khamosh21

“That which is perceived is existence. We exist and other than us whatever is exists. We are nothing but existence. Have nothing but existence. Perceive nothing but existence. And see nothing but existence. The opposite of existence is non-existence which is nothingness. Does not exist. It is not any thing and so cannot be perceived in the first place in the external realm of reality. Even discussing or conceiving it, I.e. mentally, can only be done under the umbrella of existence. Existence is the source of and the origin to infinite vast array of emanations, actualizations and manifestations. Whatever emanates, actualizes, or manifests in reality must have done so through existence, not non-existence. This principal is the most self-evident of principals. In short, other than existence, there is nothing. All is and all manifestations arise through existence. Existence runs the order of the universe. It is rather the universe per se.” [Mod Note: Quote is from here:] https://sekaleshfar.com/lecture/existence-of-God/

Salaam, a little background... I have been struggling for few years in finding proof of God. If anyone has seen some of my past posts, they'll see that I was entertaining athiesm, and honestly was really stuck. A few things really helped me in understanding God... 1. Realizing immateriality of thoughts, sense of self, and more importantly universal concepts and their immateriality (love, justice, etc) 2. This lecture series where sheikh explains purely through intellectual means what Existence is. https://sekaleshfar.com/lecture-series/gnosis-of-the-soul/page/2/ I still struggle with many issues, but the arguments presented in above lecture series allowed me to have a direct experience of the immaterial self, and it totally blew my mind... it was like a new door had been opened. So just wanted to recommend the above.

@Zahra.5... please stop copy pasting the same thing over and over again in different threads. also it's a long wall of text, not spaced out, not very readable

correct. like if the parents are abusing their children. you and me were not kidnapped by the state. whats the point of this thread? stop living in countries and go of the grid?

marriage is so over rated. what if things don't work out for you? I know a married a couple that divorced after many kids and they are practically insane at this point. how many "married" people really look happy to you? really observe the people around you. enjoy the freedom you have. all will happen when it needs to happen.

welcome back to ShiaChat Sami

there used to be a shiachat member by the name of Sami and Sami II... google him... he was on the extreme end of things.

let me clarify what I mean by evidence. Everything you have posted is Quranic evidence, and on it's own it can't be verified. For example there is no way to prove a people by the name of Adam and Hawa were teleported to Earth, you have to have faith in it. This discussion isn't faith based, pretend you're talking to an athiest. (side note, did you know Allama Tabatabai in tafsir al mizan states we are born from halal incest between Adam's first borns? Because God can make halal or haram whatever he likes and whenever he likes). The type of evidence of pagan worship I can give an example of which has no doubts: 1. Pyramids 2. Temples for sacrifice and idols 3. Written histories of worldwide communities based on research. These are few examples. edit: number 3 does have doubts, written histories can be wrong!

Fair enough, thanks for the time you have taken to write replies.

sure brother that's totally understandable. its just that in the other thread you said you were going to do wudu and thats why it was taking time for you to get back to me etc etc I just thought you were a man of your word... pls spend your time as you wish brother and take it easy, your ego seems hurt and you sound way to upset.

All the best.

what about our other thread.. sura sajda???? is this normal, u drop out in middle of convos?

now that is an odd response. do you not speak to people who think you're wrong lol... or do you accept you're wrong and/can't argue any further?

Im using this verse in the way Shias use Sunni hadith, Muslims use the bible, to show from your own book you are wrong. I am saying you are wrong in this concept of historical monotheism, the Qur'an doesn't even with agree you! your basis for such thinking is because you can’t reconcile your concepts, and have borrowed them from everywhere to create a more sensible version of history and the world. if we consider the Qur'an as made from the mind of Prophet Muhammad, it becomes very clear why these contradictions occur.

Surah Ar-Room, Verse 42: قُلْ سِيرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ فَانظُرُوا كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلُ كَانَ أَكْثَرُهُم مُّشْرِكِينَ Say: Travel in the land, then see how was the end of those before; most of them were polytheists. (English - Shakir) via iQuran