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What's your point in posting these? The Wilayah is an essential aspect of Islam, is that it?

It would suit you better to actually read the prior posts that I made. I do tawassul _everyday_ in _every_ du`a.

Here you go:

Where is your translation from? Here is a much more reputed, academic translation of this verse: "Those gods they invoke besides Him have no power of intercession, unlike those who bore witness to the truth and recognized it (or alternately within the same translation: 'those who have God's permission')." (Quran, 43:86) This verse in no way advocates for calling upon someone other than Allah even if that person's intercession is guaranteed to be accepted by Allah. Rather, this verse is giving you a general theme that Allah chooses whose intercession is accepted; you cannot just pick any person to intercede with Him. There other verses in the Quran that say not to call upon anyone but Allah. These can be reconciled with the one above to mean that this is the formula for intercession in du`a: Ya Rabb biHaqq Muhammad (as) wa Aal Muhammad (as) to the end of the du`a or Ya Rabb biShafa`at Muhammad (as) wa Aal Muhammad (as) to the end of the du`a What you can't do as per these verses and most clearly from the verse you posted is the following: Ya Rabb biHaqq Abu Bakr to the end of the du`a This is because Abu Bakr has no status in front of Allah.

I would really recommend that you guys review the basics of Islam before you start engaging in matn-criticism.

Well, then you can do two things: 1. Look at 20 or so verses in the Quran that talk about Imamate. 2. Look at the definition of bay`at in the Shari`ah and you'll come to an answer.

Let the people go east or west for knowledge is found only in the house that the angels descend upon.

1. The chains for the letters in Nahj al-Balagha are in the original source works (i.e. Tarikh al-Tabari and others). There are too many to post here, but you can refer to Reza Shah-Kazemis works where he mentions that these have been reconstructed. 2. The chain for Sahifa al-Sajjadiya is normally included at the beginning of it. You can look up the version translated by William Chittick.

1. Can you provide the verse your talking about? 2. Perhaps you're looking at the case of the pagan Arabs in a wrong light. Allah tells us to take a wasilah to Him in the Quran. The Arabs apparently did this, but this is only correct when you choose a wasilah that Allah has provided and in some way attributed to Himself (do not read into this). Otherwise, using any unsanctioned wasilah would fall under shirk (one reason being that you're speaking on behalf of Allah and attributing something to Him that He has not attributed to Himself). To that end, some of the wasilah that come to mind are any of the Ahl al-Bayt (as), the Kaba, the Quran, the attributes of Allah. 3. Here is something that gets lost in translation. Tawassul is a way to be humble in front of Allah, and that is the etiquette you should always have in approaching Him. 4. Some of the forms of tawassul that are popular now are not in the hadith. This does not mean that they are haraam or shirk or whatever, and it would be wrong to call them as such without proof. Rather, what would make them shirk is if someone had the wrong intention. With that said, by ihtiyat, I don't practice some of these forms of tawassul or encourage them, but that's the most I would say. People who know the methodology of fiqh know this. Pseudo-Salafis who like to think they're Akhbaris don't.

Have a little humility and perhaps we'll talk.

I would really advise to learn more about the religion rather than questioning everything endlessly. Your post demonstrates a misunderstanding of the purpose and function of du`a in the lives of the believers.

Rational thinking, ehh?

No, never.

Reread what I wrote. Note, I said understanding of, not utterance of.

This is wrong; you are looking at this hadith through the lens of normative Shiism. These divisions and classifications came later and are not enumerated in the actual hadith; at the end of the day, the hadith is correct in asserting that imamate is an essential part of Islam just as the other items are and rejection of any of them is the equivalent of rejecting Islam.