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Patient Warrior

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  1. I'm going to be a bit more harsher in my advice than my brothers. But why do you care? If somebody who I assume was a practicing Shia decides to embrace the path that Shaytan paved for them, then I look forward to God's promise and punishment for them.

    If I had found any fault in Shia theology I would've left long ago. The amount of mental gymnastics and incorrect assumptions/conclusions your friend jumped to is too infuriating to even write a response to. (Hint: He's wrong on every point).

    Cut this person off, you're not to be held accountable for someone who rejects the signs of the lord. "Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment." (2:7)

  2. 3 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

    I think this is horrifying if this kind of belief is spread among the majority of Sunnis. Do salafis generally belief in this? 

    It's hilarious to see a man dismissed as a lunatic by his peers return to the mainstream hearts of the Sunni demographic. But yes to answer your question they interpret certain quranic verses to indicate God's physical characteristics. They also have hadith that describe God in a similar fashion to the Christians I.E. made in His image. Another hadith is that He will reveal himself on the Day of Judgement with Muhammad on one side and Muawaiya on the other.

    Quite funny in my opinion.

  3. 3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

    I find Shamsi to be annoying and irritating but he brought up some very good points here against Bob The Builder


    Man I did not miss this guys voice. But yeah good points. I still find it ridiculous that modern argument looks back at a society 1500 years old and criticizes customs. Only to spin their own ridiculous and degrading values. :confused:

  4. On 8/25/2021 at 10:33 AM, Abdul-Hadi said:

    But nobody cares what I think. I'm not an elite Georgetown liberal who went to Harvard.

    They only care what you think when you regurgitate what they've been promoting.

    Can anyone confirm these rumors I'm hearing by the way? I heard that the Taliban has been going to Shia events and showing solidarity with them for Muharram? Some Iraqis have been posting videos of this all over my parents facebooks. Not saying that these thugs are redeemable but in the event they establish some trust or boundaries with Shia that go beyond just cutting their heads off. Well then I can at least call that somewhat good news?

  5. 2 hours ago, notme said:

    If you're in the United States and not totally disengaged from government, look into The People's Party. It's not perfect, but it's so much better than the Democratic or Republican Parties.

    Sad reality is that the game is so rigged that any 3rd party candidates will never get representation. Not even invited to debates and usually they stir up a small crowd before completing the pattern by dropping out and endorsing whichever Democrat or Republican aligns with their view.

    2 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

    My main reason why I am anti-communism is because communism, specifically orthodox Marxism, is anti-religion. If Communism could drop the militant atheist thing, it wouldn't be nearly as bad in my eyes.

    Communism doesn't work. What we need is regulated capitalism and a strong socialist system implemented for those finding it hard to compete in the free market. I.E. welfare, foodstamps etc. In which we DON'T we don't make people welfare dependent by immediately cutting them off the moment they start saving up or doing well. Absolutely ridiculous.

    I just want a libertarian approach. The government should only really get involved for those who can't speak for themselves like animals, children, elderly with dementia etc. It should be a pillar to lean on if needed not a damn burden on everyone's shoulders.

  6. 5 hours ago, lover said:

    Even if the government has collapsed, there are currently some resistance cells against the Taliban. Please remember to pray for them that they win and beat the Taliban at least in those areas. I hope the Taliban can never reign over all of Afghanistan.

    Won't keep my hopes up. That entire country just became a failed state. Worst of all if other countries begin to acknowledge the Taliban as a legitimate government forefront which they will because of this peaceful transition of power, then nobody is going to do anything.

    They'll probably just milk the situation as a way of further destabilizing the middle east. Because we know Sunni extremism doesn't stop at borders.

  7. Patience till next year?

    But no seriously, set a goal for yourself in one year time. Try to have a dramatic change in your motivation, discipline, personality and soul. Do it for the sake of Prophet Muhammad and his family (Peace be upon them). This way Inshallah when you're doing Ziyarah for Imam Ali ((عليه السلام).) on Eid Al-Ghadeer, you can be proud of the man the Ahlulbayt has made you.  

  8. 3 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

    Salamn backbiting about both of these two groups is wrong because according to Imam Ali (عليه السلام) : people are two groups one group is your brother in faith & other group is same as you in creation .

    Shia say this but it's almost impossible to socialize nowadays without bringing up someone else is affairs. Refusal to participate ostracizes you and usually you become the center of their gossip in their next conversation. Every single gathering is the same of just sitting there serving tea and listening to politics, gossip, whose graduated, whose gotten married/divorced, bought a house, got a promotion etc.

    I'm seeing this a lot with the Arab community but less so with Americans I interact with funny enough.

    OP, try to break the cycle by not participating in it regardless of who's being targeted; Shia or not.

  9. 6 hours ago, Zaidism said:

    The dispute of whether Mawla (مولا) means Ally or Master is more than a 10 centuries old dispute between the followers of Imam Ali (ع) and the followers of the Khulafa. This has fractured the very core of this Ummah until today.

    It's more absurd to me that people believe the Prophet gathered all the chief Arabs so that he could tell them Ali was his friend. :hahaha:

  10. No they're not. 

    Reference Sistani's Q/A; 

    Question: Is it permissible for men to wear white or yellow gold?

    Answer: It is not permissible for men to wear gold objects, even though the gold may be white in color. Wearing gold plated objects is also not allowed and prayer wearing gold would not be valid for men. However, there is no problem in wearing something made of platinum.


    I have also heard of hadith from the Imams cursing men that wear gold. 

  11. 1 hour ago, slavelight said:

    which mosque and church supported this event? how could they have done such sellout, for what? are you sure about a mosque supporting them wearing that shirt?

    Don't have the names on me but I can find out. It was about two hours south in my state where our capitol building Is. So not local to where I'm from. But it was the all the talk of the arabs for a couple of weeks. Pretty positive it wasn't a Shia masjid though.

    I found a phone case that's pretty much identical to the shirt.


    Nvm found the shirt via google actually being sold on an atheist website; https://www.atheistrepublic.com/store/allah%2Bis%2Bgay%2Brainbow%2Bkaaba-A5e9032b91cbf3a24c8609cf9?productType=210&sellable=Zbra1LrzRVFGE8GBBDjE-210-7&appearance=1

    You can even google Muslim LGBT solidarity to see them sporting other gear. @Diazlinked a thread above highlighting this more.


  12. On 7/27/2021 at 11:27 AM, User 313 said:

    WHAT?! JESUS? THE KA’BAH?! How on Earth did the local church and mosque endorse this??!!

    I suspect fear of backlash. Mob mentality plays a critical role in tolerating the entire circus charade of blatant blasphemy. Cancel culture and social media exposure has organizations on their knees. Religion itself is going through a negative reform of sorts by today's generation. Conservative ideas are being targeted as halting progress etc.

    But shhhhh it's starting to sound like a conspiracy.

  13. On 7/26/2021 at 10:17 AM, starlight said:

    Yes, they are. 

    I am intolerant towards both.

    This is an excellent mindset. Majority of this alliance between LGBT and Muslims stems from a sense of community. This feeling of coming under one banner because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a fallacy built on predicates that contradict Shia Islam's core principles. We should always strive to tell God's truth regardless of whose feelings or identity is compromised.

    The actions of the LGBT community is a disease. It has brought society; gender confusion, public display of degeneracy, STDs, harming indoctrination of children, fear of cancel culture and blasphemy.

    OP, instead of alluding that the moderators should silence very reasonable voices maybe you should make an account and participate in those discussions. Since the topics are complete conspiracies and contradictory to Islam you should have no issue stating your case and completely dismantling the opposition.

    On 7/27/2021 at 5:34 AM, User 313 said:

    Propaganda at its finest. So disgusting honestly

    My cousin's son is in elementary and as for a school trip they took them to the capitol building of our state where they surprised them by participating in a Pride Rally event. The organizers were passing out shirts with both Christian and Muslim solidarity since the event was supported by a local Church and Mosque. Christian shirt had a picture of Jesus placing a homosexual couple's hands together. The Muslim shirt was the Ka'bah decorated with the LGBT flag and the statement that ended with a 3 letter word "Allah is ..." God forgive us.

    I was told the PTA meeting was met with joy by most parents.

  14. 27 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    jihad al akbar comes first.

    I agree with you. But If we were to observe this from a logical standpoint this is the outcome;

    Jihad Al-Akbar is a requirement upon every single Muslim. "Children of Adam, did I not command you not to serve Satan, for he was your sworn enemy" 36:60. This battle is mandatory upon you and me until death over takes us. This isn't a sacrifice as much as it a large portion of being Muslim. You can't just take this definition and use the "Akbar" vs "Asghar" argument to show that it trumps the other. Even after re observing Imam Khomeini's book on the matter he never states this. You obviously will be participating in one more than the other. Now by definition I've literally stated that it is a subset to performing Jihad Al-saif since one is compulsory and the other is not unless called upon an Imam to participate.

    Once again because you never quoted it; "This starts from detachment of life, ambition and luxury". This is important and must be reinstated because in order to participate in a Jihad Al-Saif you must demonstrate obedience to God and the willingness to sacrifice the most valuable thing an individual possesses which is his life. Often these kinds of opportunities present when the easier route would be to ignore and be patient.

    Again I'm going to say it; you're doing a huge disservice to the Shuhadat that have demonstrated mastery of Jihad Sabil Allah.


    The Holy Prophet (S) said: "No drop is more beloved with Allah, Almighty and Glorious, than the drop of blood which is poured in the way of Allah.

    Wasa'il-ush Shi'ah, vol. 15, p. 14


    The Holy Prophet (S) said: "There is a goodness above any goodness until when a believing person, (fighting against the enemies of Islam who slaughter Muslims), is killed in the way of Allah, Almighty and Glorious, then there is no goodness above it."

    Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 10, p. 100


    44 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    Putting jihad al-saif over jihad al-nafs seems like a transgression of its limits, for the Qur'an says later: 

    The context of this entire thread has been about self-defense? I haven't observed anyone here speak otherwise. So I'm unsure what you're trying to demonstrate with the remainder of the ayat. None of us are advocating for the Salafi ideology of Jihad of attacking first.


    45 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    This is the flaw of Salafist thought and people like Sayyid Qutb who seem to think jihad is an excuse to kill and murder the "kuffar".

    (See above) I've made my points clear. I'm not advocating for anything beyond the reasonable and what Allah has deemed appropriate and loved in his eyes.

    46 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    Clearly I'm not, however I am wary of the fact that you are really fixated on jihad al-saif and overstating its' importance. 

    I'll just regurgitate my previous point here so again see above. There is no greater honor than to die in the path of Allah. There's a reason martyrs have a higher position than those who weren't on the day of judgement. Don't forget our entire religion is built on the predicate that the Mahdi will return and instate Allah's justice. Do you think this will be done with peaceful assemblies and debates? We the Shia are not in the wrong for ever defending our Ummah but obviously this must be done within the margins we both defined earlier.

  15. 17 hours ago, starlight said:

    What other category of me is out there,especially in the younger generation?

    I'd say scholars, natural born leaders and masculine mumineen are definitely out there among our youth. The same way not every woman is like the ones that I interact with; full of vanity, malevolence, manipulators, degenerates and gold diggers. We shouldn't deal with absolutes even if sometimes generalization is called for. It only takes one counter example to nullify a universal quantifier.

    17 hours ago, starlight said:

    It's not just women empowerment, I fail to see any strong men too but most of all it's the breakdown of the family structure that's the culprit. I absolutely loathe the nuclear family system. There is no guidance or care from elders but more than that children grow up lacking essential skills like taking care of family members and mutual tolerance. People never learn how to hold a family together through the ups and downs of life and this manifests later as divorces and abandonment of children.

    It's a serious problem on both sides of the genders and there are many factors contributing to this divide that we're seeing. Masculinity and femininity are being redefined. I attribute this to the activities of feminists and LGBT blurring those lines. Nobody is willing to bring up the true attributes that makes a partner attractive and appealing because it boils down to sexism. Thus the nuclear family is being expunged at an alarming rate.

    This generation has to deal with the technological revolution and its ramification on social conventions and interactions. I return again to social media because it seriously has changed the dynamic in which one is capable of outreaching to multiple people.

    17 hours ago, starlight said:

    I was talking to some colleagues and was shocked to learn how common extra marital affairs are amongst married women these days.

    Saw a study that showed quite a large portion of American children today are wrong about who their biological father is. Cheating has become the norm and sometimes would be overlooked because it was the partner who was lacking. I've seen that reverse uno card played several times.

  16. 35 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    Funny how you are describing the lesser jihad as a "holy war", which implies a religious sanctioned offensive or terrorism as Orientalists, big media and Islamophobes would have people erroneously believe about jihad, totally skipping the fact that it is self-defense or it's limitations. 

    I think the phrase holy war fits extremely well in this context as per its definition. Should I care about what they say? You don't fight propaganda by saving face. You clearly understand what I'm getting at and I don't find myself needing to censor my words. I'm also sure you aren't suggesting we water down the book of Allah? I will always choose my creator and his satisfaction over those of my fellow man.

    O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them.  (9:73).

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth» (9:29).

    By the way no where in this entire discussion has anyone advocated for the death or harm to any innocents. It's made very clear the limitations of Jihad.

    Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. (2:190)

    35 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    You're absolutely right, there is no comparison. Al-Jihad al-Akbar is the greater struggle, it trumps Jihad bis Saif, which is a lesser form of Jihad.

    I disagree, Jihad al-nafs is a subset of jihad al-saif. You cannot perform Jihad al-saif without first being willing to die in the path of Allah. This starts from detachment of life, ambition and luxury. Ultimately what Jihad al Nafs is. Drawing from basic logic here but the point I believe stands firm. Quran 3:142 seems to be clear about the distinction between those who perform jihad and those who choose to stay steadfast and that is from the tafsir of Sayid Kamil Faqih Imani.



  17. On 7/16/2021 at 9:51 AM, notme said:

    And men are the protectors of women, so if they are doing their God-given job as protector, they will avoid putting their women and children in this terrible, tragic, and vulnerable situation whenever possible. 

    Wisdom is what is necessary. 

    Duty to God trumps that of the family. Karbala is an excellent example of this. Many instances of individuals sacrificing their children and beloved for the sake of Allah.

    On 7/16/2021 at 3:41 PM, notme said:

    But wisdom and common sense are necessary until the Imam reveals himself and takes reign over the ummah. 

    This kind of mindset can be attributed to all the suffering in the world. We should NOT take the stance of Evangelists who are awaiting the Messiah and encouraging the violence by abstaining from actions that show resistance to the face of tyranny.

    On 7/16/2021 at 9:51 AM, notme said:

    Do you know why our Imams, peace be upon them, didn't always fight? Because dying for no benefit is not beneficial. I'm not even sure it counts as martyrdom to self-sacrifice for nothing. 

    I'd argue the majority of Imams didn't fight because they were predestined to keep the spirit of Islam alive. Their lives must be cherished above all else since they are predestined to pass the banner down to the Mahdi. Without them the true traditions of Islam would've died. However a lot of them actively oversought campaigns of Jihad; Muhktar and Imam Zaid are perfect examples of this. They also practiced Taqqiyah to distance themselves from rebellious Shia. This was absolutely mandatory upon them. It is the duty of the Muslims to be on the frontlines of such engagements not the Imams.

    But that's neither here or there. You're advocating for wisdom and patience but I'm sure you would agree wisdom in these kinds of scenario is more preparation than abstinence.

    20 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

    Only a weak-minded person would somehow believe this generalization to be true; Both men and women partake in the greatest jihad of all: jihad al-nafs. It is an universal part of the human experience. 

    There's definitely something to be said about the difference between perception on war between men and women. The jihad al-nafs is pretty irrelevant to the topic at hand and it is not equivalent to the jihad of the battlefield. Unless you're willing to quote a hadith that contradicts the quran. Those who perform Jihad of holy war have already mastered jihad al-nafs. There is no greater state than detachment of the material and the willingness to sacrifice ones life for the pleasure of Allah. You do disservice to our martyrs by undermining that.

  18. 1 hour ago, Ali bin Hussein said:

    A large part of Islam was built on violence.

    It's sort of sad that Muslims become ashamed of this. Never once has Islam proclaimed to be a religion of peace. That in itself was a rise of Western Marja who aimed to battle the propaganda against Islam post 9-11. It's a religion of justice. That means treating tyrants, oppressors, criminals, thugs and war mongers the way they deserve to be treated. Human nature IS brutal and violent. We've been raping, sex trafficking, lynching, killing and pillaging since the dawn of our inception. People tend to forget that this wasn't long ago simply because we live cushioned in Western countries. Hell, it's happening in destabilized countries right now as we speak.

    Being a pacifist is hated by Islam.

    5 hours ago, MexicanVato said:

    Then choose to lay down if the government does ever become tyrannical to the level the Nazis and communists have done. I’ll take my chances. I rather die on my feet than on my knees. 

    No Muslim should accept anything less than freedom. It is our God given right and we've seen how the powers of the world and the parties of Shaitan love to decimate the Shia.

    3 hours ago, notme said:

    In any "western" country if Muslims are attacked, our only reasonable action would be migration. But to where? Nowhere in this world is good, just different kinds of bad. 

    I mean absolutely no disrespect, but this could just stem from the mindset that you're a woman. The majority of refugees and victims of offset war fighting tend to be women and children. History also shows us that women will take roles such as war brides in order to assimilate and avoid death for them and their families. In context of evolutionary psychology women are much more adept than men are at surviving these kinds of dilemmas. However what I think @MexicanVato is saying is the value of martyrdom supersedes all reason. Since it is the ultimate sacrifice to God and philosophically the best state a human can reach with absence of fear in death and attachment to this world, we should always advocate for it, no Shia should hesitate in this manner. As a mother I would infer that your role is to instill that kind of mindset in your own children someday.

  19. 2 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

    I am making a serious argument, at least give a serious rebuttal instead of accusations and mockery.

    I raised some pretty good points in the other thread. Could you please address them?

    56 minutes ago, Mahdavist said:

    I doubt your government feels directly threatened by armed civilians. I can't recall the last time anyone tried to use guns against them.

    That's because nothing has happened just yet to provoke the masses. Life right now in the states is relatively good. Apply enough pressure and you'll see the results.


  20. 3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

    What is the sword of the future? A WMD? A serious question.

    Since neither of us can predict the future this question is irrelevant. Just like the swordsman of old could never have predicted the gun slingers of today. But shoot, I’ll give it a try.

    Ray guns. I’m calling it.

    WMD aren’t just weapons. They’re more so deterrents to be used to intimidate nations. Not fit to be compared to guns.

    Kinda interesting how the US is interested in making sure nobody else has access to nukes though, huh?

    3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

    Do you think there should be a limit to how powerful a personal weapon should be? If there is a limit then how will you defend against the state (your guns are useless compared to what the state has. It's almost a redundant argument.)? If there is no limit then how will you keep the people safe?

    No. The second amendment is meant to give individuals access to weapons of war. Not just for hunting or recreational shooting. The limit of this weapon’s power should be the same as an assigned soldier’s capabilities. But we already have restrictions on  certain bullet types and bans on military issued assault rifles. (I.E. M4 or M16) so whatever.

    3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

    how will you keep the people safe?

    What do you mean how will we keep the people safe? We have the means to fight back violently. Don’t be naive.

    3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

    Also elaborate upon why and how the state may attack you.

    Have you just never studied history? I seriously am baffled. Start with Kristallnacht or Katanagari. The governments of the world and history have track records of abusing and killing their own people for a plethora of agendas. I really hope your faith in the government doesn’t stem from you believing that because you pay taxes you’re entitled. If given a decree the police and soldiers of any state would massacre you like sheep. That goes for ANY country.

    And before anyone raises the point that armed citizens won’t stand a chance. Terrence Popp who’s an ex US army delta special forces soldier had studied unconventional warfare for decades stated “It only takes 3% of a population to over throw an occupying military force.”

    I believe you’re tremendously underestimating guerrilla war. Like I said the citizens must have the ability to keep their government in check as well. That can only be done by having access to the same weapons.

  21. 2 hours ago, MexicanVato said:

    Have you or your family talked to the guy? I hate the liberal whiny phrase of gun nuts. Look if you’re a male and are oppose to guns you’re soft like a pin cushion. I know many Muslims that pack pistols and rifles. We mean no harm it’s for our protection.

    100% agree. The individual should have access to firearms/weapons of war and make the most out of it. Go to the range, educate yourself on bullets, caliber, cleaning-kits and on its usage with laws in states that have 'Stand your ground' implemented. It's literally the modern sword.

    Tyranny is always around the corner when citizens are stripped of weapons. The people keep the government in check just as much as vice versa.

  22. 15 hours ago, Ali bin Hussein said:

    Shia fight in the way of Allah when we have the leadership.

    I'd go a step further and say even this is not necessary. Justice doesn't require enlightenment in order to combat oppression. Fighting in the way of Allah shouldn't require a fatwa. It's simply the duty of every Muslim to protect his Ummah. If we kept this sort of mentality alive, we would never see the suffering of our brothers/sisters across the globe.


    2 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

    are stressing proper guidance, proper leadership, Jihad an-Nafs, defensive jihad, proper Islamic combative engagement etc

    Eh. But not at the cost of the role of the Shia on the front lines. Yes Jihad an-Nafs is important but to I strongly dislike the logic or the quoting of weak hadith to suggest that a Muslim who struggles in the way of Allah at home is the same as the one on the battlefield.

    Or do you think that you will enter Paradise while Allah has not yet made evident those of you who fight in His cause and made evident those who are steadfast? (3:142)

    6 hours ago, Ali bin Hussein said:

    Although it maybe the clip needs to be seen in the greater context of the lecture.

    Perhaps, but I already dislike the vibe that it's doubling down on Islam being a religion of peace and patience, Instead of one that advocates justice and the battling of tyrants.

    Quick Note to add: This isn't to dismay the patience shown by the Imams who chose to live peacefully and quietly. Truth is that if they didn't take their route there would be no Shia Islam today. But we're far past the truth ever being able to be buried again.

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