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  1. oh my mistake i didn't know u were suppose to burn in hell,sorry,go go,and get burnt,Inshallah Allah will heat the fire more,let's pray,ok?
  2. Salaam Un Alaykum Brother & Sister's have you heard a man name Ali Sina?, actually not Ali because Ali is the name of God and Imam Ali,call him Sina,this man is desired to burn in hell,he hate's prophet so much and then says I was Muslim,I have made a site to help www.Islam110.tk.
  3. LOGICAL CONCEPT OF GOD My first question to the atheist will be: “What is the definition of God?” For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities – therefore he does not believe in such a god. Similarly a Muslim too does not and should not believe in such false gods. If a non-Muslim believes that Islam is a merciless religion with something to do with terrorism; a religion which does not give rights to women; a religion which contradicts science; in his limited sense that non-Muslim is correct to reject such Islam. The problem is he has a wrong picture of Islam. Even I reject such a false picture of Islam, but at the same time, it becomes my duty as a Muslim to present the correct picture of Islam to that non-Muslim i.e. Islam is a merciful religion, it gives equal rights to the women, it is not incompatible with logic, reason and science; if I present the correct facts about Islam, that non-Muslim may Inshallah accept Islam. Similarly the atheist rejects the false gods and the duty of every Muslim is to present the correct concept of God which he shall Insha Allah not refuse. (You may refer to my article, ‘Concept of God in Islam’, for more details) QUR’AN AND MODERN SCIENCE The methods of proving the existence of God with usage of the material provided in the ‘Concept of God in Islam’ to an atheist may satisfy some but not all. Many atheists demand a scientific proof for the existence of God. I agree that today is the age of science and technology. Let us use scientific knowledge to kill two birds with one stone, i.e. to prove the existence of God and simultaneously prove that the Qur’an is a revelation of God. If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, ” Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it. SCIENTIFIC FACTS MENTIONED IN THE QUR’AN: for details on this subject please refer to my book, ‘THE QUR’AN AND MODERN SCIENCE – COMPATIBLE OR INCOMPATIBLE? THEORY OF PROBABILITY In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%. A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %. Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct. At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30. The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60. Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%. The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine. CREATOR IS THE AUTHOR OF THE QUR’AN The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘Allah’. QUR’AN IS A BOOK OF SIGNS AND NOT SCIENCE Let me remind you that the Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Qur’an is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge. But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Qur’an is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Qur’an was revealed 1400 year ago. At the end of the discussion, we both come to the same conclusion that God though superior to science, is not incompatible with it. SCIENCE IS ELIMINATING MODELS OF GOD BUT NOT GOD Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’). Surah Fussilat: “Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?” [Al-Quran 41:53]
  4. Salaam Un Alaykum. Any of the Atheist,now you have denied God strictly,on what basis and prove have you denied the Creator,So Just simply prove that the Creator is not there at all. Waiting for your answer's........
  5. Salaam Un Alaykum I have a general question,Is Shayri (Poetry) Of love allowed in Islam,cause I read many Sufi great poet's booklets ,and most of their poetry are based on Love etc.....So is it allowed or not?.And Please give a simple answer with reference, Of course. Thank's Ya Ali (a.s) Madad.
  6. In The Name Of Allah... Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One, Allah , the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born. Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Atheism is the handiwork of Shaitan .Let's simple say that there is no God (Astaghfirullah),So we do not make sense,we do not need to be alive,so why do we work so hard,when we won't get anything for that? "So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers." Some Simple Questions for Atheist. If man is nothing but the random arrangement of molecules, what motivates you to care and to live honorably in the world? Why have so many of history's greatest thinkers been believers? what is the definition of God? Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’). Surah Fussilat: "Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?" [Al-Quran 41:53]
  7. Salaam Un Aalyukum Here are a few examples (by no means all, but perhaps most) of what Christian Pharisees demand that we believe as “inerrant” fact: The Earth is a flat disk in shape, like a dinner plate, and rests upon mountain pillars. “It is [God] who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in.” — Isa. 40:22 “God has [created the Earth as] a circle on the face of the [chaos] waters [between the Earth and outer space], at the boundary between light and darkness.” — Job 26:10 “I [Lady Wisdom] was brought forth when [God] had not yet made earth and fields, or the world's first bits of soil. When [God] established the heavens, I was there, when [God] drew a circle on the face of the deep.” — Prov. 8:26-27 “The devil took [Jesus] to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor” [Matthew 4:8]. (Even from the top of Mt. Everest, it is impossible to see the “kingdom” of Greenland, to cite just one example.) “God shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble.” — Job 9:6 “The pillars of heaven tremble, and are astounded at [God's] rebuke.” — Job 26:11 “When the earth totters, with all its inhabitants, it is I [God] who keep its pillars steady.” — Psalm 75:3 [*]The sun revolves around the flat Earth. “On the day when YHWH gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to YHWH; and he [unspecified whether Joshua or God] said in the sight of Israel, ‘Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon.’ And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.” — Joshua 10:12-13 [*]A metal dome, Those who demand that you believe the Bible is inerrant demand that you believe the Earth looks like this from space. translated the “firmament” in the KJV, separates the sky from the chaos waters beyond. Holes in the metal dome let rain in — in other words, the sky is a giant, upside-down colander. “And God said, ‘Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters [of Earth] from the [chaos] waters [of outer space].’” — Genesis 1:6 “[God] walks on the dome of heaven.” — Job 22:14 “Again, on the second day, you created the spirit of the firmament, and commanded it to divide and separate the waters, so that one part might move upward and the other part remain beneath.” — 2 Esdras 6:41 [*]The stars are little lights in the sky that are capable of falling to Earth like meteorites. “Immediately after the suffering of [66-70 C.E.] the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven will be shaken [Matthew 24:29].” The Christian Testament's many predictions of the end of the world coming well before 100 C.E. are also erroneous. [*]One day can last 930 years. “And YHWH God commanded the human, ‘You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die’” [Genesis 2:16-17]. The original text makes it clear that God is not speaking metaphorically or spiritually. Isn't it lucky that since death hadn't been invented yet, the human ("ha'adam," pronounced "ha ah DAHM") had no idea what God was talking about! “When Adam had lived one hundred thirty years, he became the father of a son in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. The days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years.”— Gen. 5:3-4 [*]Noah killed off all the okay-to-eat (“clean”) species of animal. “Two and two, male and female, went into the ark with Noah [Gen. 7:8].” Almost six weeks of rain pass, 40 days and 40 nights, followed by 150 days of floating; it was the first day of the 601st year of Noah's life [8:13]. “Then Noah built an altar to YHWH, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar,” pleasing God [8:20]. Let's say the whole Flood took seven months. While there may have been some babies for Noah to kill, what about cows (gestation 288 days, about 9.4 months)? Or elephants, which are also okay to eat (gestation 660 days, about 21.6 months)? Inerrantists argue that Genesis 7:8 is contradicted by 7:2 — that Noah was instructed to take along one pair of unclean animals and sevenpairs of clean animals. They also argue that well over two million animals, 150,000 worms, and countless billions of insects could fit into a box (an ark is a wooden chest) that was 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet tall, and live together without eating each other, or defecating, for a minimum of seven months ( not counting onloading and offloading). They do not explain why God no longer performs this kind of big, flashy miracle — the kind that literal-minded, credulous believers imagine used to happen all the time, to people much less holy (including murderers [like Cain] and committers of incest [like Noah]) and much longer-lived (by hundreds of years) than themselves. [*]Flying insects walk on all fours. “All winged insects that walk upon all fours are detestable to you [Lev. 11:20-23].” In fact, no insect walks on all fours. Insects have six legs, three on each side. (Spiders have eight legs. Centipedes and millipedes are not insects — in fact, they eat insects.) [*]Rabbits and hares chew their cuds, just as cows do. “The hare, for even though it chews the cud, it does not have divided hoofs; it is unclean for you.” — Lev. 11:6 “ Yet of those that chew the cud or have the hoof cleft you shall not eat these: the camel, the hare, and the rock badger, because they chew the cud but do not divide the hoof; they are unclean for you [Deut. 14:7].” This is erroneous on a second count: Hares have cloven feet. A ruminant is an animal with a chambered stomach. Cows, camels, giraffes, sheep, goats, and deer are ruminants, and Leviticus says anyone may eat them. Ruminants eat, then regurgitate their food from the first stomach, chew it a second time as "cud," and then swallow it a second time, whereupon it proceeds to a different chamber of the stomach. Neither lagomorphs (hares and rabbits) nor rock badgers are ruminants. Inerrantists claim that rabbits and hares practice “refection,” a little-known phenomenon in which an animal eats its own feces. (Apparently inerrantists are unable to tell the difference between feces and cud, which makes this writer determined to avoid their dinner parties.) Sadly, rock badgers are neither ruminants nor practitioners of “refection.” Inerrantists have no explanation for why the Bible erroneously says rock badgers are ruminants OR for why, under their "refection" theory, the Bible can't tell the difference between cud and feces. Remember: the authors of the Bible were less advanced than we are; they were NOT stupid. [*]Moses had body odor that was strong enough to kill. “Then Amalek came and fought with Israel at Rephidim. Moses said to Joshua, ‘Choose some men for us and go out, fight with Amalek. Tomorrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the staff of God in my hand.’ So Joshua did as Moses told him, and fought with Amalek, while Moses, Aaron, and Hur went up to the top of the hill. Whenever Moses held up his hand, Israel prevailed; and whenever he lowered his hand, Amalek prevailed. But Moses' hands grew weary; so they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held up his hands, one on one side, and the other on the other side; so his hands were steady until the sun set. And Joshua defeated Amalek and his people with the sword.” — Exodus 17:8-13 This is hilarious! Imagine Moses played by Moe Howard, with Aaron and Hur played by Larry and Curly. This is one of the many ancient texts, laboriously inscribed onto tanned animal skins three thousand years ago, that inerrantantists claim are as factual as "the sun rises in the east." [*]Comets are evil. “They are wandering stars, for whom the deepest darkness has been reserved forever.” — Jud. 1:14 [*]Ahaziah was two years older than his father, Jehoram. (A) "[Jehoram] was thirty-two years old when he began to reign [Judah]; he reigned eight years in Jerusalem, [and then he died at the age of 40] to the regret of no one. . . . The inhabitants of Jerusalem made [Jehoram's] youngest son, Ahaziah, king as his successor. . . . Ahaziah was 42 years old when he began to reign". — 2 Chron. 21:20-22:2. If 2 Chronicles is as perfect and inerrant as God is, Jehoram was born around 882 BCE, and his son Ahaziah was born around 884 BCE, two years before his father was born. (B) 2 Kings 8:26 tells us, “Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign” — not 42 but 22. Which is inerrant, 2 Kings 8:26 or 2 Chron. 22:2? [*]Pi equals exactly three. 1 Kings 7:23: “Then [solomon] made the molten sea [i.e., an enormous vat]; it was round, ten cubits from brim to brim [i.e., approximately 180 inches in diameter]. A [rope] of thirty cubits [in length, i.e., a circumference of 540 inches,] would encircle it completely.” In fact, ten cubits in diameter would result in a circumference of 565.49 inches, or 31.42 cubits, so the 30-cubit rope would be 15.49" too short to encircle it completely — more than a foot. A circumference of 30 cubits means a diameter of 171.89 inches, or 9.55 cubits, so the distance brim to brim would be 8.11 inches shorter than Solomon's rope. (Legislators in Indiana in 1897 came close to passing a law dictating that pi equal 3.2 exactly, undoubtably after much argument about the presumed thickness of Solomon's vat's walls (inner diameter versus outer circumference). To make the legislators' math work, the vat's walls would have had to be at least NEGATIVE 5.625 inches thick at their widest! A diameter of 180" times 3.2 gives us a circumference of 576 inches (vat walls 8 inches THINNER than the vat's 540-inch circumference). A circumference of 540" divided by 3.2 gives us a diameter of 168.75 inches, or almost a foot too narrow to match the Bible. Luckily, the innocent students of 1897 were saved by a passing math teacher, one C.A. Waldo. (Waldo declined an introduction to the learned Ph.D. who had written the legislature's law, which was well on its way to being enacted before Waldo intervened. Waldo said "he was acquainted with as many crazy people as he cared to know.") If there ever was a King Solomon in "the real world," he was born in approximately 1005 BCE and reigned approximately 970-930 BCE. (Not surprisingly, 1 Kings 1-11 contradicts both 2 Samuel and 2 Chron. 1-9 on many vital points.) Could it possibly be that almost 3,000 years ago, when the highest level of writing technology was clay tablets and tanned animal skins, the priests of YHWH cared less about factuality than today's Christian Pharisees do? [*]Zechariah and Jeremiah were the same person. “Then was fulfilled what had been spoken through the prophet Jeremiah, ‘And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of the one on whom a price had been set, on whom some of the people of Israel had set a price, and they gave them for the potter’s field, as the Lord commanded me.’” — Matt. 27:9-10 In point of fact, Jeremiah says nothing like this. The closest the Hebrew Scriptures come is Zechariah 11:12-13: “I then said to them, ‘If it seems right to you, give me my wages; but if not, keep them.’ So they weighed out as my wages thirty shekels of silver. Then YHWH said to me, ‘Throw it into the treasury — this lordly price [only about four thousand dollars in today's money] at which I was valued by them.’ So I took the thirty shekels of silver and threw them into the treasury in the house of YHWH.” Notice that the shekels were weighed rather than counted. (The Latin word expendere means "to weigh"; the Greek word drachma originally meant "handful.") Zechariah wrote around 530 BCE, centuries after money had been invented but centuries before the value of the metal a coin was made of was divorced from the value of the coin itself. For hundreds of years, the talent was the shape and size of a cannon ball, and weighed anywhere from 60 to 100 pounds. Much as inerrantists would like you to believe otherwise, Jeremiah and Zechariah were not the same person. Jeremiah prophesied the coming of the Babylonian Exile; Zechariah lived roughly 100 years later, and uttered prophesies of hope after the return from exile and during the rebuilding of the Temple. Inerrantists usually ascribe the misquotation to oral tradition — that is, they claim that Jeremiah said it, but that it was never written down until Zechariah quoted Jeremiah, presumably through ESP. And then for the next 500 years, everyone wrongly thought Zechariah said it, until the author of the gospel of Matthew provided the correct citation. Which we must believe or the Bible contains errors, and if it contains errors, it's not the holy word of God and might as well be thrown into the nearest dumpster. Bush-wah! Occasionally, inerrantists stitch together a word here and a word there from Jeremiah, and call it a valid source. To which I say, stitch together a word here and a word there from Zechariah 5:5 and Zechariah 10:2: “That is” + “utter nonsense.” [*]Mustard has unique properties. “God's Perfect World is like a mustard seed that someone took and sowed in his field; it is the smallest of all the seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest of shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches” [Matthew 13:31-32]. Fact one: there are many smaller seeds — for example, orchid seeds. Fact two: mustard grows into a bush, not a tree. [*]Matthew tells us (1:1-17) there were 42 generations from Abraham to Jesus, inclusive, and then lists only 41 generations. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah and Tamar, Perez, Hezron, Aram (seven), Aminadab, Nahshon, Salmon, Boaz and Ruth, Obed, Jesse, King David and the woman from ("daughter of") Sheba (14), Solomon, Rehoboam, Abijah, Asaph, Jehoshaphat, Joram, Uzziah (21), Jotham, Ahaz, Hezekiah, Manasseh, Amos, Josiah, Jechoniah (28), Salathiel, Zerubbabel, Abiud, Eliakim, Azor, Zadok, Achim (35), Eliud, Eleazar, Matthan, Jacob, Joseph and Mary, Jesus (41). [*]Thirty-nine hours equal three days. “For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth [Matt. 12:40].” Jesus died at approximately 3 p.m. on Good Friday and was greeted by Mary Magdalene (possibly accompanied by “the other Mary,” Joanna, and/or Mary the mother or wife of James) just after dawn on Sunday — approximately 40 hours, rather than 72. [*]According to Luke, Jesus thought the Hebrew Scriptures were all about him. “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you — that everything written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms” — i.e., all of the Bible that was available in the first century — “must be fulfilled [Matt. 24:44].” Nothing written explicitly about Jesus of Nazareth appears in the Hebrew Scriptures. [*]The end of the world will come well before 100 C.E. " Truly I tell you, this generation [i.e., those standing around and listening to Jesus preach] will not pass away until all these things have taken place." — Matthew 24:34 is a typical example of the many, many "little apocalypses" in the Christian Testament. Literally dozens of citations exist where Jesus, Paul, or one of their followers predicts that the world will end within a few years of his first-century prediction. [*]Jesus quotes scripture that doesn't exist. “Let the one who believes in me drink. As the scripture has said, ‘Out of the believer's heart shall flow rivers of living water’” (John 7:38). In the Hebrew Scriptures, living water comes from God, not from believers in God. Whatever Jesus may be quoting, it isn't in the Bible. [*]Isaiah and Malachi were the same person. “As it is written in the prophet Isaiah, ‘See, I am sending my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way; the voice of one crying out in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight [Mark 1:2-3].’” The gospel of Mark was written around 70-75 CE. “See, I am sending my messenger to prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple. The messenger of the covenant in whom you delight — indeed, he is coming, says YHWH of hosts [Malachi 3:1].” The prophet Malachi [this may be an alias; it means “my messenger”] probably lived between 500-450 BCE, well after the return from the Babylonian Exile. “A voice cries out: 'In the wilderness prepare the way of YHWH, make straight in the desert a highway for our God' [isa. 40:3].” The prophet Isaiah proclaimed his message between 742 and 701 CE, during the period when the Northern Kingdom was conquered and annexed by the Assyrian Empire, roughly 100 years before the Babylonian Exile. “This is the one of whom the prophet Isaiah spoke when he said, ‘The voice of one crying out in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight [Matthew 3:3].”’” The gospel of Matthew was written around 85-90 CE, 10 to 20 years after the gospel of Mark, and was based on Mark (and Q, and proto-Matthew). Matthew, who was a rabbi, was obviously aware that Mark was erroneously attributing Malachi's words to Isaiah when he pointedly provided the correct words. Inerrantists tell us that even though Matthew believed Mark had made a mistake (as indeed he had), you and I must believe he did not. [*]All pesky little details (statistics, etc.) are to be ignored. The Bible is replete with statistical discrepancies. Did David kill 700 Arameans (2 Sam. 10:18) or 7,000 (1 Chron. 19:18)? Did he buy a threshing floor for 50 shekels of silver (2 Sam. 24:24) or 600 shekels of gold (1 Chron. 21:25)? Did 24,000 die in a plague (Num. 25:9) or did 23,000 (1 Cor. 10:8)? Did God say that Abraham's descendants would be enslaved 400 years (Gen. 15:13) or 430 (Ex. 12:41, Gal. 3:17)? Did God ask for a census of Israel (2 Sam. 24:1-2), or was it Satan (1 Chron. 21:1-2)? (Conservatives really put non-conservatives down when they say, oh, God must have made Satan do it.) Was humankind the last thing God created (Gen. 1:26) or the first (Gen. 2:7)? Did Abraham move to Canaan before his father died (Gen. 11:32, 12:4) or afterward (Acts 7:4)? These are only a few of the Bible's dozens of discrepancies. [*]Abiathar was his own son. [Jesus said], “[David] entered the house of God, when Abiathar was high priest, and ate the bread of the Presence, which it is not lawful for any but the priests to eat, and he gave some to his companions.” — Mark 2:26 “David came to Nob to the priest Ahimelech.” . . . — 1 Samuel 21:1-6 and 2 Samuel 8:17 provide the story about how David entered the Temple and ate the bread of the Presence when Ahimelech, the son of Abiathar, was high priest. [*]Jesus ascended into heaven like a yo-yo. Jesus is said to have ascended into heaven on the day he was resurrected (Luke 24:51) and forty days later (Acts 1:3). Inerrantists sacrifice the “plain meaning” of Luke, saying that it must be interpreted, to preserve the inerrancy of Acts. It's ingenious, but they cannot provide any useful protocols for anyone outside their little Christian Pharisee club to figure out which texts must be read for their “plain meaning” and which must be interpreted. [*]Murder is in the eye of the beholder. “You shall not murder.” — Exodus 20:13 God ordered Joshua to commit a massacre: “Joshua took Makkedah on that day, and struck it and its king with the edge of the sword; he utterly destroyed every person in it [including innocent women and children and even cattle and other property]; he left no one remaining. And he did to the king of Makkedah as he had done to the king of Jericho. . . . YHWH gave [Libnah and Lachish] also and [their kings] into the hand of Israel.” — Joshua 10:28-32 [*]God has human body parts. “They heard the sound of YHWH God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and the woman hid themselves from the presence of YHWH God among the trees of the garden.” — Genesis 3:8 “I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars that you have established.” — Psalm 8:3. These are just two of the many references to God's body parts. [*]By No Mean's I am posting this to fight with anyone,just give me simple explaination'
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