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The Exalted One

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    The Exalted One got a reaction from MohammadAli1993 in The Quran Challenge "bring A Surah Like It"   
    EDIT: 7 replies were added behind my back, should edit some stuff.
    MysticKnight, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't know Arabic, do you? Then who are you to judge things as if you're an Arabic linguist? Let alone Arabic, you just made countless grammatical errors in your English post itself, yet you passing judgments and labels with regards to a language you don't know a [Edited Out] about? I don't like sticking my nose in matters I'm uneducated at, but if you're really being that head-strong, so be it.
    You don't know that. Are you really certain about this or is this another jump at conclusion? I mean, let's look at how logical you really were:
    There's your logical fallacy. You see, that's your job. Considering how YOU'RE the one who is trying to disprove something no one could, it's your job disprove a disputed fact. Go ahead, and SHOW HOW all the three criterias I mentioned doesn't apply to Surah-ul-Abu Lahab, Surah-ul-Falaq, Surah-ul-Naas. Then, get it confirmed by Arabic linguist.
    Seriously? Sarj is ambiguous? Copy-paste time:
    What is Arabic Prose?
    Arabic Prose can be described as non-metrical speech, meaning it does not have a consistent rhythmical pattern
    like poetry mentioned above. Arabic prose can be further divided into two categories; saj’ which is rhymed prose
    and Mursal which is straight prose or what some may call ‘normal speech’.
    Saj’
    Von Denffer in his book ‘Ulum al-Qur’an: An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur'an’ provides the following description:
    “A literary form with some emphasis on rhythm and rhyme, but distinct from poetry. Saj’ is not really as sophisticated as poetry, but has been employed by Arab poets, and is the best known of the pre-Islamic Arab prosodies. It is distinct from poetry in its lack of metre, i.e. it has not consistent rhythmical pattern, and it shares with poetry the element of rhyme, though in many cases some what irregularly employed.”
    Although saj’ differs from poetry in that it lacks a consistent rhythmical pattern, there is some form of pattern based upon the accent in each division of saj’. Accent based rhythmical patterns are based upon stresses rather than the number of syllables. Accent based rhythmical patterns are exhibited in Nursery Rhymes in the English Language. The following poem, ‘Baa Baa Black Sheep’, has two stresses (shown in Bold) in each line, but with a varying number of syllables.
    Baa, baa, black sheep,
    Have you any wool?
    Yes sir, yes sir,
    Three bags full;
    One for the mas-ter,
    And one for the dame,
    And one for the lit-tle boy
    Who lives down the lane
    Additionally saj’ is distinct from poetry and other forms of Arabic speech due to its concentrated use of rhetorical
    features. Rhetorical features are literary and linguistic devices intended to please or persuade, that differ from
    normal speech. Examples of rhetoric include sound, rhythm, ellipsis and grammatical shift (iltifaat). Devin J.
    Stewart in the Encyclopaedia of the Qur’an highlights this feature of saj’, “In addition, saj’ regularly involves the concentrated use of syntactic and semantic parallelism, alliteration, paronomasia and other rhetorical figures.”
    In summary the definition of saj’ is that it has a,
    1. Accentual rhythmical pattern
    2. End rhyme
    3. Concentrated use of rhetorical features
    [There you have it, the SPECIFIC definition of saj'. Feel free to prove it 'ambiguous'.]
    What is the Qur’ans Literary Form?
    The Qur’an has its own unique form. It cannot be described as any of the known literary forms. However due to
    similarities between saj’ and early Meccan chapters, some Western Scholars describe the Qur’an’s literary form as
    saj’. Angelika Neuwrith states,
    “Saj’ is given up completely in the later suras where the rhyme makes use of a simple –un/-in – scheme to mark
    the end of rather long and syntactically complex verse….saj’ style is thus exclusively characteristic of the early
    suras”
    These scholars who categorise the Qur’an as saj’ do so on the basis that the Qur’ans uniqueness is acknowledged. To illustrate this R. A. Nicholson in his book ‘Literary History of the Arabs’ states,
    “Thus, as regards its external features, the style of the Koran is modeled upon saj’, or rhymed prose…but with
    such freedom that it may fairly be described as original.”
    Although there is an attempt to try to describe the Qur’an as rhymed prose, western scholars concluded that it is a unique or an original form of saj’, thus supporting our hypothesis. To highlight this fact Bruce Lawrence states, “Those passages from the Qur’an that approach saj’ still elude all procrustean efforts to reduce them to an alternative form of saj’.”
    There are three major opinions based upon modern and classical scholarship on how the Qur’an achieves this unique literary form and this unique form of saj’ ... etc etc etc
    Please read the whole article.
    Why don't you just prove it a damn trap already? Go ahead, create a revolution.
    There's a WORLD of a difference between English language and Arabic language. You don't know the basic of linguistics and you're sticking your nose in it?
    And what exactly, SPECIFICALLY, makes it a joke? Let me guess, your emo issues with it?
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Inconsolable in How To Convert Or Guide Atheists?   
    Well, I'll try to share my personal experience.
    Sense of righteousness, justice and truth behind the reality shook me. So, you can always try to appeal to their treasured values such as these.
    And always use the wisdom, intellect, and powerful reasoning. Many times, people try to get to me via fear of hell etc. It only swooned me off. The first person who really got to me to take spiritual domain seriously was Ali ibn Abu Ta'alib. Nahjul Balagha is full of sensible arguments, justified beliefs, knowledge, and appeal to reason, and it is also so beautifully put together.
    Also, show them how disciplines and teachings taught in Quran is useful and beneficial to every aspect of life. Let's look at Surah-al-Asr, it alones contains so much wisdom in it. Verily, human beings are at lost. Until they believe [the truth], act righteously [based on that truth belief], call people towards the truth [so they can act righteously based on that truth belief themselves too], and develop some perseverence, patience [for you'll most likely encounter hostility in staying loyal to the truth]. This can be applied to Martial Arts, Studies, Science, and God knows how many fields and aspects of life.

    I personally feel like they don't want to face the possibility of God or any organized religion to be turned out true. They are slaves to their egos. And ego HATES God.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from akamp in Eternal Hell   
    I think you should realize that there are certain wounds times don't heal. Some evils inflicted on some poor people haunts them for eternity, transforming their life into personal hell. How else do you think the perpetrator of such crimes should be punished? Just look at how the events of Karbala haunted Zayn al-Abideen as-Sajjad for the rest of his life.
    Another point to consider, I don't think you realize that certain actions [which we might mispercieve as "trivial"] has much more far-reaching effects than we think. There's a saying [i learned it from a movie, DEAL WITH IT!]: 'For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the steed was lost. For want of a steed, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message, the war was lost.'
    I've seen family torn over mindless slandering, and I've seen perfectly normal young boy growing up to become furiously bitter, cruel individual who went on to cause massive mayhem and, in turn, created more monsters. A simple slander and false accusation can start a vicious cycle of events that are unacceptable to say the least.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from baradar_jackson in How Do You Avoid Shaking Hands?   
    Pick your nose in front of 'em.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from PenOfTruth in I'm Weird Because...   
    We're all members of this damn place, isn't that enough to explain our weirdness?
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Anisa Bandeh Khoda in I Like A Muslim Girl, Need Positive Advice Please!   
    Bro, all the "true luv <3" is just temporary neurosis. It'll wear off. Don't allow yourself to be overwhelmed to such an extent. [... dem friggin' romantic movies ...]
    You should do your own research on Islam, see the common terms between Islamic ideology and your own. Check out if you share common values and if you are satisfied with it, it's your choice. Become a Muslim or not.
    And since you're doing it for teh gurl, I think you should learn about her as well. Looks can be deceiving. Just because she is a Muslim doesn't necessarily means she is, well, a true Muslim. There are plenty of name-sake Muslim who are more un-Islamic than a lot of non-Muslim. Learn about her values and stuff like that. See if you share the common values and beliefs etc. True luv <3 won't do any good in a long term if you're both different from each other.
    Other than that, just don't let a wimminz influence sway you that damn much. Bro-ly suggestion by a bro-ly bro.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Brained in What Is Your Favourite Quote(s)?   
    Origins? Yes, my parents and family members were before they got westernized and bollywoodized [blah-blah, I was raised abroad]. After that, no member of our family was religious. I don't wanna get into it. Long story. But no, I wasn't religious [or cared about religions] until some personal hardships befall me, I was considering suicide, and literally out of no-where, someone suggested me to read a book which is regarded as "Peak of eloquence." And lo! After that, Ali ibn Abu Ta'alib became my hero. Now I don't know whether I'm religious or not, all I know is I follow whatever Ali ibn Abu Ta'alib teaches, I guess that does makes me a Muslim. I want to learn more about Ali ibn Abu Ta'alib and his teaching, that's the reason I joined SC.
    I don't think I am a great student. Far from it. Just a random psycho. For being someone who spend most of his life in ignorance of such a great teacher, I don't think that's right. Most of the members here are more well-versed in me.
    Enough of me though --- QUOTES TIME!
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    The Exalted One reacted to guest022017a in Do You Believe In The Concept Of Soulmate?   
    soulmate is false because the state of peoples souls changes everyday
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    The Exalted One reacted to IbnSohan in Marbles Unregistered?   
    what's nikka kaaka? google failed to find answer.
    I am not sure why people are attacking someone in their absence, if you have the courage do it in their presence and spit it on their faces, else.. shut up the whining.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Mushkil Kusha in Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore   
    Depends on the woman, actually. The new-age women brainwashed by greedy corporations and media [who are more bamboozled no matter what he whined about teenage---oops, I mean, "MALES"], well, don't even get me started. To say the least, they don't deserve our respect, not even our attention. However, there are still very few genuine ladies among us, they deserve respect and dignity.
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    The Exalted One reacted to Ethics in Marbles Unregistered?   
    wow, lots of hidden and deep drama on this site. I wish to never take part in any of it. Why dont everything just respect each others views? IDK...."sigh"
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from monad in Do You Believe In The Concept Of Soulmate?   
    No. Soul doesn't need a mate, ego does.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from بعيد in Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore   
    Depends on the woman, actually. The new-age women brainwashed by greedy corporations and media [who are more bamboozled no matter what he whined about teenage---oops, I mean, "MALES"], well, don't even get me started. To say the least, they don't deserve our respect, not even our attention. However, there are still very few genuine ladies among us, they deserve respect and dignity.
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    The Exalted One reacted to Brained in Marbles Unregistered?   
    He was bullied out by mindless idiots who had political differences with him ? Sounds more like fascist Italy than a Shia website... What a loss..
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    The Exalted One reacted to Haydar Husayn in Marbles Unregistered?   
    That was very sudden. No goodbyes or anything.
    I didn't always agree with Marbles, but he was definitely one of the more interesting posters on this forum, and it would be a shame for him to leave. This forum needs diversity, but it seems like there are those who would rather it be populated by clones.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Maryaam in Marbles Unregistered?   
    Who the hell here isn't one-sided?
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    The Exalted One reacted to monad in Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore   
    Irony -re posted by a female.
    I had a good reply, but as I am "lazy" , the greatness of the internet allowed me to click on the link and read the replies of other people. Far more interesting.
    "Woody Allen "Nostalgia is denial - denial of the painful present... the name for this denial is golden age thinking - the erroneous notion that a different time period is better than the one ones living in - its a flaw in the romantic imagination of those people who find it difficult to cope with the present."
    "Real men, of course, blog about their feelings."
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    The Exalted One reacted to Baka in Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore   
    Shaming tactic and more of it, when will we stop bashing men? A "real" man is certainly not someone defined by others, rather he makes himself what he wants, not giving into pressure. Anyways, I prefer my toys over women. Most women are not good and I rather avoid them. Games, manipulations and drama, sometimes the act playing on for many years before they show their true colours. I am sure there are some good women out there, but very few. Finding one would be like winning a lottery. Not worth the risk and I guess men are waking up to that reality and going their own way. Also, men should be selfish. No one else is looking out for their interest. To women, men are object of utility, after the use is extracted, they are useless and will be disposed off. Women probably settle for fools because he is easily manipulated so its by choice.
    Conviently the writer doesn't realise that women are doing some of the exact same things as mentioned by him.
    How about an article: where are the real women? :)
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Baka in Women Are Living Longer Than Ever Before   
    That was just a joke.
    But yeah, I still stand by my statement that males are exposed to hazardous activities.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Baka in Women Are Living Longer Than Ever Before   
    Considering males are more involved in hazardous activities like war etc, I think the fact should be obvious.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Baka in Women Are Living Longer Than Ever Before   
    I was speaking about dangerous activities in general, war is only one of such activities.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Baka in Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore   
    Depends on the woman, actually. The new-age women brainwashed by greedy corporations and media [who are more bamboozled no matter what he whined about teenage---oops, I mean, "MALES"], well, don't even get me started. To say the least, they don't deserve our respect, not even our attention. However, there are still very few genuine ladies among us, they deserve respect and dignity.
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    The Exalted One got a reaction from Baka in Why Men Aren’T Really Men Anymore   
    ... Is this guy serious?
    Don't even know where to start with here. He is making it sounds like being manly should revolve around what's convenient to women and society.
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