Abu'l Khattab

The believer does not die.

Nadoori, Nad, Rijali, Rajooli, Najashi, Ibn al-Ghadha'iri, al-Kashi, Bahboodi

Who's a problem in the chains?

Narration from myself. I entered upon Cake one day to ask him about modship when he started speaking before I asked, saying: "I was there when the forum was down for 2 weeks. I was there when we all thought Ja'far Shibli was Nader Zaveri under a new account. I was there when the tatbeer threads started getting out of control. I was there when there was no hadith sciences sub-forum. I was there when Shiachatters were debating if it is acceptable to curse Abu Bakr and Omar. I was there when there was no chatroom. I was there when Ali still had a presence on the site. I was there when Muhammed Ali was cracking down on dissidents." Then he turned to me and said: "O' Abu'l Khattab, whoever rejects me is not from me."

No that would put me under the ban hammer surely.

Ja'far Shibli (Majhool) narrated to me from Qa'im (Thiqa) from Abu Tufayl (Thiqa) from a man who said to a group of people: "Do you see this sun?" They said yes. He continued: "Do you doubt in its rise every morning?" They said no. He said: "Shall I inform you of something which is more certain?" They said: "Please, may we be sacrified for you." He said: "The right of Cake for modship is more certain than the rising of the sun every morning." In another narration with a same tradition, from Darth Vader (Thiqa) who said: "I was sitting with Cake when a man entered upon him and started insulting him. I stood up to refute him but Cake held me back and said: "Leave the man be." So the man continued insulting until he became furious with the lack of response from us and left. Cake said to me: "Do you know who that man was?" I said: "No, may I be sacrified for you, who is it?" Cake looked at me from under his glasses and said: "That was Iblees. Verily, Iblees runs from me faster than the flapping of a hummingbird's wing." So what will you deny now from not making Cake a mod?

Very weak argument. There's nothing wrong with saying to look at the ahadith first, unless you have some kind of problem with the Ma'soom opening their mouths. Also, please don't use this typical "but guys, what about the Qur'an?!" argument, because it's full of holes. Imamah started in the Qur'an? Who gave you the Qur'an though? Oh yeah, an Imam. Who knows the Qur'an the best? Oh yeah, the Imam too. Who established the laws of Amr bil-Ma'roof? Hey, look who it is, the Imam. Trying to belittle the narrations as a secondary proof isn't going to get you far, unless you believe you can do just fine without the Ma'soom.

This is the problem with some of you on this forum, you can't decide what to believe in. There's a burning desire in some of you (namely CM and baradar jackson) to form this image of al-Hussain as revolutionary fighter and predecessor for Wilayat al-Faqeeh and whatever quasi-Zaydi revolutions you advocate for. The only problem is, Imam al-Hussain was martyred, and didn't get hold of the empire, and that doesn't sit well with the "revolutionary fighter" fable image that you try to make. What do they then do to solve this problem? They make Ashura into a general theme for revolutions, hence the fabricated and insulting slogan of "Every day is Ashura and every land is Karbala." Hussain fought for the akhira, your revolutionary ideologies only care about worldly benefits. Hence why you don't get why al-Hussain was sacrificed.

From Imam al-Sadiq (as) who said about the verse: "Whether you show what is within yourselves or conceal it, Allah will bring you to account for it. Then He will forgive whom He wills and punish whom He wills" (2:284) He (as) said: "It is Allah's right not to enter paradise the one who has the weight of a mustard seed of love for Abu Bakr and Omar." (Tafseer al-Ayyashi) عن سعدان، عن رجل، عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام في قوله: * (وإن تبدوا ما في أنفسكم أو تخفوه يحاسبكم به الله فيغفر لمن يشاء ويعذب من يشاء) * (6) قال: حقيق على الله أن لا يدخل الجنة من كان في قلبه مثقال حبة من خردل من حبهما

Owls, as said in our narrations, spend the day in holy solitude (that's why you don't see them in the day) and spend the night mourning for Imam al-Hussain.

They should just pin one of these posts so people can debate until it's 300 pages until having 20 different threads at once

This proves my point. If you read more than just posting slogans against tatbeerists, you would've known that Amr bil-Ma'roof is Wajib Kifa'i, not Wajib Ayni. But the point isn't about Amr bil-Ma'roof, it's to propagate a specific political stance. Take what I said or leave it, you're the one who loses in the end.

The same topic, by the same people, with the same posts. The best part is, as I've been on this site, people have been talking about repulsive innovations and reviving islamic traditions, but they have done little to prove it. The same people have been stuck in the same phases for the longest time, and there's no sign they want to let up. I'll make two notable exceptions of people on this thread. Ibn al-Ja'abi and Ali_Hussain (yes, I'm giving him a compliment, take a picture). The two brothers have made a notable improvement in their arabic skills and have contributed to the site on an ever-increasing scale. The rest of you (take it generally) have been posting the same things since you've come on the site. We get it already, you don't like tatbeer. Many other people don't either. But guess what's worse? Not learning the narrations of Ahlul Bayt, and worse yet, rejecting them without even knowing because you haven't given time to read the narrations thoroughly. So stop wasting your time on tatbeer threads. People who do tatbeer aren't going to stop, neither are their opponents. Running around in circles will only hurt you in the long run, and not anyone else. Your time on this earth is set, use it well.

This verse is the perfect response to your question, and was also used by the Imams to prove that reciting Du'as is better than reciting the Qur'an. Say, "What would my Lord care for you if not for your supplication?" For you [disbelievers] have denied, so your denial is going to be adherent. (25:77) قل ما يعبأ بكم ربي لولا دعاؤكم فقد كذبتم فسوف يكون لزاما