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    shah1 reacted to 89jghur32 in Prophet Saw In Grave Near To Sahaba Ra   
    Abuse of power.
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    shah1 reacted to Against oneself in When You See Mocking And Bad Behavior   
    mashallah the good manners of shiachatters ... and liked by imali. one person sent me a pm of support. on this thread many lined up to ridicule me ... and i never attacked them. islamically is it ok for you to stand by and do nothing with these people mocking me?
    i am hoping someone takes action here.
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    shah1 reacted to Qa'im in Prophets Do Leave Inheritance [Quran]   
    ^ Just more copy-pasted nonsense. If you're here just to Ctrl-V and not to discuss the points you're pasting, then you're wasting your time and ours.
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    shah1 reacted to Ali_Zaen_al_Abidin in Insulting The Companions   
    Assalamualaykum Warrahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu
    I am a Sunni, Shafii - as a shafii we were taught the History of Islam regarding Imam Ali AS, Imam Hasan AS, Imam Hussain AS through our classic books - yes we say Alaihi Salaam to ahlul bayt - and the base is from our salawat: Allahuma Sali Ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa Ala Aali Sayyidina Muhammad - which we do in every salaat - there fore for Aali (family/kin) of Muhammad we say Alaihi/Alaiha salaam. And for righteous sahaba we say radiallahu anhu. We know about Siffin, The poison of Imam Hasan AS and Karbala etc.
    Probably our difference with Shia are our view on the Khulafa Arrashidin (6 - Abubakar RA, Umar RA, Uthman RA, Imam Ali AS, Imam Hasan AS, and Umar ibn Abdul Aziz RA(who stopped the practice of cursing Imam Ali AS)
    I was just banned from sunniforum.com because I said la'natullah alaa Muawiyyah, Yazid, Marwan and Hajjaj bin Yusuf and all Nawasib (Haters of Ahlul Bayt) except Umar ibn Abdul Aziz RA - which none of them are considered as sahaba
    and I include a link from Dr. Adnan Ibrahim


    and Ibn Taimiyyah is also a nasibi
    what the heck ..... sunniforum is dominated by nasibi (wahaby/salafi) too ....
    So I said now la'natullah alfu marah alaa Muawiyyah, Yazid, Marwan and Hajjaj bin Yusuf and all Nawasib.
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    shah1 reacted to Modest Muslim in Insulting The Companions   
    I've given you clear proofs from Qur'an, sunnah and Nahj al Balagha. What more do you need? Look, I'm not asking you to love those who wronged with our Imams. I'm just asking you not to insult them openly. I'm against the attitude of terrorists like Yasser al Habib.
    We all say, 'Oh God, curse those who wronged with Ahl al Bayt and deprive them of Your blessings'. I'm just against openly insulting the Caliphs like Indian or Pakistani Shia Muslim lecturers do in public. This causes fitnah and is foolishness.
    If they're going towards hell through one route, will you use another route to go towards hell?
    Please visit this link now:

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    shah1 reacted to Ethics in Insulting The Companions   
    Just a type: http://en.wikipedia....Curses_in_Islam
    This is done with the Arabic word La'nat. "La'nat" means deprivation, and can be used in expressions such as "La'anatullah", "May (he/she/it) be deprived of God's (blessings)". So, the curse is not to be understood as gaining evil, rather of losing the blessings of God.
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    shah1 reacted to Modest Muslim in Insulting The Companions   
    When our Imams spoke ill of the Companions, it was the time when all the Muslims used to speak ill of Ahl al Bayt. Nobody does that now and a few people who hate them are hated by the majority of the Muslims. If our Imams were present as human beings here in this world today, they would've forbidden insult of the Companions. We can say that because we see Qur'an, the Prophet (peace be upon him and his descendants) and Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib (peace be upon him) saying, doing and ordering the same.
    1) In Q. 6:108, God says:
    Here God wants us not to insult those whom non-Muslims worship. Similarly, we're not allowed to insult those whom Sunni Muslims revere so much that they call them their caliphs.
    2) We see that Prophet Muhammad kept Abu Bakr, Umar and Usman close to him. If he wanted, he could easily say, 'I know what's in your heart. I know that you don't actually believe in what I've brought. Leave me and go away.' He did not do so rather he kept them close to him. He married their daughters and gave them his so-called daughters as their wives. He sent them as his advocates. He sent them as his generals with his army. Shia Muslims insist on what bad they did and Sunni Muslims insist on what good they did. Actually, we must see them in the middle of what both of us think them to be.
    3) Once Imam Ali saw some of his soldiers abusing the Syrians so he said:
    4) Just for the sake of Shia-Sunni unity, we must abstain from insulting each other's religious personalities. What kind of justice is this that when a man insult the Prophet, we protest but we ourself do the same thing with other Muslims?
    Imam Jafar al Sadiq said, 'Abu Bakr al Siddiq born me twice' (Siyari by al Dhahabi, volume #6, page #255).
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    shah1 reacted to Ibn al-Hassan in Insulting The Companions   
    Well, even those who do insist on cursing, abusing, and insulting the companions are quite selective (i.e. they are not speaking ill of all the companions, a few notable ones). As far as cursing goes (in terms of sending lanat on those certain companions), it is unacceptable it appears from the view of Imam Khamenei (that is if he is considered to be your source for religious knowledge). For others, they base their actions on the ahadith coming down from the Infallible Imams of the Ahl al-Bayt [as]. Whether or not you accept those narrations as authentic or such (or choose to place them within their proper context) is up to you, but there is textual evidence to support their practice.
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    shah1 reacted to khaibershikan in Quran's Opinion For Companions   
    The Opinion of the Quran regarding the Companions

    First of all, I must say that Allah - praise be to Him the Most High - commended, in many places in His Holy Book, the Companions of the Messenger of Allah who loved. obeyed and followed the Messenger without personal greed and without opposition or arrogance, and only wanted the acceptance of Allah and His Messenger; those Companions have pleased Allah and He pleased them, and that is the way for those who fear Allah.
    This group of the Companions are appreciated by the Muslims because of their attitudes towards the Prophet (saw) and their works with him, therefore they are liked and respected by all Muslims, and they are appreciated whenever people mention their names.
    My study does not concern itself with this group of Companions who are respected by both the Sunnis and the Shia, nor is it concerned, with those who were well known for their hypocrisy, and who are cursed by all Muslims, Shia and Sunnis, whenever their names are mentioned.
    However, my study is concerned with the group of Companions about whom the Muslims have expressed different views. There are verses in the Holy Qur'an where they are rebuked and threatened because of their attitudes in certain positions, and the Messenger of Allah (saw) warned them on many occasions, and warned other people about them.
    The outstanding differences between the Shia and the Sunnis is concerned with this group of Companions, because the Shia criticize their sayings and deeds and complain about their justice, whereas they are respected by the Sunnis, in spite of their contradictions. My study is concerned with this group of the Companions because through it I will be able to reach the truth, or part of it. I say that, so that no one may think that I have neglected the Quranic verses which commend the Companions to the Messenger of Allah, and that I exposed the verses which criticize them. In fact through my research I discovered that some verses contain praise for the Companions, but if you read in between the lines you find that they contain criticism of them, and vice versa.
    I shall not write here about all the hard work that I have done in the past three years in preparing this study, but I will confine myself to some Qur'anic verses as examples, and not for any specific reason. For those who want to go further, I advise them to research and compare, as I did, in order that they may find the Right Faith by themselves, and through their own work. That is what Allah wants for everybody, and that is what the conscience of each individual wants. Thus, one would achieve an absolute conviction that will not be shaken by any storm. After all, the divine guidance which results from personal conviction is far better than that which comes as a result of external factors.
    Allah - the Most High - says in praise of His Prophet (saw): "And found you unable to see [the way] then He showed you the way" [Holy Qur'an 93:7]. That is He found you searching for the truth, so He led you to it.
    He also said: "And those who strive hard for Us, We will guide them in Our ways" [Holy Qur'an 29:69].
    1. The turning back verse
    Allah - the Most High - says in His Glorious Book: "And Muhammad is no more than a messenger, the messengers have already passed away before him, if then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least, and Allah will reward the grateful." Allah, the Great, has told the truth [Holy Qur'an 3:144].

    This Qur'anic verse is clear about how the Companions will turn back upon their heels, and only a few will stand their ground, as the above Qur'anic verse indicated in the expression of Allah about them. Those who stand their ground and do not turn back are the grateful, for the grateful are only a small minority, as in the words of Allah- the Most High: "And very few of My servants are grateful" [Holy Quran 34:13].
    Also there are many sayings of the Holy Prophet (saw) which explain the "turning back", and we will refer to some of them, and even if Allah - the Most High - did not specify the punishment of those who turned back on their heels in this Qur'anic verse: He glorified the grateful who deserve His reward. However, it is important to know that those who turned back on their heels do not deserve the reward of Allah and His forgiveness, as has been emphasized by the Messenger of Allah (saw) in many of his sayings, some of we will discuss - if Allah wills - in the course of this book. We could not explain the Qur'anic verse with reference to Tulayha, Sujah and al-Aswad al-Ansi, out of respect for the Companions, because the above-mentioned Companions have turned back and abandoned Islam, and even claimed the prophecy during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allahs who fought them and finally defeated them. Nor indeed can we explain the Qur'anic verse with reference to Malik Ibn Nuwayrah and his followers, who refused to pay Zakat (alms) in the time of the caliph Abu Bakr, for many reasons. They refused to pay al-Zakat (alms) and give it to Abu Bakr because they wanted to wait and see what happened, for they had accompanied the Messenger of Allah on his farewell pilgrimage, and voted for Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib at Ghadir Khum after the Messenger of Allah appointed him as Caliph after him, and indeed Abu Bakr himself voted for Ali. Therefore, they were astonished when a messenger from the caliph came to tell them the news of the holy Prophet's death and at the same time asked them to pay Zakat in the name the new caliph, Abu Bakr. It is a case in which history does not want to go too deep, for the sake of the Companion's honour. Furthermore, Malik and his followers were Muslims according to the testimony of Umar and Abu Bakr themselves and other Companions who disapproved of Khalid ibn al-Walid's killing of Malik. History testifies that Abu Bakr paid compensation for Malik's death to his brother Mutammem out of the Muslim's treasury, and apologized for his killing. It is well established that the apostate must be killed, and no compensation be paid out of the Muslim's treasury for his killing, and no apologies issued for killing him.
    The important thing is that the "turning back" verse refers to the Companions who lived with the Messenger of Allah in al-Medinah al- Munawwarah, and indicates the immediate "turning back" after the Prophet's death. The Prophet's sayings explain all these things in such a clear way, that no one could doubt it. We shall deal with these matters soon, if Allah wills. History also testifies for the "turning back" that happened after the death of the Messenger of Allah, and when we view the events which took place among the ranks of the Companions we notice that only a few managed to come out unscathed.
    2. The Holy War [Jihad] Verse
    Allah - the Most High - said: "O You who believe, what (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah 's way, you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world's life instead of the Hereafter? But the provision of this world's life compared with the Hereafter is but little. If you do not go forth, He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you, and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things" (Holy Qur'an 9:38-39).
    This Qur'anic verse is clear about the reluctance of the Companions to go and fight in the Holy War [Jihad], and how they chose to be content with the life on earth, in spite of their knowledge of its short duration. Their action warranted a rebuke and a threat from Allah - the Almighty - that a terrible torture was awaiting them, and that He would change them for others who were true believers.
    The threat to change them came in many Qur'anic verses which indicate clearly that they showed their reluctance to fight in al-Jihad- Holy War - more than once, and Allah- the Most High - says: "And if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, they will not be like you" (Holy Qur'an 47:38).
    Also the Almighty says: O You who believe! Whoever from among you turns back from his religion, then Allah will bring a people, He shall love them and they shall love Him, lowly before the believers, mighty against the unbelievers, they shall strive hard in Allah's way and shall not fear the censure of any censurer, this is Allah's grace, He gives it to whom He pleases, and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing (Holy Qur'an 5:54).
    If we want to investigate the Qur'anic verses which emphasize this issue and talk about the classification of the Companions, which the Shia advocate, then we would need a special book for it. The Holy Qur'an expressed all that in the most direct and eloquent way: Let there arise out of you a nation, inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong, and these it is that shall be successful.
    And be not like those who became divided and disagreed after receiving clear signs, and these it is that shall have a grievous chastisement.
    On the day, some faces will be white (lit up) and some faces will be black (in the gloom), to those whose faces will be black (will be said): Did you reject the faith after accepting it? Taste then the chastisement for rejecting the faith. But those whose faces will be white, they will be in Allah's mercy, therein to dwell" (Holy Qur'an 3:106-107).
    These Qur'anic verses, as every intelligent scholar knows, are addressing the Companions, and warning them of the division and disagreement among themselves after they have already been shown the Right Path. They also tell them that a great torture is awaiting them, and divide them in two groups: The first group: when they will be resurrected on the Day of Judgement, everyone of them would have a white face, and those are the grateful who deserve the mercy of Allah. The second group: when they will be resurrected on the Day of Judgement, everyone of them would have a black face, and those are the apostates, whom Allah - the Almighty - promised the great torture.
    It is well-known that the Companions were divided after the death of the Messenger of Allah. They disagreed among themselves to such an extent that they fought each other bloody wars which led to the regression and the backwardness of the Muslims and made them easy target for their enemies. The above Qur'anic verse could not be interpreted in any other way except that which is readily accepted by people.
    3. The Submissiveness
    Allah - the most High - said: "Has not the time yet come for those who believe that their hearts should be submissive for the remembrance of Allah and what has come down of the truth? And [that] they should not be like those who were given the book before, but the time became prolonged to them, so their hearts hardened, and most of them are transgressors". (Holy Qur'an 57:16).
    In al-Durr al-Manthur by Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti, the author says: when the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (saw) came to al-Medinah and started to enjoy a higher standard of living after having lived through many hardships, they seemed to slow down, so they were punished for that, and hence the verse "Has not the time yet come for those who believe" was revealed. Another version of the story, which came from the Prophet (saw), was that Allah- the Most High- found some reluctance in the Muhajereen seventeen years after the first revelation of the Holy Qur'an, and therefore Allah revealed the verse "Has not the time yet come for those who believe". If those Companions - who are the best people according to the Sunnis - did not feel humble before the name of Allah or His right revelation of seventeen years, so that Allah found them slowing down, and rebuked and warned them for their hardened hearts which were leading them to corruption, we cannot blame the people of Quraysh who only entered Islam in the seventh Hijri year after the conquest of Makkah.
    These were some examples which I have selected from the Glorious Book of Allah which give us clear indications that not all the Companions were right, as the Sunnis believe.
    If we study the sayings of the Prophet (saw), then we will find many more examples, but just to be brief, I shall refer to some of those examples and the interested reader may further his own knowledge if he so wishes.
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    shah1 reacted to Kaniz e Zahra in Why Do Shia Do So Much Bid'a?   
    1.Prophet Mohammad(saww) did not order to do Matam? Was Imam Hussain(as) martyred yet? If this was savage behaviour,then why did n't He reprimand Lady Khadija(as) when She came out beating Her head,when He was stoned by people? Don't you know Sunnah is of two kinds one which He did,one which He watched happening but did n't try to prevent.Read this incident in your books.Madaruj ul Nabuwwat is one example.
    btw Quran is enough when Allah did n't reprimand his Prophet that is enough proof,the point is not public or private.Hazrat Yaqoob(as) used to cry publicly.But you can't take off your sunni telescope.
    2.Prophet(saww) did n't order rituals? What are rituals by the way,you revolve around two graves in Haram as well as we do.And for Ziaraat ,again the answer is illogical,most of the Imams(as) were not born either let alone martyred,but He ordered to visit graves of Shuhda e Uhad especially Hazrat Hamza(as),so what does it mean? Don't do rituals just fulfill the sunnah of visiting,but no your real reasons are different.
    3.Prophet(saww) did n't order to celebrate Ghadeer,these celebrations are Shukrana for the completion of Deen,which Allah order to do for every Naimat,and there is no bounty bigger than that.
    4.What a strange reply? Prophet(saww) did n't prostrate on Turbah of Hussain(as),was He Shaheed yet? He prostrated on clay,so when this great incident has taken place,which clay could be better than that?
    5.Shia combine them but don't say its wajib,it becomes bidaah when they call it wajib.
    6.Is that the answer ,every muslim on Earth knows what Shahada is? I gave you Ayaat so what they meant then? Is every muslim on Earth knows more than Allah(nauzbillah).
    It does show third Shahada as part of Azaan,iqaamat,Kalima but you simply can't accept it even if Quran says,because sunni telescope is always there.
    7.Again i gave you Quranic reference,and got this.
    We don't associate partners either.
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    shah1 reacted to Shia_Debater in Ayat About Sahaba   
    Watch this, most of it is about the ayahs in the Qur'an about the sahaba and how we refute the claims that all the sahaba are praised in the Qur'an etc. etc.

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    shah1 reacted to haideriam in Abu Bakr, Umar Addressed As Believers In 49:1-3   
    you both could be right, after all the handsome man who sits on the throne on judgement day, did not know about iblees either.
    so what is the big deal for the ones' who give him shape and limit him, the poor christians only gave 1/3 the shape.
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    shah1 reacted to Haydar Husayn in Abu Bakr, Umar, Adressed As Believers Hujarat 1-3   
    So if something isn't in the Qur'an then it means that it's not true? Anyway, the point is Abu Bakr and `Umar's crimes came after the death of the Prophet (pbuh), and after the Qur'an was revealed. Apart from those who want to insist that Abu Bakr and `Umar were always pure evil from the day they were born, I don't see the problem in accepting that at a particular point in time they were believers who later became misguided.
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    shah1 reacted to Ethics in Aisha -Sunni Perspective   
    No, because flying and an elephant is something that is possible, since they are both different entities. You cant be short and tall at the same time, as I said, short is short and tall is tall.
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    shah1 reacted to Noura_Shi'a in What Is The Shia View On Abu Bakr (ra)   
    My brother, u are a genius!
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    shah1 reacted to The Green Knight in Possible To Know The Originator Of Magic/taweez ?   
    Atheists are close-minded nutjobs who think their science is at a level to explain everything. Same goes for Rijalists, because they sadly lack a sahih hadith at each next step. Who cares. Spiritual healing/manipulation works. There are countless examples. Recently about a month ago this woman I know of, my friend's elder sister, had liver sclerosis and was diagnosed cancer. Her medical tests were 'off the charts' and the complications made me think that it was quite possible that she wouldn't survive. She was in a lot of pain. Then they took her to a 'fraud' spiritual healer of some renown that some 'ignorant' people referred them to, and guess what. Her pain ended. She is now back on her feet. 10 days later the new cancer test reported that there are no malignant cells anymore. Her blood test reports are normal. She is fine since two weeks and I'm looking forward to learn about her liver's condition in a ultrasound report. Your stupid broken god that you call 'science' can not explain it, nor do people care if it does or not. So its no wonder that you wouldn't understand. But there are many thousands of people getting healed and affected by spiritual manipulations and it is independent of your belief in it or a lack thereof. Most scientologists who witness such things call it psychological in nature since they can't abandon their god and must offer an explanation as well.
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    shah1 reacted to wayfarer. in Think And Reflect   
    Once upon a time there was a man in the jungle enjoying a nice day

    watching the equatorial lush green foliage and the exotic animal life.

    Suddenly, the man heard the movement of a lion behind him and so

    ran for his life. But the man couldn’t escape and came face to face with the lion.

    As he was thinking quickly of another way to escape, he saw a deep well to

    his right. His options were narrowed between drowning in the well
    and being chewed by the hungry lion.
    The man decided to jump into the well hoisting himself with a rope tied
    to the top of the well for drawing water. As he reached the bottom of the well,
    the man saw a huge man-eating snake taking a nap at the bottom; the man pulled
    himself up in the middle of the well, suspended between a hungry lion
    on the top and a sleeping snake at the bottom.
    Meanwhile the man noticed that two mice, one black and one white were chewing
    the rope he was hanging on, making it thinner and thinner. The man began to
    swing with the rope hitting the sides of the walls of the well periodically.
    Suddenly he felt something sticky on his shoulder, as he examined what it was,
    he found that it was honey. Upon looking around the well he noticed
    a bee colony on the wall of the well.
    The man forgot the dangerous situation he was involved in and started licking
    the honey to his satisfaction.
    He suddenly remembered where he was and jumped out of bed.
    The man was dreaming all along. The man went to a Sheikh
    to interpret his dream. The Sheikh asked him:
    “You do not understand this dream?" The man replied "Yes sir, I do not."
    The Sheikh said "The lion that was chasing you is the Angel of Death.
    The well which housed the snake is your grave. The rope in the well that
    you were hanging on is your lifetime ticking away. The Rodents chewing your rope,
    the black and the white mice are the day and the night.
    The man asks "The honey, Sir, What is the honey?"
    The Sheikh replied “The honey is the life of this world and its temptations
    which made you forget that there was death behind you and a grave ahead of you.
    You end up in the grave while savoring the taste of the honey until you
    find yourself standing trial for your deeds in a Court of Law of the most Just kind.
    The above narration was just intended to remind us that we are also
    busy licking the honey (lost in the temptations of this world) while our life time
    is ticking away. Some day (sooner or later) we will also face the
    angel of death and will be carried to our grave!
    Say: "Verily, the death from which you flee will surely meet you,
    then you will be sent back to (Allah), the All-Knower of the unseen
    and the seen, and He will tell you what you used to do."
    {Surat Al-Jumu`ah, Verse 8}

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    shah1 reacted to Robin Hood in Possible To Know The Originator Of Magic/taweez ?   
    Here are verse of the Qur'an related to magic:
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    Sahih InternationalAnd they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.

    And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah's permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls; had they but known this.
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    ShakirAnd cast down what is in your right hand; it shall devour what they have wrought; they have wrought only the plan of a magician, and the magician shall not be successful wheresoever he may come from.

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    shah1 got a reaction from Rasul in Infallibility   
    Quran 76:24
    Sahih International: So be patient for the decision of your Lord and do not obey from among them a sinner or ungrateful.
    So is there a contradiction in da Quran. We have to obey prophets u say sinned and made mistakes but now Quran is saying don't obey a sinner! You suffer from lack of understanding!
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    shah1 got a reaction from Rasul in Infallibility   
    who is greater/better?
    Prophets or angels?
    Do angels make mistakes?
    Why did angels bow to a prophet?
    If you agree angels are infallible, then why is it so hard for you to accept prophets pbut being infallible?
    There's nothing wrong with not being able to make any mistakes!
    When we were born we were infallible free from mistakes and error And sins. So does dat mean if babies die in infancy they are better then prophets who made mistakes?
    Some people need to just open their mind up and use their god given brain what Allah swt has given them.
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