Matam in Shia/Sunni Dialogue Posted September 25, 2016 · Report reply 5 minutes ago, Abu_Rumaysah said: Let me make it even more clear. 1) Yes, as it has been reported our beloved prophet (saws) cried for Imam Husayn. 2) No, it was not reported that he use to do this each year. 3) During his lifetime, our beloved lost some closest companions, including hz Hamza, and hz Jafar ibn Abu Talib. IT WAS NOT reported that he mourn for them month or 40 days, and IT WAS not reported that he mourn for them each year. I strongly believe that NONE from modern day shias loves hz Husayn more than he was beloved by his great grandfather, prophet Muhammad (saws). If keeping 40 days each year as a mourning, making majalis that time, beating chests, and etc would be recommended practise, Prophet (saws) without any doubt would do that in the very first place, to show example to his nation. I will leave aside so me lunatics that believe that Allah himself first made matam, or made marsiyah for hz Husayn. I hope, here at this forum, I am not amongst such lunatics. Yes, read the life of sayidina Husayn, take examples from his life. Try to live like he did. Cry if you can cry due to his brutal murder. But don't violate sunnah of his grandfather. I remember when at my job place, one scotich guy tried to mock me by saying that he seen these shia matams and self flagelations. He thought that - may Allah forbids, all muslims acting in this way. It took some time to explain him that these acts are not from Islam, and actually been condemned by our beloved prophet (saws). While talking about majalis and azadaris, Mutahhari said: How many legends have been fabricated by us Shi'is about Amir al Mu'minin 'Ali, many Peace be upon him! https://www.al-islam.org/al-tawhid/vol13-no3/ashura-misrepresentations-distortions-part-1-mutahhari/second-sermon-ashura#factors-tahrif Brother, one must realise that shias get their hadith from the imams as well. They have clearly stated that crying for imam husayn carries great reward. And only crying for him is allowed. The prophet (s) would not make this news open in his life time. Some things aren't told to everyone until it takes place. And prophet who would know the details of that event can cry over it before hand unlike anyone. Satan wasn't openly cursed either, not until he did the deed. This is just an analogy to help you understand. Anyway as for self flagellation, it has no part in sunnah of the imams either. But the Islamic shria needs definite proof to ban something and consider it haram. The jaloos and events where zanjeer zani takes place or that of 'jalsa' what are the islamic rulings on how to demonstrate in a jalsa? But then again this thread was for matam and not blood letting.