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Arsal

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  1. Ok wait, lemme get this straight k ill follow the companions no prob, wait some compaions are sayin one thing and another is sayin something totally diff, wat do we do now?i kno follow any of them!!!! right? :!!!: see wat if their is a quarrel between companions? wat if only a few actually were cmpanions(i.e. Ali, Salman i Farsi ..etc) (as) ok now wat is the requirements for them to be companions, would that be the people who met him, the Prophet pbuh ? cuz im sure maybe the Prophet pbuh met alot of ppl and spoke to them and established friendship with them, r then they companions? see wat u say makes no sense u site SUNNI sources of course ur gonna get something that favours the "companions" tell me this wat makes a person a companion?
  2. Ok seriously i feel sunnis r foolin themseleves when they put up the arugument that the 3 Caliphs(ra) were better than Ali(as) regardless of sect or personal opion Imam Ali(as) was way better than the three and had some divine wisdom, the others were just normal people, sure i acknowledge that they were frnds of The Prophet pbuh but lissen Ali (as) was his son-in-law, the 1st to believe in him Ali (as) at no point in his life was a kafar, the other three were, this is true, sorry if it offended anyone.....but ok after all this and then when u see the how the Claiphate went like ok lets say ur way was right then how can an man like Yazid(laanaat) become a caliph commander of the faithful!!!!!! how? u failed but when u see our Imamat system u see that none of our Imams are dictators or oppersive, they dealt justice while others dealt favours!!!! this is a very well known thing to deny it would be acceptance of ur pride of bein sunni!!!! and that is blinding u from the truth!!!!!! Plzzz explain!!!!!!
  3. Does this make me look fat? i was asked this and could not answer...lol kiddin sorry not to make a mockery of this thread.... but no seriously like i was asked once If Omar was such a bad guy, why did Imam Ali (as) allowe him(omar) to marry his daughter? I could not answer fo the fact i didnot kno which daughter? if someone could tell me via a messsage i would not liek to disturb this thread again...sorry about the joke again but had to do it..lol Salaams!!
  4. Well i was born in pakistan moved here to america when i was one but i never really knew anythign about ISLAM i was worse than those shia by name, and like we never had a mosque or anythin near us and my parents took me all the way from New Jersey to New York for Muharram but i neva really cared about that it was just a tip to New York and to visit my realatives. i dunt blame anyone for that rather i find that i myself had accepted that life style and was relly a dumb kid and like the west does busy us up, but that is no excuse. FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I WILL SAY THAT ISLAM SHOULD NOT BE FED TO US LIKE MEDICINE, AS OUR PARENTS MAY HAVE DONE, RATHER IN MY CASE ISLAM WAS A MYSTERY TO ME SO WHEN I HAD ACCES TO A MOSQUE A SHIA MOSQUE I FOUND MYSELF READIN THOUSANDS OF BOOKS LEARNIN AND LAEARNIN MOE AND MOE. i find that we all will be msguided eventually rather than blame a place on it i feel that we should soemehow try and fight it and learn about our religon, the west is a place for Jihad al-Akbar and a good one none the less so i feel livin here is good for my Iman lol i dunno, i feel the west made me a better Muslim .....sorry if it seems off the topic or random i dunno seems kinda wierd when i read it maself...lol ;)
  5. Hi i was wondering wat are the response to some of these questions i got from a sunni brother in faith and how i may respond to them.... 1. Why is shia azan diff? to this i think it be that we add it in as a sign of respect, rather it is not part of the azan we just add it in as an interuption, thats my response if anyone has a better one plz let me kno. 2. Why do shias put their head on a rock in sajaadah(plz excuse their ignorance they mean on a mohar)?lol well i think there is two responses or maybe three, 1. is that the prophet did this and it is sunat, but i cannot prove that with hadeeths or ayats. 2. we do it cuz Adam (as) was created from clay and its a sign of humility. 3. is that the 1st sajadah symbolizes our creation and we go away from Allah(swt) and the Astagfhar we make symbolizes our sinful life and then the second sajadah is our return to Allah(SWT) 3 WHY DO SHIAS only pray three namazes,(i have told them we pray 5 times a day but on congeregate three times a day)? but that is the question wy do we congergate only three time rather than 5? that one i do not have a response for I ould apperciate a response asap and would thank all fo educating me a bit more, may Allah(swt) bless u all for this!! AMEEN!!!
  6. FUNNY THING I HEARD WAS THAT THERE IS A SUNNI SCHOLAR WHO HAS NARRATED MANY HADEETHS AND A BROTHER HAD BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO COUNT THEM AND HE HAD MADE THE OBSERVATION THAT THE NUMBER OF HADITHS THIS SCHOLAR HAS NARRATED IS IMPOSSIBLE, EVEN HAD THIS MAN LIVED WITH THE PROPHET pbuh HE STILL WOULD NOT HAVE NARRATED THIS MANY AND ASO STATED THAT EVEN IF HE LIVED WITH THE PROPHET pbuh AND THE PROPHET pbuh DID NOT EVEN SLEEP THIS MANY HADEETHS WOULD STILL NOT HAVE BEEN NARRATED...LOL..I FIND IT FUNNY BUT AS I WAS UNABLE TO ATTAIN THE NAME OF THE SCHOLAR I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HEARD SOMETHIG ALONG THIS LINE? AND IF YOU COULD INFORM ME WHO THIS IS, OR IF THIS IS JUST A JOKE AMONGST THE SHIAS, BUT IF IT IS I FIND IT HILARIOUS!! :!!!:
  7. Listen there has been much debate on which sect feels that the Quran is changed, there are sunni and shia hadith. Listen the Quran u and i and any muslim reads today is the same as the one Prophet Muhammad pbuh read to people so plz refrain from makin acusations such as the such and such a book on either side shia and sunni claims that teh Quran is changed for it is not true we all have the same Quran all that is diff is the english meanings and interpertations that is what is different. i met many ignorant men on both sides who claim such things against the other sect and i feel it is a sin to say such thing because u call Allah(SWT) a failure ASTAGFIRUALLH(Allah FORGIVE ME FOR SAYIN SUCH A THING) Allah PROTECTS THE QURAN AND WE CANNOT CHANGE IT IF WE TRIED
  8. I was readin a book that sed he(omar) beat him(his sonm) to death for drinking ill find that if i can salaams
  9. My parents had attended a majalis and heard Maulana say that when a saudi king or someone in the saudi dynasty dies Abdullah something that days later Imam Mehdi (as) will come dunno if anyone knows of this he sed this was a hadith of Prophet Muhammmad pbuh and agreed upon by shia and sunnis i dunno has anyone heard this or does anyone know anything about this? thank you
  10. Salaam I was wondering weather those were sunni ahadith or shia? Because i have some sunni ahadith that prove our path is right. Oh yea i am also Shia! Thank you
  11. Was wondering if anyone had a link to a site that contains like a book on angels preferably shia book or a site that will help...thank you
  12. I feel that sunni beliefs, limits women's rights and shias since we have women a holy figures we allow them more freedom...i do not want to sound ignorant and say sunnis oppress there women and shias dont thats not true...but in general i feel that Umar(ra) was the reason for this, that is true and not just an attack on sunni caliphs...sorry if i may be wrong but i truely believe this can i get some opinions and would liek to ask the shia bro not to make there comment seem so condesending and mean...cuz i see alot of that we shouldnt be so hostile to sunnis....most dutn know why there sunni just are so if we invite them to our way adn show them our belief who knows what will happen also another thing for ma sunnis i was having a convo wid a sunni bro about shia sunni and to retort my statements he goes if Umar was such a bad man why did Ali(AS) marry his daughter to him? which daughter? i did not kno how to respond to that cuz i never heard it in ma life..plz which daughter? an example would be not allowing woman to go to graves and a graveyard why is that?
  13. TO ANYBODY WILLING TO LISSEN WHEN THE GREAT FLOOD HAPPENED AND ALL THE WICKED PEOPLE DIED SATAN CAME TO NOAH(AS) AND SAID I'D LIKE TO THANK U FOR HELPIN ME, NOAH(AS) SAID HOW DID I HELP U?, SATAN THE MORON SAYS WELL INSTEAD OF ME MISLEADING THOSE PPL AND SENDING THEM TO HELL U JUST SENT THEM FOR ME...WEL LONG STORY SHORT SATAN GAVE HIM SOME ADVICE AND SED TO PUT UR PRIDE ASIDE CUZ THATS WAT MADE ME LOOSE MY POSITION IN HEAVEN AND SOMETHING ELSE CANT REMEMBER...BUT MY POINT IS THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL STAY IGNORANT AND DUMB BECAUSE OF PRIDE..U WILL CLAIM TO THE RIGHT RELIGON REGARDLESS OF WAT TOHERS SAY JUST BECAUSE UR TO PROUD TO ADMIT UR WRONGAND ULL PAY FOR THAT HELL IS THE ULTIMATE END FOR A PROUD MAN SO THINK BEFORE U LET UR PRIDE POLLUTE UR JUDGEMENT....ALSO IF U WOULD LIKE TO KNO WHERE I GOT THAT STORY FROM HAYAT AL-QULUB V.1 UNDER THE CHAPTER ON PROPHET NUH(AS)
  14. To the validity of the Bible we do not call it crrupt because it does not conform to our ways it is corrupt!!! When Isa(AS) died his Bible went missing and there were no copies..the disciples wrote it from there regelection and also if u notice that somethings are different in there stories..like example would be ressurection..one says so and so was there and another says so and so(who are different ppl from wat another says) was there and like the truth is that is that if it was perfect there would be no difference in the story...also i tried making a point before the reason the Bible believes the earth is thousands of years old is cuz it was the opinion of those diciples that wrote it when in truth the earth is millions of years old. They could not believe it to be so...also u have the KJB which was written by King James and he changed the Bible around did he not? The Koran is the same as when it was written and will be till the end, the only difference is our interpertation of it, thats where differences starts. Sorry again if i may be wrong who knows
  15. Does the Bible have any scientific claims, ike anything the Bible says that has been proven in science...just wondering, like i mean to say the Bible shouldnt because it is created by people from memory 30 yrs after Christ so...and also an example like the Bible says the world is only 6000 yrs old(i may be mistaken maybe smaller or larger) but it does not agree with science ut the Koran says its millions of years old...also Biblical have something,Shroud of Turin, that has been carbon dated and that when it was dated that it was proved to be younger then the time of Jesus Christ(AS) but Christians reject it because they say something like carbon dating is satanic..i dunno can someone explain some Bible verses that have scientific proof...just askin..forgive me for any mistakes in my claims..im human
  16. Good point i guess..but think about it all along people have preached the same message but in no way have they ever met or seen eachother they all were sayin the same thing..i think the roman gods and all the others are just the misinterpertations of people maybe Zues was an angel that a prophet was speaking of best example i could give is that the idols around the Kabaah were called daughters of Allah...that proves that the concept of a ultimate god was not created by Muhammad but that He(Allah) had exsisted before and that the people just took the religon of that prophet and changed it to their liking...also i would like u to think...Prophet Muhammad(saw) was asked by a atheist "why do u worship that which u cannot see and may not exsist?" Muhammad(SAW) said "If he does not exsist and i am wrong then no harm will come to me, but if he does exsist and i am right then u have a problem." So i mean before u just go to science and say that it is the ultimate truth and there is no god u shuld think wat if i mean i believe that u do care for urself and if u have a family u'd care for them and check it out. i kno more than likely most people reject religon all together because there is so many people who claim to be the right way and its a hassel to burden urself and look through all these religons and find the right one but laziness isnt an excuse so, i mean i just warn u as Muhammad(SAW) warned that athesist if i am wrong then im wrong according to ur beief ill just die and thats it no harm in prayer just a good work out, but if im right and ur wrong ur gonna burn and thats that.
  17. Just wonderign why people reject the belief in a higher being, for attention, for the fact that God never came wen u called, i wuld like those who do not believe in god to give me a reason y....just wondering
  18. Well maybe there was nobody in south america and russia people migrated there to those parts native americans and inuits and all those people were people from asia who had traveled there , i have heard buddah being a prophet, he mentions the maetra, which will come and bring justice on earth so some ppl believe this to be Imam Mehdi.
  19. To muhjahid of ISA tell me would sending all muslims to hell for believing that there is one god and only one god... would that be a just thing to do? no..when christians believe that three in one and one in three...that is not mentioned in the bible nor in any other book..this saying came in the time after Jesus when fools believed he was god and to explain how it is possible they made the trinity...tell me if ur god would send me to hell because i felt that the true religon(if it is christianity) had to many contraditory things like a polluted bible and the fact that they have gay religous leaders,which is a sin!!! Then there gotta be something wrong, muslims pray to GOD ALL MIGHTY 5 times a day Christians go only sunday because their god got tired while making the earth(so isnt that a sign of weakness?) i would like an explanation of how the trinity makes sense to u plz no websites just gimme ur opinion
  20. Thank You for the reply i dunno some people sed that a hindu bought it and then gave it to the Imams becuz he(the hindu) knew the value of the head
  21. Sallam Brothers and Sisters i was just wondering we hear much about Karbala and Aushura and i wonder what ever hapened to the head of IMAM HUSSAIN? Many said that Yazid sold it to a hindu or something like that i do not know can some one inform me..thank u
  22. Dear Day nor do i think that Jesus(AS) was a liar the comforter would have been the Prophet for the world, Jesus was sent just for the tribes of Israel and not for the world as for Muhammad he was sent for the entire world not just the Arabs. And also Muhammad showed signs of his Prophethood which if u read the books on his life u will see many have seen them. Also the information i have acquired from a source on the net i do not see a way to contact the writer so as to answer ur questions but will try my best...thank u for the warm welcome and the comment that his bretheren were those of the 12 tribes of Israel they wouldnt be bretheren than would they im talkin bretheren like Isaac and Ishmael the tribes of Israel were just that Israelis and the others people of Ishmael would be his bretheren would they not...i mean listen here is how i look at it the three major religons Juddaism Chritianity and Islam(Forgive spelling errors) the first two were named after someone Juddaism, Juddah Macabea. Christianity, Jesus Christ well than they are all man made religons but Islam's founder is Allah and Muhammad is His messenger all the prophets preached but the message was not conveyed so Muhammad was sent to establish God's religon on earth i mean thats why we all have same principles except we have them clearer we dunt have much trivial questions and we have concise answers of course when u take something holy and put it in our(humans) hands we make more difficult than it is so i mean jus think on that!!
  23. Prophet Muhammad(SAW) was praiseworthy in the sense he was the highest and closest creature to Allah(SWT) not a god!!! We do not worship him rather we respect him for he is far greater than us and Allah is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY.... GREATER THAN him(SAW)
  24. Thank you for informing me i will try and get back to u as soon as possible if i can..hard to find a way to prove it i mean..like i cant get the orignal herbrew becaus i would kno it myself and also do not have handy a hebrew dictionary..so i will try my best i will contact the writer of all that information and ask him but also here is another site that may help show Islam is the true religon http://www.themodernreligion.com/comparati...t/bible_muh.htm
  25. Well recently i have recieved and anti-Islamic comic so to say where a man(who is the perfect arab muslim streatype) and a christian man who argue and in the end the muslim denounces his faith and becomes "REBORN" ironically the man who gave it to me was reborn also he had gotten really drunk in his hotel and boom in cmae Christ and he was saved....Muslims(Shias actually) say bring them not with ur tounge but through ur actions this is how a muslim gets people to convert.. well i have decided to show my Chritian members of this site a few verses from their own book and see what they have to say...I KNOW THIS IS LONG SO JUST READ SOME OF THE QUOTES AND IM NOT SURE ON THE VALIDITY OF THESE QUOTES SO I BET A CHRITIAN BROTHER WILL CHECK THEM FOR ME AND RESPOND...AND JUST READ THE LAST QUOTE IF U DUNT WANT TO READ ANY IT TELLS OF HUSSAIN IN THE BIBLE!!!!!! SALAAM Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (KJV) " When it is handed to one who cannot read, with the request, " Read this" he replies, " I cannot read" (NAB) a member had said how was the Qu'ran written if Muhammad(SAW) couldnt read people did it for him but he was illetrate b4 prophecy not after wards for he read the Qu'ran almost always Muhammad by name: Song of Solomon 5:16 His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. The phrase "he is altogether lovely" reads in the Hebrew, as "he is Mahamaddim." The Hebrew word Mahamaddim. The ending letters ‘im’ is a plural of respect and majesty just as in Elohim (the God). Without ‘im’ the name becomes Muhammad, which was translated as "altogether lovely" in the Authorised Version of the Bible or 'The Praised One', 'the one worthy of Praise.' In Arabic, Muhammad means the one who is most praised. Bible tells us about Ismaaeel: Genesis 17:20 And as for Ismaaeel I have heard thee: behold, I have blessed him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly Nation of Ismaaeel Great nations, Zamzam in the Bible Genesis 21:17-21 (17) And God heard the boy's cry; and God's messenger called Hagar from heaven: What is the matter, Hagar? Don't be afraid; God heard the boy's cry. (18) Arise, lift up the boy, and hold him by the hand; for I will make of him a great nation. . (19) And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and let the boy drink. (20) And God was with the boy; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer. (21) And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt. Who are the Nation of Ishmaeel, son of Ibrahim? Are they not Muslims? Definitely, they are Muslims. Bible tells us about the prophethood at Arabia: Isaiah 21:13-17 (13) The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim. (14) The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled. (15) For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war. (16) For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail: (17) And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it. Who fled? Muhammad (pbuh) and His companions were fled from Makkah, from the drawn swords, and from the grievousness of war. Within one year who's glory had failed and who had diminished and where? Bible tells us glory of Kedar shall fail and the mighty men of the children of Kedar shall be diminished. Who is Kedar? Kedar is a forefather of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). And the mighty men of the children of Kedar were diminished in the battle of BADAR within one year exactly. A Prophet From Among Their Brethren Our Lord! And raise up in their midst a messenger from among them who shall recite unto them Thy revelations, and shall instruct them in the Scripture and in wisdom and shall make them grow. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Mighty, Wise. ( Baqarah 2:129) Ismaaeel brother of Ishaaq. Ibraaheem prayed with his son Ismaaeel for a Messenger to come among the children of Ismaaeel from them. God said to Moses: Deuteronomy 18:18 "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deut.18: 18. Among their Brethren” It is very clear that, here God was addressing banee Israeel, so no doubt their brethren are banee Ismaaeel, the Arabs. Prophet Like Moses : ask any Christian, "To whom does this prophecy refer?" answer will be "JESUS!" ask him "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer will be: " first of all Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET. Therefore, Jesus is like Moses. If that is all so why you do not fit this criteria to any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL Jews as well as Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Surely there will be no reply. Jesus is unlike Moses (1) According Christian faith 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. (2) According Christian faith 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE - WORLD', but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. (3) According Christian faith 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Muhammad is like Moses ( S.A.W) Father and Mother (1) "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhammad also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Miraculous Birth : (2) "Moses and Muhammad were born a natural birth but Jesus was created by a special miracle. Marriage Ties (3) "Moses and Muhammad married and begot children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Jesus was rejected by his own People (4) "Moses and Muhammad were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. But according to the Bible- 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, after two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejected him. No New Laws (6) "Moses and Muhammad brought new laws and new regulations for their people. But Jesus said himself: 'THINK NOT THAT I AM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: I AM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL.' (Mathew 5:17-18). In other words, he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old one. How they Departed (7) "Both Moses and Muhammad died natural deaths, but according to Christian faith, Jesus was violently killed on the cross. Heavenly Abode (8) "Moses and Muhammad both were buried in earth, but according to Christian faith, Jesus in heaven. (The Choice) "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhammad is like Moses. " a witness from banee Israeel testifies on his similarity, (al-Quraan 46:10) He shall speak in my name Deut.18: 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. The evidence for 'he shall speak in my name': Every Surah (Chapter) of the Quraan, except the ninth, begins with the words: "In The Name of Allaah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful." I will put my words in his mouth God said: And I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deut.18: 18. Allaah says about Muhammad (pbuh): Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) Desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him ( al-Quraan 53 : 3-4) One of the numerous examples of '...and I will put my words into his mouth...' is mentioned below from the Quraan; the verses begin with the word 'Say': "Say (O Muhammad): He Is Allaah the One and Only; Allaah, the Eternal, Absolute; He Begetteth Not, nor Is He Begotten: And There Is None like unto Him. (Quraan 112:1-4) Revelation piece by piece Isaiah 28:10-13 The glorious Quraan was revealed piece by piece in 23 years. (10) For he says command on command, command on command, rule on rule, rule on rule, here a little, there a little! (11) For with stammering lips and in a strange language he will speak to this people. (12) To whom he said, This is the resting place, give rest to the weary; here is repose but they would not listen. (13) So for them the word of the LORD shall be: command on command, command on command, rule on rule, rule on rule, here a little, there a little! I will send him unto you John 16:7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if, I go not away, the comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. Yes Jesus had to LEAVE not die but had to leave so that the final Prophet shall be able to come and here are the proofs from ur own book should u not see cleary then ur doomed!!! And Hussain is mentioned is the Bible also not by name but it is him who they speak of. I think it is in Jer.(Jerimaiah i have not clue but i think my Christian brothers know) 46:10 "For this day the Lord God of Hosts, a day of Vengance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiated made drunk with their blood for the Lord God of Hosts hath a Sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates"
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