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La ilaha ilallah. I'm not even going to bother with some of the posts above. A shia person brought this thread to my attention so I thought I'd throw in my two cents. I really don't have any more time to waste here. I will just repeat what I said before: We sunnis do NOT consider control over people and wealth by the hakim as being 'greedy' and something negative. On the contrary, where the aim is political stability, it is extremely praiseworthy, and Ali earned that. That is what Ali fought for, and that is what Ibn Taymiyya is clearly acknowledging for him. But there is no doubt that Abu Bak

Ummmm, he is addressing Amili or Hilli (the Shi'ite scholar who Ibn Taymiyya is refuting in this book). So what he is says is "how can this [i.e. Ali's fighting] be considered [by Amili/Hilli] fighting in the way of Allah, while Abu Bakr fought those who apostatized from Islam [while you, O Amili/Hilli ignore this] and .....". i.e. Abu Bakr's fighting was for the sake of Allah, and Amili/Hilli is NOT acknowledging it, while he is acknowledging it for Ali. The point being: Amili/Hilli is biased and subjective, and Ibn Taymiyya in his refutation is trying to make him realize that he has double s

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If you have any honesty in your query, then you can read the context here: http://islamport.com/w/tym/Web/3420/2755.htm Since you brought up this 'quote', the least you can do is have the decency to translate the context so people can see what he actually meant.

They didn't curse him. He didn't curse him.

'Traditional Sunni view'? Rubbish. Anyone who criticizes Ameer Mu'awiya () is not a sunni. The real 'Traditional Sunni view' can be found in Sunni books.

And the soul is also a created thing.So if Allah can be perceived by one thing that He has created (the soul) He has every power to give that to another created thing (the eyes). Unless Allah has to abide by a checklist of things you say He can/can't do.

I'm glad someone brought up the howness as the main issue, because that is precisely the issue. With all due respect, you have made a hasty conclusion, a false assumption, and a logical fallacy the name of which slips my mind right now.Your hasty conclusion: that we believe that vision of Allah is 'like we see normally with our eyes'. But that's not what we believe. Your false assumption: only the heart has the capability to 'see' Allah in a certain manner. We say: just like the heart can perceive Allah in a certain way different from other things, then Allah has the power to allow that for o

That's a fabricated narration.Subhanallah, how can you sleep at night knowing that you have based a point of aqidah (contradicting the authentic narrations) on a lie against the noble imam? And you mention the Sufis. Instead of going to those philosophy websites and seeing what they claim the Sufi beliefs are, why not read the earliest records, and their own books about their beliefs? Why not see what the great Junaid said? It's in the Risala. Or what Al-Sulami said? Or Abu Nu'aym? It's in their books. Or Al-Tustari? It's clearly recorded. Or Al-Nasrabadi? It's in his writing. Or Abu Hamza Al

This hadith is talking about seeing Allah in a dream, and not in reality.I know a person who has seen the Prophet (pbuh) without a beard in his dream. I have seen Allah in a dream too - but does that mean that's what I believe Allah to look 'like'? No. I do not believe Allah 'looks like' anything, astaghfirullah. In visions/dreams, things can be seen in various forms. Be it light, be it forms. The Sufi imams have written about this, and you can refer to that if you want. So that's that for the hadith about the 'beardless man'. In no way is it suggesting that Allah looks like a beardless man. A

The crux of what I'm trying to show is that if the heart, which is a human organ, can 'perceive' Allah (but not like perception of other created things) then Allah has the power to also give the eyes the power to perceive Him in some way, but not like perception of other created things. Mu'tazilis/Jahmis/Shias make the error of taking the thought beyond what the Sunni position simply states: they insist that the perception through the eyes MUST be corporeal in nature, while the Sunnis keep insisting that they don't believe that. We believe that if Allah can give power to the heart to perceive