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  1. ۖ وَالسَّلَامُ عَلَىٰ مَنِ اتَّبَعَ الْهُدَىٰ and peace is on him who follows the guidance; (20:47) *اَللَّهُمَّےصـلِّےِعَلَى مُحَمَّــدٍوَآلِےِمُحَمَّــدٍ*وعجل فرجھم wasalam
  2. As for the foremost, referred in above verse is Imam Ali a,s who believed in prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and prayed along with him well before others, Many sunni reports provide the evidence. Wasalam
  3. The discussion has already been concluded and conclusion is given at the following link for information of those who intend to learn the truth from followers of 12 imams included in the purified progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم): wasalam
  4. It is also added that Imam jafar As Sadiq (عليه السلام). chose yathrib / Medina for his great school where about 4000 students were studying, They belonged to different cities of Arab and Persian world. The religious institute established in the Mosque of Kufa was the greatest of all those institutes. For it was attended by the nine hundred religious scholars from among those who were graduated from the school of Imam al-Sadiq. For this reason, the scientific movement vastly widened to the extent that it included all the Islamic regions. Many knowledgeable families in Kufa studied sciences under Imam al-Sadiq, and then they became famous for jurisprudence and hadith such as the family of Hayyan al-Taghlubi, the family of A'yun, Banu 'Attiya, the family of Banu Darrajj, and other than them.25 These families honored Imam al-Sadiq when he resided in Kufa for two years during the days of al-Saffah. https://www.al-islam.org/life-imam-musa-bin-jafar-al-kazim-baqir-shareef-al-qurashi/chapter-3-school-imam-al-sadiq
  5. Shia do not need to verify the hadith by view of a scholar about 12 caliphs/ ameers/ imams etc. There are متواتر hadith coming from both sunni and shia sources. We verify these hadith by the presence of 12 imams in our nation as mentioned in the verses of quran in line with 12vers concept that there are word imam repeated in the whole quran exactly 12 times. Why this is so if this does not provide evidence for 12 imams for us from the pure progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) for our nation? wasalam
  6. So you take all the zaidya imams as present physically for their selection , that gives rise to the following questions that needs answer from your side: The religion Islam has two sources of guidance ie Quran and the sayings of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) (and imams from his purified progeny(for shia) , brother @Cool have shared hadith / narration about imam Mahdi, yes he is in occultation and you do not believe, but: 1. Your imams after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام). has been chosen and selected by the people, where is the verse of quran as first source of religion that defines the principle that people can choose imams for their guidance? 2. From the second source of guidance in religion please quote us a hadith that zaidiya imams particularly Zaid bin Ali after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام), are chosen / selected as mentioned in the hadith. 3. Where is the hadith of the prophet that Zaidiya imams chosen by the people as per zaiidya claims provide the guidance to the people of our nation particularly Zaid bin Ali after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام)? As the religion islam is based on quran and hadith of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) for all sects then the above evidences are vital for confirmation of zaidiya claims. wasalam
  7. So do you not believe in ghayb? unseen ie out of sight? Do you think Imam Mahdi is alone in ghayb? ie occultation?
  8. What guidance zaidiya do follow in the absence of the above verse of quran for man made caliphate / immamat and hadith mentioning names of zaidiya imam particularly Zaid bin Ali after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام)? The answer is sufficient to prove 12vers view, yes, you may not accept it unless permission comes from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to open someones heart and: ۖ وَالسَّلَامُ عَلَىٰ مَنِ اتَّبَعَ الْهُدَىٰ and peace is on him who follows the guidance; (20:47) wasalam
  9. It is the same that sunni follow for first caliph Abu bakr and Zaidiya take it for Zaid bin Ali BOTH are same against the verses of quran and authentic hadtih of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) & sayings of imams from his Ahl alabayt (عليه السلام). However they take first three imams who are same imams for Shia 12vers from the progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). wasalam
  10. I am not here to spoon feed the one who is fond of just running away to opening of many threads in number just to increase the number of posts, even your all claims have already been proven to be false in earlier threads. http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/08/12-imaams-mentioned-by-name-explicitly.html Shia 12vers have well proven evidences from quran and hadith of the prophet and imams of the progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). Brother Zaidiya do not have a verse of quran that mentions that people can choose their imam, nor there is any hadith that Zaid bin Ali was an imam. yet they come and ask us authentic hadith from shia and sunni sources for 12 imams/ claiphs/ Ameer indulging their first three Imam Ali bin Abi talib (عليه السلام), Imam hassan (عليه السلام) and Imam Husain (عليه السلام) and 9 descendants from Imam Hussain (عليه السلام). What guidance zaidiya do follow in the absence of the above verse of quran for man made caliphate / immamat and hadith mentioning names of zaidiya imam particularly Zadi bin Ali after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام)? wasalam ,
  11. There are many hadith of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and Imams from the progeny of the prophet to confirm this fact and their nomination as imams including 12 imams, those have been presented many times in these threads during the discussions with yourself and Ali bin Hussain (Warrila). wasalam
  12. Thansk for your reply and referring others that your hero are these two instead of your own first 3 califs. It remind me here that if some one switches 12ver shiism and becomes your hero, but in the light of the verses of quran it my be otherwise, since the satan left to prostrate Adam and became Lanti / Regime. I hope it may be sufficient for some one eyes who just argue with 12vers instead of accepting the facts presented in many threads where these heroes have been found speechless and keep themselves running towards new threads opening thus truth remains hidden from their eyes. wasalam
  13. The Zaidi sect, the Jarudiyyah, narrate many traditions attributed to the Prophet and al-Baqir concerning the political role of the Twelfth Imam. One of their distinguished scholars in Kufa was Abu Said `Abbad b. Ya'qub al-Rawajini al-`Asfari (d. 250/864).(1) He wrote a book entitled Kitab Akhbar al-Mahdi.(2) Al-Dhahabireports that `Abbad was a Rafidite propagandist, and was awaiting the rise of al-Mahdi in the near future. He used to carry a sword, and once said that he kept his sword ready in order to fight for al-Mahdi.(3) It is worth mentioning that `Abbad held this view before the occultation of the Twelfth Imam in 260/874, since he died in 250/864.(4) He reports three Prophetic traditions concerning the Twelfth Imam. Below are two of them: 1)The Prophet is believed to have said, "From my descendants there will be eleven leaders [who will be] noble, receivers of tradition [and] possessed of knowledge, the last of whom will be `al-Qaim bil-Haqq' who will fill it [i.e. the world] with justice, just as it was filled with tyranny.(5) 2)The Prophet is reported to have said: "I and eleven of my descendants and you, O 'Ali, are the axis of the earth, that is, its tent pegs and its mountains. By us Allah has secured the world so that it will not sink with its people. For when the eleventh of my descendants has died the world shall sink with its people without warning.(6) http://www.en.al-shia.org/content/twelfth-imam-zaidi-traditions
  14. This is a false claim and conjecture and this is against the verses of quran where the guidance comes from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) through the quran, prophets, chosen leaders and imams and it has not been ceased in the history of religion so far. This claim has already been refuted by the following posts during the earlier discussion. wasalam
  15. وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَجَعَلَهُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن يُدْخِلُ مَن يَشَاءُ فِي رَحْمَتِهِ ۚ وَالظَّالِمُونَ مَا لَهُم مِّن وَلِيٍّ وَلَا نَصِيرٍ And if Allah had pleased He would surely have made them a single community, but He makes whom He pleases enter into His mercy, and the unjust it is that shall have no guardian or helper. (42:8) أَمِ اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ ۖ فَاللَّهُ هُوَ الْوَلِيُّ وَهُوَ يُحْيِي الْمَوْتَىٰ وَهُوَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ Or have they taken guardians besides Him? But Allah is the Guardian, and He gives life to the dead, and He has power over all things. (42:9) إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. (5:55) وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا فَإِنَّ حِزْبَ اللَّهِ هُمُ الْغَالِبُونَ And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant. (5:56) وَمَا اخْتَلَفْتُمْ فِيهِ مِن شَيْءٍ فَحُكْمُهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبِّي عَلَيْهِ تَوَكَّلْتُ وَإِلَيْهِ أُنِيبُ And in whatever thing you disagree, the judgment thereof is (in) Allah's (hand); that is Allah, my Lord, on Him do I rely and to Him do I turn time after time. (42:10) wasalam
  16. Do not be confused by the number '313' alone it is just a number used by Wahabi fighters for their battalion. They are the people who have been already trained by their masters and now due to economic reasons alone big brother is leaving Afghanistan. I believe in the following words of quran: وَلَوْلَا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ النَّاسَ بَعْضَهُم بِبَعْضٍ لَّهُدِّمَتْ صَوَامِعُ وَبِيَعٌ وَصَلَوَاتٌ وَمَسَاجِدُ يُذْكَرُ فِيهَا اسْمُ اللَّهِ كَثِيرًا ۗ وَلَيَنصُرَنَّ اللَّهُ مَن يَنصُرُهُ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَقَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ.. And had Allah not repelled some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and the mosques in which Allah’s name is much mentioned; and verily Allah will help him who helps Him (His cause); for verily Allah is Strong, Mighty.” (22:40) As far as Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) appearance is concerned the ground is seem to be prepared by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). This time Taliban apparently look more experienced, tolerable and eager to develop and sustain their government with the good relations to the countries of world like Iran, Pakistan, China, Russia etc. wasalam
  17. Another hadith for the names of 14 individuals including the prophet saaw & 12 Imams from his progeny is mentioned below: حدثنا احمد بن محمد بن عبید اللہ الحافظ (ر) قال: حدثنی علی بن سنان الموصلی قال : حدثنا احمد بن (محمد الخلیلی الاملی قال حدثنا) محمد بن صالح قال: حدثنی سلیمان بن اھمد قال: حدثنی زیاد بن مسلم (قال حدثنی) عبدالرحمان بن یزید بن جابر قال: حدثنی سلام عن ابی سلمی راعی رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ و آلہ قال: سمعت رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ و آلہ یقول : لیلۃ اسری بی (الی السما ٔ قال لی الجلیل جل جلالہ) (آمن الرسول بما انزل الیہ من ربہ ۔ قلت . و المومنون کل آمن باللہ و ملأکۃ و کتبہ و رسولہ قال: صدقت یا محمد من خلفت فی امتک قلت : خیر ھا۔ قال: علی بن ابیٔ طالب علیہ السلام؟ قلت : نعم یا رب۔ قال: یا محمد انی اطلعت الی الارض (اطلا عۃ) فاخترتک منھا فشققتلک اسمأ من اسمایٔ فلا اذکر فی موضع الا ذکرت معی، فانا المحمود و انت محمد ثم اطلعت الثا نیۃ فاخترت منھا علیا، فشققت لہ اسمأ من اسما یٔ فانا (العلی) الاعلی و ھو علی ۔ یامحمدانی خلقتک و (خلقت) علیا و فاطمۃ و الحسن و الحسین و الامٔۃ من ولدہ من سنخ نوری ، و عرضت و لا یتکم علی اہل السماوات و اہل الارضین فمن قبلھا کان عندی من المومنین ، و من جحد ھا کان عندی من الکا فرین۔ یا محمد ان عبدا من عبیدی عبدنی حتی ینقطع و یصیر کالشن البالی ثم اتانی جا حدا لو لایتکم ما غفرت لہ یقر بو لایتکم ۔ یا محمد ا تحب ان تراھم؟ قلت : نعم یا رب ۔ فقال لی : التفت عن یمین العرش ۔ فالتفت فاذا انأ بعلی و فاطمۃ و الحسن و الحسین و علی بن الحسین و محمد بن علی و جعفر بن محمد و موسی بن جعفر و علی بن موسی و محمد بن علی و علی بن محمد و الحسن بن علی و المھدی فی ضحضاح من نور ، قیام یصلون و ھو فی و سطھم یعنی المھدی ۔ یضی کانہ کوکب دری۔ فقال : یا محمد ھو لأ الحجج و ھو الثا ٔر من عترتک ، فو عزتی و جلالی انہ النا صر لاو لیا یٔ ، و المنتقم من اعدایٔ و لھم الحجۃ الواجبۃ و بھم یمسک اللہ السماوات ان تقع علی الارض الا باذنہ ۔ Ahmed b Muhammad b Ubaidillah Al-Hafiz narrated from Ali b Sinan Al-Mousili from Ahmad b Muhammad Al-Khalili Al-Amoli, from Muhammad b Saleh, from Sulaymaan b Ahmad, from Ziyad b Muslim, from Abdul Rahman b Yazid b Jabir, from Salaam from Abi Salama, who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (saww) say: On the night of Meraaj, Allah asked me, “Did the messenger believe in what was revealed to him from his Lord?” I said “Yes”, And the believers believed in Allah, His angels, His books and His messengers.” Allah said “You are right”. Then Allah asked, “ Who did you choose as a successor?” I said, “The best of my nation”.Allah asked “ Do you mean Ali bin Abi Talib”? I replied, “ Yes, O Allah”. Then Allah said: O Muhammad! I looked at all of My creation and I chose you from among all of them. Then I derived a name for you from My name. Therefore, it is not permitted that anyone mention Me without you with Me. My name is Mahmoud and your name is Muhammad. Then I looked again (at all of My creation) and I chose Ali, and I derived a name for him from My name. So My name is Ali, the extremely high, and his name is Ali. O Muhammad I created you, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain and the rest of Imams from Hussain’s sons from My own light. Then I asked all of my creations in the skies and the earths to accept your Wilayat. I consider those who accept it as believers, and I consider those who refuse it as Kafirs. O Muhammad! If a slave from among My slaves worships me until he is torn and nothing is left from him, but he refuses to accept your Wilayat, Ali’s Wilayat, and the Wilayat of the Imams from his sons, I will not accept him or forgive him until he accepts your Wilayat, Ali’s Wilayat and the Wilayat of the Imams from his sons. Then Allah asked me, “O Muhammad, would you like to see them?” I replied. “Yes, O Allah”. Allah said, “Look to the right of the Throne.” Then I looked and I saw Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain, Ali bin Hussain’ Mohammad bin Ali, Jaafar bin Muhammad, Musa bin Jaafar, Ali bin Musa, Muhammad bin Ali, Ali bin Muhammad, Hassan bin Ali, and the Mahdi. They were surrounded by light and they were standing and praying to Allah. Mahdi was in the center and he was shining like a brilliant star. Then Allah said: O Muhammad, they are My decisive proofs, and Mahdi will take revenge on My behalf. I swear by My Magnificence, he supports My friends and takes Revenge on My enemies. Following them and accepting their Wilayat is WAJIB (obligatory) on everyone. With My permission they prevent the skies from Falling on the earth. Reference: - Bihar ul Anwar, V27 p199 h27 - 100 Virtues of Imam Ali AS and his sons by Ibne Shazan and others.
  18. C. Imam Mahdi Is The Khalifah Of Allah 1. Imam Ibn al-‘Athir (d. 606 H), an ace Sunni lexicographer, opens this chapter: الخليفة من يقوم مقام الذاهب ويسد مسده The khalifah is whoever stands in the position of the one who is physically absent and substitutes for him. The absence may be due to a variety of reasons – such as travel, seclusion, death and others. As such, when Prophet Musa, ‘(عليه السلام), was leaving his Ummah temporarily for some days, he appointed a khalifah: وقال موسى لأخيه هارون اخلفني في قومي Musa said to his brother, Harun: “Be my khalifah over my people.” Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728 H) also informs us: فمن المعلوم انه كان لا يخرج من المدينة حتى يستخلف It is well-known that he (the Prophet) never left Madinah without appointing a khalifah over it. 2. والله يؤتي ملكه من يشاء And Allah gives His kingdom to whoever He wishes. Whoever He appoints to run His kingdom on His earth is called His khalifah. Prophet Adam, ‘(عليه السلام), was the first of such people: وإذ قال ربك للملائكة إني جاعل في الأرض خليفة And when your Lord said to the angels, “I will appoint in the earth a khalifah.” Imam al-Mawardi (d. 450 H) states under this verse: والثالث : أنه أراد : جاعل في الأرض خليفةً يخلفني في الحكم بين خلقي ، وهو آدم ، ومن قام مقامه من ولده ، وهذا قول ابن مسعود. The third opinion: is that He intended “I will appoint in the earth a khalifah WHO WILL SUBSTITUTE FOR ME in giving judgments among My creatures, and he is Adam and whoever stands in his position among his offspring”. This was the opinion of Ibn Mas’ud. 3. Imam al-Baydhawi (d. 685 H)also submits: والخليفة من يخلف غيره وينوب منابه والهاء فيه للمبالغة والمراد به آدم عليه الصلاة والسلام لأنه كان خليفة الله في أرضه وكذلك كل نبي استخلفهم الله في عمارة الأرض وسياسة الناس وتكميل نفوسهم وتنفيذ أمره فيهم لا لحاجة به تعالى إلى من ينوبه بل لقصور المستخلف عليه عن قبول فيضه وتلقي أمره بغير وسط The khalifah is he who substitutes for another and deputizes for him. The ha in it (i.e. the word khalifah) is only for emphasis. The one intended with it is Adam, peace and blessings be upon him, for he was the khalifah of Allah in His earth, and so were all prophets. 4. Imam al-Sharbini (d. 968 H) has the same words as above, almost verbatim, in his Tafsir. Imam al-Nasafi (d. 710 H) agrees with them: آدم كان خليفة الله في أرضه وكذلك كل نبي، قال الله تعالى : { يا داوود إنا جعلناك خليفة في الأرض } (ص : 26) Adam was the khalifah of Allah in His earth, and so were all prophets. Allah the Most High says: {O Dawud! We have appointed you a khalifah in the earth} [38:26]11 Imam al-Baghwi (d. 516 H) affirms this too: والمراد بالخليفة هاهنا آدم سماه خليفة لأنه خلف الجن أي جاء بعدهم وقيل لأنه يخلفه غيره والصحيح أنه خليفة الله في أرضه لإقامة أحكامه وتنفيذ وصاياه The one intended with the word “khalifah” here (in the verse) is Adam. He was named a khalifah because (according to one opinion) he succeeded the jinns, that is he came after them. It is also said (in another opinion) that it was because he substituted for another. THE CORRECT OPINION is that he was the khalifah of Allah on His earth for the establishment of His Verdicts and the implementation of His Decrees. 5. Imam Ibn al-Jawzi (d. 597 H) says also: أحدهما انه خليفة عن الله تعالى في إقامة شرعه ودلائل توحيده والحكم في خلقه وهذا قول ابن مسعود و مجاهد One of both (opinions) is that he was a khalifah of Allah the Most High in the establishment of His Laws and the proofs of His Oneness and the government of His creatures. This was the opinion of Ibn Mas’ud and Mujahid. Imam al-Zuhayli has this exegesis of the verse, as well: اذكر أيها النّبي لقومك قصة خلق أبيهم آدم، حين قال اللّه للملائكة: إني متخذ في الأرض خليفة، يقوم بعمارتها وسكناها، وينفذ أحكامي فيها بين الناس Mention, O Prophet, to your people the story of the creation of their father Adam, when Allah said to the angels, “I will appoint in the earth a khalifah who will uphold its structure and its residence and will implement my Laws in it among the people.” 6. And, al-Mahalli (d. 864 H) and al-Suyuṭi (d. 911 H) in their Tafsir al-Jalalayn, cap everything: {و} اذكر يا محمد {إذ قال ربك للملائكة إني جاعل في الأرض خليفة} يخلفني في تنفيذ أحكامي فيها وهو آدم {And} remember, O Muhammad {when your Lord said to the angels: I will appoint in the earth a khalifah} who will substitute for Me in the implementation of My Laws in it, and he is Adam. Prophet Muhammad is the supreme khalifah of Allah in our Ummah. However, there are others too besides him among us, non-prophets like us, who are his successors in the khilafah. He has specifically named Imam al-Mahdi as one of these khulafa of our Lord in our blessed Ummah. Imam al-Bazzar (d. 292 H) records: حدثنا أحمد بن منصور، قال: حدثنا عبد الرزاق، قال أخبرنا الثوري، عن خالد الحذاء، عن أبي قلابة عن أبي أسماء عن ثوبان، رضي الله عنه، قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: يقتتل عند كنزكم هذا ثلاثة كلهم ابن خليفة، ثم لا يصل إلى واحد منهم، ثم تقبل الرايات السود من قبل المشرق فيقتلونكم قتلاً لم يقتله قوم، ثم ذكر شيئا فإذا رأيتموه فبايعوه، ولو حبوا على الثلج فإنه خليفة الله المهدي. Ahmad b. Mansur – ‘Abd al-Razzaq – al-Thawri – Khalid al-Hadha – Abu Qilabah – Abu Asma – Thawban, radhiyallahu ‘anhu: The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said, “Near this treasure of yours, three people will kill one another. Each of them is a son of a khalifah. But it will not reach any of them. Then the black flags will come from the East, and they will kill you in a way that no nation had ever done been killed.” Then he mentioned something (and said): “When you see him, pledge allegiance to him, even if you have to crawl on snow, for verily he is the khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi.” Al-Bazzar himself comments: فإنا اخترنا هذا الحديث لصحته وجلالة ثوبان وإسناده إسناد صحيح. We have selected this hadith (for our book) due to its authenticity and the greatness of Thawban, and its chain is a sahih chain. 7. Imam al-Hakim (d. 403 H) also records: أخبرنا أبو عبد الله الصفار ثنا محمد بن إبراهيم بن أرومة ثنا الحسين بن حفص ثنا سفيان عن خالد الحذاء عن أبي قلابة عن أبي أسماء عن ثوبان رضي الله عنه قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : يقتتل عند كنزكم ثلاثة كلهم ابن خليفة ثم لا يصير إلى واحد منهم ثم تطلع الرايات السود قبل المشرق فيقاتلونكم قتالا لم يقاتله قوم ثم ذكر شيئا فقال : إذا رأيتموه فبايعوه ولو حبوا على الثلج فإنه خليفة الله المهدي Abu ‘Abd Allah al-Saffar – Muhammad b. Ibrahim b. Urumah – al-Husayn b. Hafs - Sufyan – Khalid al-Hadha – Abu Qilabah – Abu Asma – Thawban, radhiyallahu ‘anhu: The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said, “Near your treasure, three people will kill one another. Each of them will be a son of a khalifah. But it will not get to any of them. Then the black flags will come from the East, and they will fight you in a way that no nation had ever been fought.” Then he mentioned something and he [the Prophet] said: “When you see him, pledge allegiance to him, even if you have to crawl on snow, for verily he is the khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi.” Al-Hakim declares: هذا حديث صحيح على شرط الشيخين This hadith is sahih upon the standard of the two Shaykhs. And Imam al-Dhahabi (d. 748 H) agrees: على شرط البخاري ومسلم Upon the standard of al-Bukhari and Muslim. 8. Al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir (d. 774 H) further documents: وقال ابن ماجه: حدثنا محمد بن يحيى وأحمد بن يوسف قالا، حدثنا عبد الرزاق عن سفيان الثوري عن خالد الحذاء عن أبي قلابة عن أبي أسماء الرحبي عن ثوبان قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: يقتتل عند كنزكم ثلاثة كلهم ابن خليفة لا يصير إلى واحد منهم ثم تطلع الرايات السود من قبل المشرق فيقتلونكم قتلاً لم يقتله قوم، ثم ذكر شيئا لا أحفظه قال فإذا رأيتموه فبايعوه ولو حبوا على الثلج فإنه خليفة الله المهدي. Ibn Majah – Muhammad b. Yahya (al-Dhahli) and Ahmad b. Yusuf – ‘Abd al-Razzaq – Sufyan al-Thawri – Khalid al-Hadha – Abu Qilabah – Abu Asma al-Rahbi – Thawban: The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said, “Near your treasure, three people will kill one another. Each of them will be a son of a khalifah. But it will not get to any of them. Then the black flags will come from the East, and they will kill you in a way that no nation had ever been killed.” Then he mentioned something which I cannot recall. (Then) he said: “When you see him, pledge allegiance to him, even if you have to crawl on snow, for verily he is the khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi.” Ibn Kathir says: وهذا إسناد قوي صحيح، والظاهر أن المراد بالكنز المذكور في هذا السياق كنز الكعبة يقتتل عنده ليأخذه ثلاثة من أولاد الخلفاء حتى يكون آخر الزمان فيخرج المهدي ويكون ظهوره من بلاد المشرق This chain is strong and sahih. The apparent is that what is intended with the mentioned treasure in this context is the treasure of the Ka’bah. Three children of the khalifahs will kill one another near it, (aiming) to take it, until the End Time and the Mahdi will come out and his appearance will be from the Eastern towns. Dr. al-Bastawi also comments about this riwayah of Ibn Majah, copied above by Ibn Kathir: إسناده صحيح. Its chain is sahih. 9. The original army of Imam al-Mahdi will be from the Eastern towns, and he will accompany them. They will be carrying black flags. This army will be extremely powerful, and their first battles will be with Muslims. Al-Mahdi will be the khalifah of Allah on the earth. His legitimacy as the amir of the believers hinges entirely upon this fact. https://www.al-islam.org/imam-al-mahdi-twelfth-khalifah-sahih-sunni-ahadith-toyib-olawuyi/4-he-khalifah-allah (.......................Continued)
  19. From all the quoted hadith for 12 Imams from sunni and shia sources it is well proven that this hadith is mutawater. wasalam
  20. In line of truth mentioned in verses of quran and hadith of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), i also mention the authentic hadith (given at following link) from shia source for the names of 12 Imams from the progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم): http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/08/12-imaams-mentioned-by-name-explicitly.html wasalam
  21. The following link mentions the hadith with the Names of 12 Imams from sunni sources: All the 12 names can be read from the hadith. wasalam
  22. A correction in Arabic text is made for the following verses that was observed because of mistake in copying the text: فَأَقِمْ وَجْهَكَ لِلدِّينِ حَنِيفًا ۚ فِطْرَتَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَيْهَا ۚ لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know. (30:30) إِنَّ إِبْرَاهِيمَ كَانَ أُمَّةً قَانِتًا لِّلَّهِ حَنِيفًا وَلَمْ يَكُ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ Indeed, Abraham was a [comprehensive] leader, devoutly obedient to Allah , inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah . (16:120) wasalam
  23. "Shah G mamla kuch aur hy" ye nahi. You may like to see my post and links given in it: wasalam
  24. 1. I here quote the verse with Arabic text : الشُّهُورِ عِندَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ يَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ مِنْهَا أَرْبَعَةٌ حُرُمٌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ ۚ فَلَا تَظْلِمُوا فِيهِنَّ أَنفُسَكُمْ ۚ وَقَاتِلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَافَّةً كَمَا يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ كَافَّةً ۚ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ Indeed, the number of months with Allah is twelve [lunar] months in the register of Allah [from] the day He created the heavens and the earth; of these, four are sacred. That is the correct religion, so do not wrong yourselves during them. And fight against the disbelievers collectively as they fight against you collectively. And know that Allah is with the righteous [who fear Him]. (9:36) The verse mentions the concepts of, 12 Months and The Correct Religion I present the other verses of quran to explore its meaning, فَأَقِمْ وَجْهَكَ لِلدِّينِ حَنِيفًا ۚ فِطْرَتَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَيْهَا ۚ لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know. (30:30) قُلْ إِنَّنِي هَدَانِي رَبِّي إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ دِينًا قِيَمًا مِّلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا ۚ وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ Say, "Indeed, my Lord has guided me to a straight path - a correct religion - the way of Abraham, inclining toward truth. And he was not among those who associated others with Allah ." (6:161) The prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) has bee instructed to follow the Religion of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) and it has been mentioned as correct religion. وَإِذِ ابْتَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ ۖ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا ۖ قَالَ وَمِنْ ذُرِّيَّتِي ۖ قَالَ لَا يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ {124} And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an Imam of men. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust, said He. (2:124) إِنَّ إِبْرَاهِيمَ كَانَ أُمَّةً قَانِتًا لِّلَّهِ حَنِيفًا وَلَمْ يَكُ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ Indeed, Abraham was a [comprehensive] leader, devoutly obedient to Allah , inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah . (16:120) The above two verses confirm that religion of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) that has concept of Imam / leader chosen by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) like the example of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) has been quoted in above two verses is to be followed and it is correct religion. The above verses of quran prove that the religion including the Imam chosen by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is the correct religion and it is connected to Twelve months out of those four are sacred. 2. The hadith relevant to discussion has already been mentioned in earlier post that i quote again: Jabir said: I asked Imam Muhammad al-Baqir about the meaning of the verse: "Verily the number of the months … (9:36).”He (عليه السلام) breathed long (out of sorrow) and said: "O Jabir, The ‘year’ is my grandfather, the messenger of Allah (S), and his family are its ‘months’ who are the twelve Imams, and are … (naming the Imams one by one). They are the Proofs of Allah on His creation, and Trusties of His revelations and His knowledge. And Those of ‘four sacred who are the firm religion’ are those four who have the same name, and are ‘Ali, the Commander of Faithful (عليه السلام), and my father ‘Ali Ibn al-Husayn (عليه السلام), and later ‘Ali Ibn Musa (عليه السلام), and ‘Ali Ibn Muhammad (عليه السلام). Thus acknowledging these four is ‘the firm religion, so wrong not your souls in them’ and believe in all of them to be guided." Kitab al-Ghaiba, by Shaikh Tusi. It is also included in Chapter 4, of book, Ghayaba, by Sheikh Naumani. The narrators of this hadith include: Ali bin al-Husayn narrated from Muhammad bin Yahya al-Attar from Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razi from Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi from Ibraheem bin Muhammad bin Yousuf from Muhammad bin Eessa from Abdurrazak from Muhammad bin Sinan from Fudhayl ar-Rassan from Abu Hamza ath-Thimali, from Imam Abu Ja'far Muhammad bin Ali al-Baqir Thus it leaves no room that the verse is connected to 12 imams from the progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). Their presence in our nation is well proven and it is correct religion. More hadith on 12 Imams can be mentioned /referred if required. wasalam
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