Abu_zar

I have a question for all. I have seen that all the learned people of the camp opposing Islamic/shiite beliefs name some scholars/leaders/clerics of shiite nation and argue against them. But I have not read/heard any western/anti islamic philosopher/leader/cleric/writer even mentioning Mr. Ahmad al Hassan. Even if I may have missed one or two such occasion, they are still far less than, for example Ahmedi Najjad, Ayatollah Khomeinei, Ayatollah Khomeini, Ayatollah Seestani etc. It has been about a decade since Mr. Ahmad al Hassan started his work. Yet he has not even been recognised in literary/political circles is something very worrying. If he claims to be superior to people mentioned above, he must have attained more recognition than them. But the fact is that his recognition is practically non-existant. Can someone please tell me why????? Abuzar

Who did Allah made ashraful makhlooqat? Human being (neither shias nor muslims but human being. Why did Allah make humans ashraful makhlooqat? Because of his ability to intellectually interpret the facts, put everything at its place and do excellent decision making. Not because he would copy and insist on illogical statements being correct simply because the narrators have been in line of their own faith. And man did all this. He invented so many things, flying objects, stored electricity, lit huge buildings, transformed hot and cold climates into locally comfortable weather, invented vehicles to travel fast, phones, computers, internet and wifi, to communicate all over the world, discovered great theories of classical physics, relativity, quantum physics, uncertainty principle, laws of thermodynamics, discovered elements and their bonds and combinations, found the wonders of subatomic world, discovered the microscopic living objects causing infection and found their and other disease's treatment, discovered and developed organ transplantation, anaesthesia, operations, pain killers, stem cell therapy, genetic engineering. He learnt socialising and developing cultures and civilisation. He learnt to derive lessons from history and developed laws to tell us the direction a particular set of events will take. He developed theories of truth, rationalism, empiricism, pragmatism and so on. I find that Islam, in particular Quran and Nehjul Balagha particularly give messages that knowledge, intellect and thinking faculties must be given supreme values when analysing and efforts made to reach the bottom of the truth. Hence I do not think that dreams or visions should be made basis for religious believes, nor I accept that istikhara will tell you if you should follow a particular person or ideology. We are all aware of lucid dreaming where all sort of dreams can be seen, sometimes even techniques are used to see a dream. I also do not find it in line with Quranic teachings or logic when people say that if someone comes in dream and claims or gives impression of being a prophet or imam, the he has to be a prophet or imam. Apart from some weak ahdith, this is not proven by Quran and it is also against scientific understanding of human mind and brain. It is also against common sense. The dreams seen by infallibles or interpreted by them are of course different from dreams seen or interpreted by any Tom, Richard and harry, no matter what or who he sees. Hence I disagree with statements like the followings: “When a woman sent him (Mr. Ahmad Al-Hassan) a question about the shortest way of knowing if Imam Ahmad Al-Hassan is right, He said: “The shortest way to believe in the unseen is the unseen (Ghaib), ask Allah after you fast three days and make Tawassul by the righteousness of Fatima bint Mohammed (sua) to know the right from Allah by Roaya (vision seen in sleep mentioned many in Quran especially Surat Yousef), or Kashif (same as Roaya but while you are awake) or by any Aya from His Al-Might's Ghaib Malakoot Ayat.” Similarly I see that people are making "efforts" redundant and replacing them with istikhara. This is in total contradiction to Quran which say that "Allah does not change the state of a nation, unless it makes efforts to do so", similarly it is said that "it is up to me to make efforts and up to God to grant success", or "human being does not get except what he strives for" etc. etc. Hence I believe that seeing istikhara like opening Quran or using tasbeeh for istikhar are wrong until full efforts have not been made. Basing one's beliefs on istikhara is totally wrong. If it made any sense, Hazrat Ali a.s would have asked people at the time of wars of Jamal and safeen to see istikhara and base their beliefs on outcome. He did not. Imam Husain a.s also did not. No imam of prophet asked for such a thing because this is against God's teaching. Human being must use knowledge, intellect and wisdom to analyse and reach decision. If someone claims to be an infallible, the onus lies on him to prove and make progress on following 4 fronts: 1. That he has ilm e ladunni and he knows languages and facts that he should not be knowing. 2. That he is aware of entire human progress in science, technology, philosophy and social sciences and discuss with experts of each faculty based on knowledge and books of that faculty (like imam Ali a.s and other imams claim that they will argue with people of other religions based on books of God brought by their own prophets). 3. That he makes a great difference in advancement of human knowledge and provide guidance about dark matter, dark energy, overcoming the problems of rejection in transplantation, breakthrough treatment for viral infection and cancers, uniting the electromagnetic and weak nuclear forces with strong nuclear forces and gravitational forces, amalgamating the quantum and classical physics, and other mysteries surrounding mankind of 21st century. 4. That he fights and at least begins to defeat the exploiting imperialistic forces. Please do not use dream technique (even if you have seen divine personalities in your dream, it could be lucid dream and does not prove anything) and istikhara as the modern scientific world is well aware of the limitation of these illogical arguments and nobody will take you seriously otherwise.

What are you talking about? Adding any living scholar is dangerous because he can speak his mind. How would it look for someone who add a living ayatollah in his list of blessings and the ayatollah comes out openly and denounces the person. This risk does not arise if the list contains only 4 or 5 dead scholars.Please do not take it personally. This policy is not against your beloved Ayatollah Seestani. There are 100-150 grand scholars in Wikipedia. None of them qualifies for the list of blessing for two reasons. First, scholars always fail to understand their view point and it is necessary not to have much knowledge to join their group. Second unlike dead scholars, living scholars are capable of responding to this issue and therefore dangerous. Abuzar

There is no group of learned people, be it religious, philosophical or any other, who would pass blanket condemnation to all scholars. If anyone does, it is so stupid that it is not worth answering. Now out of top 1000 shia scholars, how many's wisdom make them believe Mr. Ahmad al Hassan? Or is it only those, ignored, partly literate people who have not been able to find attention anywhere else who gathered around him to find some attention (a union of those deprived academically and in all other respects). Quran and Hadiths are full of praise for knowledge and scholars. If you accept shia religion a true one, then its scholars have to be respected too. Now why is it that Mr. Ahmad al hassan and his Ansars only find a handful of late scholars worthy of praise. Simply because they can not come and denounce him. Still even they believed in lot of things considered haram by Mr. Ahmad al hassan like taqleed of fallible. And finally it has been over two months since I posted questions in many forums to give Mr. Ahmad al hassan a chance to prove his ilm e ladunni. Unfortunately, he still has not found time to answer them. I must say, I am getting desperate. Can his Ansars remind him to spend two minutes of his time to answer those questions and prove his ilm e ladunni? Abu_zar

It is sad that you have totally disregarded what Hazrat Ali a.s. went through to avoid creating disunity. When Abu Sufyan asked him to rise for his right and promised to fill the streets of Medina with soldiers to fight for Hazrat Ali a.s., what was his reply? When Hazrat Ali compiled the Quran that had ayats arranged chronologically, and others arranged Quran in present form, why did he not publish it in his khilafat? Simply because he did not want muslims to be divided and have two Qurans. Please do not disregard our twelve imams efforts to unite the umma. They never attacked all the scholars and scholars never attacked them like it is happening with Mr. Ahmad al Hassan. Abu_zar If you start counting how many hadeeth say that there will be 12 imams in total, or there will be 11 sons of Ali a.s and Fatima a.s as imam, you will lose count. For each hadeeth you quote, there will be 100s of hadeeth mentioning only 12 imams in total. I looked at Kamaluddin only and gave up as the number is too large. The ones you quote, must be an occasion where someone either messed up the number or there was an error inquotation as we know has occurred time and again with ahadeeths. Do you not ask yourself what the huge number of ahadeeths citing 12 imams in total telling you? Do you not ask yourself why Imam Muhammad Baquar a.s and imam Jafar Sadiq a.s meant when they said that 12 Mehdis will not be imams? Please stop debating for the sake of debating and stop looking at books just to find something to go with your side of argument. Start looking for truth, consistency and overall policies. Though looking at the sort of argument you are giving, I do not think you will do that. Abu_zar

God forbid. Who are you comparing with who. This is true example of injustice. Imams had a history Hazrat Ali was son of Hazrat Abu Talib a.s, grandson of Hazrat Abdul Mutallib a.s, cousin and son in law of holy prophet (saww), husband of Hazrat Fatima (a.s), father of imam Hassan a.s and imam Husain a.s.. Such relationships go right up to 12th imam a.s. There is no dispute in that. Not even from the most bitter enemy. Does Mr. Ahmad al Hassan have such undisputed history. All imams had an undisputed character, verified by relatives, neighbours, friends and even enemies. We do not know Mr. Ahmad al Hassan's character. We do not even know his relatives, neighbours or school records. All imams a.s. had ilm e ladunni. They invited and answered questions. Mr. Ahmad al Hassan avoids questions. Imams have record of holding munazara with people of all walks of life. Mr. Ahmad al Hassan claims to challenge munazara to scholars. Yet when I request him to meet me and answer questions on live TV, he does not accept. Why? If he can answer, he has a chance to impress millions of people. Imams a.s. had great contributions to knowledge and human development even within restrictions. Mr. Ahmad al Hassan has no such contribution in more than a decade. Can you people not see what is so obvious. Abu_zar

Why do you call Mr. Ahmad al Hassan imam? If you consider him first Mehdi, you must know that a hadeeth, propagated and quoted much by ansars, prohibits calling him imam. Now do not tell me that it is same as imam Khmeini. No Hadeeth has stopped calling Ayatollah Khomeini or even the prayers leading scholar of my local mosque, as imam. But our 5th and 6th imam has specifically said in a hadeeth quoted on the very front of www.the-savior.com: And about Abu Baseer said: (("I told Al Sadiq, Ja'far Bin Mohammad (A.S), “O son of the Prophet, I once heard your father (A.S) saying that after the Qa'em there shall be twelve Imams”, and then he corrected, “He actually said twelve Mahdis and not twelve Imams. They are from our followers (Shiite), who shall call upon people to support us and identify our right.”)) Kamal Al Din (Perfectionism of Religion) chapter 2, page 358. If we look at the mood of this hadeeth, we immediately realize that imam a.s is playing down the importance of Mehdis. He says that “they are from our followers (Shiite), who shall call upon people to support us and identify our right.” Six points are very clear from this hadeeth: Mehdis are from imam's followers, i.e. (Shiite), and not from Imam. Now count from Hazrat Salman Farsi to yourself. Mehdis will be from them. But do not count imams. Mehdis will not be from them.If you think that Shiites are infallible, Mehdis will be infallible. If you think Shiites are fallible, Mehdis will be fallible. If you think that not having eeman and bay’at on Shiite is a great sin, then not having eeman and bay’at on Mehdis is also a great sin. If you think not having eeman and bay’at on a Shiite is not a great sin, then not having eeman and bay’at on Mehdis is also not a great sin. [*]Mehdis shall call upon people to support imam and identify their right. Full stop. Mehdis will be among the Shiites whose functions is supporting and identifying rights of imam. That is it. [*]Imam specifically said that his father, also an imam “actually said twelve Mahdis and not twelve Imams”. This means Imam is asking very specifically not to call and address Mehdis as Imam. [*]Out of respect and obedience to Imam Muhammad Baqar a.s and Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s., we should not call anyone we think as one of twelve Mehdis as “Imam”. [*]Again out of respect and obedience to Imam Muhammad Baqar a.s and Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s., we should not consider anyone we think as one of twelve Mehdis as infallible like our Imams, but should consider them as fallible like imam’s followers (Shiite). [*]May Allah protect us from considering any of the 12 Mehdis coming after 12 imams as Imam or infallible and thereby defying the clear directions of Imam Muhammad Baqar a.s and Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s. Ameen Abuzar

I think that Mr. Ahmad al Hassan and his hard core ansars are winning by pulling us to salafi style of arguments. Something our aimmas never did. We know that the main element of islam portrayed by Quran and backed by 12 imams is to look at the deepest meaning of matter. I will put just 2 ayats of holy Quran and few sayings of abul aaimmaImam Ali a.s which give us policies and clearly guide us how to think and analyse: [but bear in mind:] never does their flesh reach God, and neither their blood: it is only your God-consciousness that reaches Him. True piety does not consist in turning your faces towards the east or the west [143] - but truly pious is he who believes in God, and the Last Day; and the angels, and revelation, [144] and the prophets; and spends his substance - however much he himself may cherish - it - upon his near of kin, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, [145] and the beggars, and for the freeing of human beings from bondage; [146] and is constant in prayer, and renders the purifying dues; and [truly pious are] they who keep their promises whenever they promise, and are patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril: it is they that have proved themselves true, and it is they, they who are conscious of God. And Imam Ali a.s has said: Do not see who is talking, but what is he talking. Better to sleep with surety than to pray with doubt in heart. Fasting of tongue is better than fasting of stomach and fasting of heart is better than fasting of tongue. And non followers of imam are bent to look at immediately obvious meanings without pondering and deep thinking. Just look at salafis who always consider obvious meaning as the most valid one and detest deep thinking and analysing hadeeths and ayats. Mr. Ahmad al Hassan's ansars have clearly moved the discussion to salafi style arguments. If we believe in Hazrat Ali a.s and other imams, we have to rise above the war of words and try to look at the matters pertinent to mankind and universe. It is pretty obvious that all of our imams have raised human awareness, knowledge and thinking to the highest level within a short span of even one year of his life. Whereas Mr. Ahmad al Hassan has done nothing more than dividing the shiites in a whole decade. As I can see, Mr. Ahmad al Hassan is taking his ansars away from the path guided by imams and they are dragging the true shiites with them. It may be better that we concentrate on reading and discussing Quran and Kutub e Arbia and let this part of history meet its natural course as so many before this have met. As for ansars, they are of two type. Some are those who are bent to misguide the shiites intentionally with whom I feel no sympathy. Then there are those truly sincere, they seem to be under lot of peer pressure and love for what they have chosen. For them we should convey the paths and patterns of Imams a.s and pray for them. I would continue to request the ansars to find the answers to the questions I posted 1 1/2 months ago to prove ilm e ladunni of Mr. Ahmad al Hassan. Since every infallible has historically considered his duty to prove his place to the sincere truth seeking muslims. Abu_zar Then please tell me why he cannot answer my questions? Dear brother/son Ahmad. If shias are divided, they will be attacked from all fronts. If they lose they central figures pulling them to one point, they will not be able to gather themselves together. And if their scholars are ridiculed, they will be ridiculed themselves. Just ponder and think deeply. Is this what you want? Abu_zar

Dear sister, If I ask anyone questions whose definite answers I do not know, how will I judge if the answers given are right or wrong? Hence I asked Mr. Ahmad al Hassan 3 questions about 1 1/2 months ago and when brother Ahmed 313 asked me to send them at the-savior's mail, I sent those questions there too. I requested all Ansars to send them to Mr. Ahmad al Hassan and get me the answers. All I wanted then and want now is to establish if he is truly masoom and has ilm e ladunni. The questions were straightforward and not stupid or silly. Among all the characteristics of infallible, divine knowledge inspires me most. Many of our masoomeen came out answering even those who only questioned in a funny way and were not really seekers of truth. While I am asking with all due respect and genuinely want to establish if Mr. Ahmad al Hassan has divine knowledge. I am saying that Mr. Ahmad al Hassan is pro Al Khalifa, Pro Aal e Saood and pro kings of Kuwait, yemen UAE and all those who are really threatened by democracy. Besides I and other people in this forum are mere humble fallible who have their own opinion and may be wrong. Why do you imply that we must agree on everything? (Do not see who is saying, but concentrate on what is he saying- Hazrat Ali a.s)

OK Ahmad. Thanks for your question. My contest here is dear brother that if your stands/teaching writing are hurting someone, and benefitting someone persistently, it stands to reason that there has to be a reason behind it. I have posted it above and reposting again: Question: Who is Mr. Ahmad al Hassan hurting? He is hurting shia nation from many angles. The strength of a nation is broken if someone: Damages its ideologies (he is damaging the concept of infallibility, taqleed, merjaiyat, Wali e faqih). Damages its leadership (he has blamed every living ayatollah e uzma). Damages its centralisation and unity. (The nation was behind the leadership of marajay. He has accused them calling them non-practicing scholars etc.). Damages its financial resources. (Khums has been used to look after the interest of shiite islam. He has attacked it implanting doubts in people's mind so they do not pay khums to a central authority). Now 2nd part - who is Mr. Ahmad al Hassan benefitting? The terrible dictators of the world, aal e saood, the Kuwaiti, UAE, Al Khalifa and Yemenese President are deeply disliked by their countrymen. Hence when the world supports the demand that they must establish their legitimacy by going to their people and asking if the people support their government, these people, who are responsible for demolishing the Junnat ul Baqi, and killing of Bahraini & Yemenese brothers and raping of Bahraini sisters, find themselves in deep deep trouble. Guess who comes to their rescue? Mr. Ahmad al Hassan and his Ansars. Mr. Ahmad al Hassan has not written any book against Israel. He has not written any book against Aal e Saood. He has not written any book against killing of shia brothers in Bahrain & Yemen or against raping of shia sisters in these countries. However, he finds time to attack the looming threat to these middle eastern emperors and criminals, in his book "For the Supremacy of God and not the Supremacy of People". Why he decides to protect these enemies of Hazrat Fatima a.s, 4 imams, shia brothers and sisters is something very obvious. And my dear brother Ahmad and sister Green Lantern and all those Ansars who think they will escape easily at the day of judgement, please think again. By supporting Mr. Ahmad al Hassan, you are not only siding with someone supporting demolishing of Jannatul Baqi and killing of shia brothers & sisters, you are actually going to be responsible for more heinous acts of these kings who intend to demolish the roza of Holy Prophet and wipe away shia religion from the face of the earth. I sincerely hope you can rise above the "my stand and your stand" and rejoin shia muslim forces' struggle against the above criminals.

No I cant see it. I am follower of the man who said "salooni, salooni, qabla un tafqadooni" And those before him and after him (14 masoomeen) I have repeatedly sent Mr. Ahmad al Hassan requests to prove his ilm e ladunni by answering my 3 questions and I have requested his ansars to contact him and request him to let me find the truth. I really, really want to find if he has ilm e ladunni and do bay'at on him. Ahmed 313 guided me to send it to a certain address and I did. Still no answer. Why??? Is it because he does not want to guide a truth seeker? Or is it because he does not have ilm e ladunni? Another thing that disturbs me deeply is that why do his teachings are so much in line with those who have always tried to hurt shia-ism and shiites. Is it just a co-incidence???

As a child, my understanding of shiite islam started with: Allah: Aik (1) Panjetan: Paanch (5) Imam: Baara (12) Maasoom: Chauda (14) I believe, all shiite muslim can relate to that. Now I wonder, what would Ansaar of Mr. Ahmad al Hassan teach their children (or grand children)? Allah: Aik (1) Panjetan: Paanch (5) Imam: Baara (12) Maasoom: Pundra (15)????? Abu_zar

On the very front of www.the-savior.com we find the following: And about Abu Baseer said: (("I told Al Sadiq, Ja'far Bin Mohammad (A.S), “O son of the Prophet, I once heard your father (A.S) saying that after the Qa'em there shall be twelve Imams”, and then he corrected, “He actually said twelve Mahdis and not twelve Imams. They are from our followers (Shiite), who shall call upon people to support us and identify our right.”)) Kamal Al Din (Perfectionism of Religion) chapter 2, page 358. If we look at the mood of this hadeeth, we immediately realize that imam a.s is playing down the importance of Mehdis. He says that “they are from our followers (Shiite), who shall call upon people to support us and identify our right.” Six points are very clear from this hadeeth: Mehdis are from imam's followers, i.e. (Shiite), and not from Imam. Now count from Hazrat Salman Farsi to yourself. Mehdis will be from them. But do not count imams. Mehdis will not be from them. If you think that Shiites are infallible, Mehdis will be infallible. If you think Shiites are fallible, Mehdis will be fallible. If you think that not having eeman and bay’at on Shiite is a great sin, then not having eeman and bay’at on Mehdis is also a great sin. If you think not having eeman and bay’at on a Shiite is not a great sin, then not having eeman and bay’at on Mehdis is also not a great sin. [*]Mehdis shall call upon people to support imam and identify their right. Full stop. Mehdis will be among the Shiites whose functions is supporting and identifying rights of imam. That is it. [*]Imam specifically said that his father, also an imam “actually said twelve Mahdis and not twelve Imams”. This means Imam is asking very specifically not to call and address Mehdis as Imam. [*]Out of respect and obedience to Imam Muhammad Baqar a.s and Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s., we should not call anyone we think as one of twelve Mehdis as “Imam”. [*]Again out of respect and obedience to Imam Muhammad Baqar a.s and Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s., we should not consider anyone we think as one of twelve Mehdis as infallible like our Imams, but should consider them as fallible like imam’s followers (Shiite). [*]May Allah protect us from considering any of the 12 Mehdis coming after 12 imams as Imam or infallible and thereby defying the clear directions of Imam Muhammad Baqar a.s and Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s. Ameen Abuzar

Excuse my ignorance. What is wr wb? I do not want to pretend that I know than anyone. However, there are certain conclusions that I have reached and will just write them. You and others may agree or disagree. Your writing has given me an impression that you indeed love the ahle bait and that you want to reach the truth. So do I. Now the question is, where do we differ? Please excuse me if you find it rude. But still give it some deep thinking. It is my impression that people accept Mr. Ahmad al Hassan on the basis of dream and/or istakhara (their own or someone they are very close to). Then they fall in love with him. Now one thing love or hate does is that it takes away the rationality. A loving person subconsciously does not want to see/hear/accept anything wrong in his/her beloved and always looks for arguments for his/her beloved. And believe me. When one’s heart tilts to one side, he can always find an argument for that side, and seriously believe that he is right and rest of the world is wrong. This is probably why Quran criticizes arguing but favours being reasonable. The question is, can you rise above your feelings for Mr. Ahmad al Hassan and seriously scrutinize all the facts? There is no harm in trying. If he is right, you will still reach the same conclusion. If he is wrong, you will find the truthfulness. OK. This is a salafi attitude. Unless you can bring narration, you are wrong. Two questions arise. 1. Is this an obviously right attitude? I do not have any Quranic or hadith narration for following. If you have, please provide: S=VT Vf=Vi+at Vf=ViT+1/2at2 E=mC2 So is it not obvious that something that our reasoning justifies can be true even if we have not found such narration for it. After all, man was ashraful makhlooqat before any divine script was sent down. This is accepted by entire human race except the salafis. 2. Is this attitude supported by Quran or ahl e bait? In other words, does Quran and ahl e bait ask us to reject any statement unless we can find a quotation from Quran or Hadith directly supporting it? Let us see what Quran says. (There are more than 50 ayat supporting it but I am quoting only one. For other ayats, please read my post above). Al-Imran (The Family of Imran) 3:118 We have indeed made the signs [thereof] clear unto you, if you would but use your reason. Here we see that Allah wants us to use the grey cells of our brain to interpret the signs even if a narration is not immediately obvious. As far as ahle bait are concerned, our first imam Hazrat Ali a.s has said “Do not see who is talking, but consider what is he talking”. In other words, matter or substance of a statement is far more important than mere quotation. This is very understandable. Even Quran (and ahadiths) have made statement on some isolated incidence, and that ayat or hadith cannot be used on every occasion. Quran calls such ayats “mutashabehat” and warns against blindly following them. Hence I have written somewhere that crooked people look for ayats and ahadiths which strengthen their stand instead of looking for a consistent policy given by Quran and ahadiths. Moreover, I have given examples from quran which point towards favouring a system that gives maximum freedom to human being. And what are those proofs and narrations from the Ahlul Bayt(as)? Why do we not start from Hazrat Adam and go till our 12th Imam (ajf) to see how they proved their truthfulness? One thing we see consistently is that these messengers have always had a history and no one doubted the family that they had come from. In other words, they had a history. Exception is Hazrat Adam a.s. But everyone present (I.e. Hazrat Eve:-D) knew his background. No prophet or imam had his ancestors doubted except Hazrat Maryam, but here also the doubt shed was complemented with the praise and acknowledgement for three members of her immediate family: Maryam (Mary) 19:28 O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man, nor was thy mother a loose woman!" We know the parents and family of all imams beyond any doubt. Moreover the prophets and imams spent long years within their people so they can judge their character. In sura e Younus, holy Prophet (saww) takes pride of this fact and uses this spending of time as an argument: Yunus (Jonah)-10:16- Indeed. a whole lifetime have I dwelt among you ere this [revelation came unto me]: will you not, then, use your reason ?” [24] - Whereas in Mr. Ahmad al Hassan’s case, we are not sure of his identity. Most people do not accept his claim of pedigree and even say that he is actually Sheikh (admittedly this may not be true). Nobody knows his mother. Nobody knows his brother or sister or wife or children. Even his own existence is doubted. So as far as family and show of character is concerned, every infallible is different, actually opposite to Mr. Ahmad al Hassan. As I have shown before, no infallible has claimed to prove his existence with dream or istakhara. So here also Mr. Ahmad al Hassan contradicts the pattern set by all infallible. In last several hundred years, Mr. Ahmad al Hassan found only three scholars to praise and they also practiced haram things all their lives. Ayatollah Khomeini actually started Vilayat e Faqih and democracy in Iran, and made tens of millions of people to do his taqleed. So he was pioneer in three haram acts and responsible for almost entire shia nation practicing haram. Yet he deserved to be praised? Ironic. Don’t you think so? Dear brother. Please think of following: There is no taqleed on usool e deen. This is what is haram. Taqleed is on furoo e deen only. Those who can gain enough knowledge to be able to find solution of religious problems, or those who can practice “ehtiyat”, do not do taqleed. Every mujtahid e jameush sharayat is fallible and no one copies or worship him. He can make mistake like any doctor can. Obviously, there is no taqleed when imam is present who cannot make mistake. Please tell me what should rest of the shias (which makes the vast majority) do at the time of occultation? Please come out with a practical solution. What do you do when a family member falls ill, or there is a court case, or you need a building erected? Do you try DIY (do it yourself) or go to an expert? Do not tell me you have never been to a doctor. If it is all right for you to go to an expert, why is it wrong for me? Come on my brother. See the logic. Brother. Try to see the pattern instead of isolated example(s). I never heard of Mr. Ahmad al Hassan at the time of Saddam (Allah’s curse on Saddam). Nor did anyone I asked did. When did you first heard of him. Please ask your close, honest associates too. But is there a narration or example from infallibles to identify their position based on istakhara? In my knowledge none till Mr. Ahmad al Hassan. So am I brother. A very humble servant of my and your imam e zamana. The truest and real infallible and the only imam of our time. May he come soon and be happy with both of us. Ameen.

Oops Sorry. One more thing. 6th reason why I like democracy/election is because if truly applied in their countries, it will mean an end of four greatest enemies of shiite and justice seeking sunni muslims. Kings of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and Kuwait will have to pass the power to the people liked and elected by these nations. Pardon me. But I think this is precisely the reason why Mr. Ahmad al Hassan hates democracy so much.