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khamosh21

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  1. my research has led me to agnosticism, it's the outcome not liked by believers, which naturally makes them hostile. If God exists, and if He is Just, then He knows what I have been and going through, and what my intentions are.
  2. it seems as if good akhlaq is reserved only for people that you guys agree with.
  3. it's interesting that purpose of these forums is to ask questions and hope someone with more knowledge can reply. just don't engage in the convo if your only resort is to personally insult the person asking the questions. let's say i am lazy... i'll admit, i am lazy. but so is everyone else who comes and asks questions hoping for answers from someone who isn't as lazy ;).
  4. personal judgments and insults and not addressing the issue... nice one bro
  5. Please explain this one to me: "...have narrated from reliable chains of narrators from Imam Ali Reza ((عليه السلام).) that one day the Holy Prophet (S) went to the house of Zaid bin Haritha bin Sharjeel Kalbi. When he entered, he saw that the wife of Zaid was taking a bath. The Holy Prophet (S) said: “Glory be the one Who has created you.” By this statement he meant that she must consider the Almighty Allah as pure and free from the saying of infidels who say that angels are the daughters of God, as the Almighty Allah has Himself said" The book says it's authentic, but that in itsel
  6. To elaborate on this, for example sunnis pretty much do and say the same, when you point out their hadith, they start saying it's weak. I remember in my teenage years I would debate with sunnis online, I thought I had found the one hadith which would convert them to shia-ism, only to be told the hadith isn't authentic or is weak. So sunnis trust their ilm rijal as much shias trust theirs... why should i trust shia historians any more than sunni historians? why should shia ilm rijal be trusted any more than sunni's.
  7. I'm a born shia, i guess was a born shia, i definitely not assuming the above, and it is a good line of defense that I would use too when i was "believer". the above is exactly the issue I take with our history and hadith, and the above text I posted is nothing but proof of that, despite the text many times authenticating itself.
  8. I know you've left the thread, this is for other readers. How do we know this isn't a fabrication, and excuse to help cover up for all the strange hadiths? how do we know that ilm rijal is authentic considering there is a conflict of interest and bias towards certain beliefs... how does one authenticate the method of authenticity?
  9. According to Allameh Majlisi, this has been narrated from reliable chain of narrators. But it's not open for discussion as I need to go do my "homework". Thank you, wish you all the best.
  10. it's amazing how judgemental people can be and assume and deduce things they know nothing about. You assume I haven't done homework, whereas you know nothing about me personally and the type Islamic studies i'm involved in. Instead of addressing the issues, they attack the person making issues. Telling someone to do their homework, why don't you just say you don't know the answers and I should go and find them for myself. Isn't that a much better way of telling someone they should do the seeking themselves vs putting them down?
  11. when there is no logical defense for our nonsensical texts, it normally comes down to this: 1. It's weak/fabricated 2. Personal judgements about the person asking questions, ignorant, doesn't understand, is lazy, is a sinner. 3. Placing the burden of proof on the other.
  12. I wish Allameh Majlisi had done his homework and not written such nonsense.
  13. I guess we should be thankful to him for making our life's test only harder.
  14. lol, it's a shia famous scholar that wrote the above book and I'm the one being lazy lol
  15. Scholars like Allameh Majlisi who wrote the above book?
  16. By the way the text itself keeps repeating the phrase "narrated through authentic chains of narrators" lol
  17. c'mon man this so intellectually weak. i don't even look at hadith within the framework of authentic or non-authentic, since i doubt all hadith any way, even the so called "authentic" ones. it's difficult to explain here in writing.
  18. How would you defend the above text if a non-muslim were to ask you about it?
  19. sadly i have reached a point where I don't believe anything i read, too many doubts about everything. For all purposes my mind and faith is agnostic. the above text is only one example.
  20. No actually that is not what worries me. What worries me the entire text is full of contradictions and contradicts many other concepts. It contradicts other historical accounts (e.g. Aisha's age is said to be 6 above but most scholars seem to disagree with this). My problem is i don't trust our historical accounts. These accounts do not sound anything like the accounts of someone who was infallible. e.g. The Prophet was embarrassed at this and he said, “Cool down, I will not have relations with Mariya again. I have made her unlawful for myself.” The Prophet didn't say anything of hi
  21. You asked for examples, here I've started a whole thread on it:
  22. Recently in a thread I was discussing the Prophet's marriage to Aisha... I couldn't find the historical account of why this marriage took place. So I decided to do a search on al-islam.org, I still wasn't able to find out why the marriage took place, but I did come across something even more worrisome. Here I copy paste excerpts from the shocking and unbelievable account of the Prophet's marriages found in Hayatul Qulub by Allameh Majlisi. I will not do a commentary or ask questions (for now), other than how can anyone trust our historical accounts? I have also bolded parts I found just really
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