creation can "see" "hear" "listen" "know"(whats conceal in the hearts and minds) and anwer everyone's prayer (like Allah does). hopefully waiting to see a concrete proof to what you believe so strongly.
  14. Intercession is shirk, Allah will never forgive shirk its good that you repent; follow the path of his messenger saw
  15. Intercession is shirk, Allah will never forgive shirk its good that you repent; follow the path of his messenger saw
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