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B-N

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  1. Nasai also believed that there existed no sahih hadith in praise of muawiya.
  2. The tradition cited regarding Muawiyah being a Haadi has not been even approved by Imam Tirmidhi himself as he decalred it ‘Hasan Ghareeb’. Allamah Muhammad Abdurehman bin Abdurahim al-Mubarakfuri in his commentary of this tradition cited the comments of Allamah Ibn Abdul Barr: ‘The hafiz ibn Abdulbar said: “His companionship is not true and his chain (isnad) is not Sahih.” We also read in ‘Tanaqudat al-Albani’ volume 2 page 228 by Allamah Hassan Saqaaf: “The Marfu Hadith from Abdulrahman bin Abi Umaira (Oh Allah guide him and make let him guide) referring to Mu’awiya, this
  3. This is indeed a typical picture of tyrant and oppressed which fact has been acknowledged by sunni scholars but its just that you are more than keen and excited to use the acceptance of stipend by Imam Hassan (as) and Muawiya (la in la) as proof of "extremely close and friendly" relationship with each other thats why you are not even bothering to go deep into the issue. An esteemed Sunni Muhadith, Faqih and commentator Shaykh Abu Bakar Ahmed bin Ali Jasas Razi (d. 370) records in his authority work: “Hasan Basri, Saed bin Jubayr, Shau’bi and all Tabayeen used to take stipends from oppress
  4. Given that the Pakistani authorities have an interest in controlling the flow of "unwanted" information coming out of the region, the BBC sought to verify details by speaking to local contacts in areas said to have been hit by the conflict. All the areas were along the Line of Control (LoC) dividing the Indian and Pakistani controlled sides of Kashmir. A police officer in the Poonch region told the BBC's Aurangzeb Jarral that Indian artillery targeted some Pakistani military posts across the Buttal region, and two Pakistani soldiers were killed. In the Bhimber, Leepa and Neelum
  5. http://www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/who-killed-imam-hussain.html
  6. Nicely summarized in a sentence, jazakallah khair :) Wait wait wait, first of all i would like to see your argument that it was strictly the 'inheritance of knowledge' which was being talked about in the narration of nasai?
  7. LOL.. Till date i have not received answer of the following from you and the point is still unattended, i.e, since you are more than keen to prove that Shia text also says that prophets do not leave inheritance but you have miserably failed to prove, from Shia text, the concluding part of the Hadith fabricated/claimed by Abu Bakar, according to which 'whatever prophets leave is to be distributed as sadqa' !!! In fact Abu Bakar himself did not make implementation of this part of his lie thats why we see that not 'everything' prophet (s) left was distributed by him as sadqa such as apartments of
  8. Thats it? Thats all what you have to say in this response? Ok I take it as your acceptance that according to your filthy cult, sahaba and tabayeen were also followers of Abdullah Ibn Saba. And the very reason to create SP was to use its stuff in the internet debates where the najis nawasib throw barrage of filth so your time and again showing that stuff has been taken from SP is nothing but waste of time. Stupid, the refs quoted by me where by hardcore Salafi scholars in praise of Showkani from whom you were trying to get rid of, so dont try to be smart and switch the topics. Once a
  9. Ooops..lagta hai hasb o nasab chair kar dukhti ragg par haath rakhdia main nay :P Talking of Ibn Saba then lemme show you some of your beloved ancestors (sahaba and tabayeen) who were adherents of you Ibn Saba :) Whilst discussing Abdullah Ibn Saba, one of the greatest Salafi scholar Uthman al-Khamis of the modern era made the following admission in his book Hoqba min al-Tarikh, pages 130 -131: And his advocates who contributed in spreading his doctrine were al-Ghafeqi bin Harb, Abdulrahman bin Udays al-Balawi [sAHABI], Kanana bin Bashr, Sawdan bin Hamran, Abdullah bin Zayd bin Warqa, Amr bi
  10. Oh Yeah? is that why Abu Bakr in his inaugural speech made it clear that he was not the best among the ummah and he should be guided whenever he made mistakes in dispensation of his duties as a ruler lol? That is why he was so reluctant to become a ruler at the episode of saqifah and as per his own words he accepted rulership only because he feared that sahaba had recently converted to Islam and there were chances of their getting apostates on seeing dismal state of affairs? JIs that why he regretted at his death bed for few sins he committed in his life ? Just compare all this junk with a cha
  11. 1. Firstly good attempt to avoid the Sunni tradition which proves that Ali was the only (spiritual) heir and successor of prophet and only he inherited him (s). 2. Fatima Zahra (as) inheriting estate of prophet (s) is very much proved from Imams of Ahlulbayt (as) as referred by you from al-kafi therefore your attempt to argue that she can either inherit dinar and dirhams or knowledge is nothing but an false attempt to play with the words, Ali inherited prophet being his successor and Fatima Zahra inherited prophet in material possessions in capacity of being biological heir, its simple as tha
  12. Unfortunately for you, Ali himself didnt concur with the reasons you have advanced for his being an heir of prophet: “Al-Fadl bin Sahl- Afan bin Muslim- Abu Awana- Uthman bin al-Mughira- Abi Sadeq- Rabeea bin Najed narrated that a man came to Ali and said: Oh commander of believers, why only you inherited your cousin excluding your uncle? He (Ali) replied: The messenger of Allah invited the children of Abdulmutalib and he cooked for them food, they ate till they get fulfilled and the food remained as if no one had touched it, then he (the prophet) brought water and all of them drank from i
  13. Jazakallah khair bro. Another point is that in their feeble attempt to prove that prophets do not leave material possessions in inheritance Sunnis/Nawasib shoot themselves in the feet by relying upon the above hadith because the hadith confirms that (a.) it was Ali (as) who was the heir of prophet (b.) Ali in fact inherited prophet, and hence the humanly appointment caliph (Abu Bakar) looses his eligibility leaving Sunnies no where !!
  14. LOL...o tukhm-e-na tahqeeq, aaj Shokani jaisa scholar bhi bekr hogya. Wah !! That it self is sufficient to prove his Nasb !!! By the way it also proves that the picture was not as rosy as painted by nawasib and not all sahaba were happy with the caliphate of abu bakar.
  15. Are you okay? Why would he "claim" Fadak "alongside" Fatima Zahra (sa) when only she was entitled to it? He advanced his claim when his claim became matures i.e. he was seeking his share from Fatima Zahra's share from her father's property. Have a look at it again: “...Then I took charge of this property for two years during which I managed it as Allah’s Apostle and Abu Bakr did. Then you both (‘Ali and ‘Abbas) came to talk to me, bearing the same claim and presenting the same case. (O ‘Abbas!) You came to me asking for your share from the property of your nephew, and this man (Ali) came t
  16. What about this? “...Then I took charge of this property for two years during which I managed it as Allah’s Apostle and Abu Bakr did. Then you both (‘Ali and ‘Abbas) came to talk to me, bearing the same claim and presenting the same case. (O ‘Abbas!) You came to me asking for your share from the property of your nephew, and this man (Ali) came to me, asking for the share of his wife from the property of her father.” Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 80, Number 720
  17. Ok finally the najis blood of your nasibi ancestors flowing into your veins have finally been revealed. By the way, your acceptance of Ali being a rebel (for whatever category of word you may put him) has proved you an out and out nasibi because as per hadith we are asked not to find faults in Ali bin Abi Talib (as) and that too, a fault/crime which according to your school is tantamount to committing zina in a mosque . Nayl al-Awtar, Volume 7 page 198: واعلم أن قتال البغاة جائز إجماعا كما حكي ذلك في البحر ولا يبعد أن يكون واجبا لقوله تعالى { فقاتلوا التي تبغي } وقد حكي في البحر أيضا عن الع
  18. Only a biased person, in his blind love for thugs and thieves, can make an attempt to cast doubt on the authenticity of reports about the atrocities committed by those thugs. It was just few days back when you had advanced a claim that the hadith, i had referred to, was weak and had audacity to claim that it was me who was lying but subsequently you had to retreat when i showed that your ulemas deemed it authentic. http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235022942-khalid-bin-waleed-the-horrific-event/page-4 You people are already under problem since the day your hero had attributed a lie to pro
  19. 1. I haven't seen weakening of tafsir al qummi ref anywhere there. 2.Sunni scholars in their books have discussed that witnesses were produced in fact they have gone to dedicate sentences defending their caliph on the ground that standard of witnesses had not been fulfilled therefore if you have any problem with that historical fact then you may file complainants before your own scholars. 3. Its sheer disrespect of Ali bin Abi Talib (as) to allege that he opposed the notion advanced by Abu Bakr and Co. even though he was aware of the Hadith. 4. Khutbah Fadak is authentic, one may ref to a boo
  20. (salam) I have often observed that debate on Fadak gets expand on pages thats why I thought to shrink the whole debate into a abridged form in a rather informal way: Events as they happened 1. Fadak was received as Fay property and it became exclusive property of prophet. (Nawawi) 2. Prophet (s) gifted it to Fatima Zahra (as). (Tafsir al Qummi) 3. After prophet’s death, Fatima Zahra (as) demanded Fadak to which Abu Bakr demanded witnesses, Fatima produced witnesses but her witnesses were turned down. (Ibn Hajjar in Sawaiq al Muhriqa, Mir Sharif in Sharah Mawaqif, Razi
  21. For the first time i am confronting with a nasibi who early agreed that all sahaba and tabayeen who revolted against the corruption and nepotism of uthman and subsequently murdered him and threw away his body in garbage for three days are burning in hell :) :P as per your beloved scholars such as Uthman al Khamis and Ibn Khaldun, Sahaba Ammar bin Yasir (ra), Amr bin al Hamiq (ra), Abdul Rehman bin Udais (ra) etc were followrs of Ibn Saba :) So according to you all those sahaba and yasir habib are of the same category?
  22. That was never my issue, my point was to water down the attempt made to show that Waqidi is somebody who needs to be thrown out of the window whenever cited !! My efort has at least made person like you to change your stance a bit ! Talk about yourself, to us its proven that it was given to Fatima Zahra (sa). Besides anything else, her stance to ask for her right in Fadak is itself sufficient for us, who have firm faith in her, to know that it was her. Unlike you people, we cannot have audacity to over rule her stance over statement of someone whose past was dubious and doubtful!!
  23. Yawwn... i know nawasib have taught their adherents that waqidi is out and out a lair and he can never be relied upon but the harsh reality is that the picture is not as bleak as painted by the nawasib for the reason that his works and stature has been accepted by sunni ulema though some of them had some reservations about him on certain aspects: http://www.shiapen.com/biographies/muhammad-al-waqidi.html
  24. Just like how the corpse of uthman was made an example by sahaba and tabayeen? P.S I am not a follower of yasir al habib never watched his lecture as such, so mind before you comment anything like that:)
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