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    abdul_hasnain got a reaction from Rightly Guided Benefactor in why do the shia hate the sahaba   

    Pancho, those who go against Quranic injunctions and backstab their Prophet are hypocrites! This includes doing injustice to Ahlul Bayt and killing them.

    How does Salman ruling under Abu Bakr have anything to do with Abu Bakrs actions? If Salman accepted to govern people and guide them instead of Abu Bakr how is that a bad thing? A bit like Imam Ali (SA) giving 1st and 2nd advice, so that people would'nt have to suffer from the lack of knowledge of those in power.
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    abdul_hasnain got a reaction from Noor Hassan in Hadith from rashad khalifa   

    Guys, bear in mind, that when you argue with someone who's fundamentals are flawed, you make them feel that their beliefs are somehow justified and important. I made this mistake previously, may I be amongst the forgiven.

    Ali ibn Khalil

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    abdul_hasnain got a reaction from Noor Hassan in Hadith from rashad khalifa   

    Brother deneroz, will you tell us about your messenger, and will you also tell us where in the Quran, "which contains everything" and is "easy to understand" and is "detailed", will you tell me which verse says he is a messenger.

    Ali ibn Khalil

    ps. be careful not to "bear witness that he was a messenger" or else you would be comitting shirk! ;)

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    abdul_hasnain got a reaction from Noor al Batul in Iman of hazrat abu talib(as)   


    [Pooya/Ali Commentary 9:113]
    Abu Talib followed the creed of Ibrahim, i.e. Islam. Abu Talib died as a Muslim before hijrat and this verse was revealed in 9 Hijra, therefore all the false traditions reported by the Muslim traditionists were fabricated by the enemies of Ali ibn abi Talib to present his father as an unbeliever.

    Abd al Muttalib, the Holy Prophet's grandfather, on his deathbed embraced Muhammad for the last time and then entrusted him to Abu Talib, saying: "Take care of this boy, nothing in our kindred is more precious than he." Abu Talib affectionately brought him up, loved him fondly, made him sleep by his own bed-side and took him with himself wherever he went. History is a witness that, before Ali, it was Abu Talib who supported and assisted the Holy Prophet and his divine mission under all circumstances. In his sermons and poetry he praised his nephew as the messenger of Allah and expressed his faith in him and his belief in Allah.

    When Abu Talib saw his son, Ali, praying with the Holy Prophet to worship Allah, he gladly approved the act of devotion performed by his son and advised him to follow the Holy Prophet, help and support him in his mission.

    When the verse "warn your relatives" (Shu-ara: 214) was revealed, the dawat dhil ashira was arranged by the Holy Prophet in the house of Abu Talib. Abu Lahab, his other uncle tried his best to stop the Holy Prophet from delivering his speech but Abu Talib put his hands on Abu Lahab's shoulders and made him listen to the Holy Prophet's message, the message of Islam. He not only supported him in all his activities against the idolworshippers but also suffered untold hardships along with him when the pagans of Makka began the historic boycott of the Holy Prophet. They went in a body to Abu Talib, and adopting a threatening tone demanded of him to make his nephew desist from attacks on their gods. The Holy Prophet was present. He refused to do so. The Holy Prophet thought that his uncle, for fear of family feud, wanted to withdraw his protection, so he said to him that he solely depended on Allah, and turned to go away. Here it is reported by Abul Fida, Habib al Siyar and Asni-al Matalib that Abu Talib called him back and told him that he would stand by him against all his enemies and would protect him (in his mission) till his own death; because Abu Talib believed in his nephew's convictions, and he accordingly made the Makkans understand that his nephew was really a messenger from Allah; and therefore they should take him as their spiritual leader and guide. Tabari and Ibn Hisham write that urged by Abu Sufyan, the heads of the different families of idolworshippers decided to break off all connections with the Holy Prophet and his relatives. In the seventh year of bi-that a covenant was written-not to have any sort of intercourse with the Holy Prophet and his kinsmen, neither to sell to nor to buy anything from, nor to contract matrimonial alliance with them-and signed and sealed and was kept in the Ka-bah. Abu Talib then took the Holy Prophet and the Banu Hashim to his quarters known as Shib abi Talib. This fortress was also beleaguered occasionally by the idolworshippers of Makka, to enforce the boycott in all its rigour. Abu Talib feared even night attacks and was on his guard for the safety of the Holy Prophet, and often changed his bed-site as a precaution against sudden violence. This state of affairs lasted for about three years. Finally the Holy Prophet told Abu Talib that Allah had shown His disapproval of the covenant against him, and had sent worms to eat out every word of the document placed in the Ka-bah, excepting His own name written thereon. Abu Talib, believing his nephew as the receiver of revelations from Allah, unhesitatingly went to the idolworshippers and told them what the Holy Prophet had spoken; and added that if what he was telling was found true, they would be bound to withdraw their boycott and lay aside their enmity towards the Holy Prophet and his kinsmen; if proved false, he would withdraw his protection. They all agreed and at once went to inspect the document. Only the name of Allah was there and nothing more. They said that it was an enchantment of the Holy Prophet, but, at the persistence of Abu Talib the boycott was withdrawn. It is clear that only a believing man could do what Abu Talib did.

    In the tenth year of bi-that, some months after the withdrawal of the interdict Abu Talib died at the age of 87 years. Abu Talib's attitude towards the Holy Prophet as well as some of his preserved verses prove, says Abul Fida, that he believed in the Holy Prophet as the true messenger of Allah and in his religion, Islam. He died actually in the faith with the kalimah on his lips. Some of his well-known verses are noted below:

    (i) I believe that Muhunmad's faith is the best of all the religions of the universe.

    (ii) Do you not see that we have found Muhammad, a prophet like Musa; he is already predicted in previous scriptures.

    (iii) To exalt him He (Allah) derived his name from His own; He as the highest is called Mahmud while He named him Muhammad.

    The status of Abu Talib in Islam was the same as that of "Mumin min ali Firawn" (a believer from among the people of Firawn) mentioned in verses 28 to 45 of al Mumin who had concealed his faith to protect Musa-an instructive parallelism between Muhunmad and Musa. The enemies of Ali fabricated false traditions to give the impression that his father had not embraced Islam. In a malicious, nevertheless stupid, way they had tried their best to take revenge from Ali for having killed in various battles their fathers, the idolworshippers and hypocrites of Makka and Madina.
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