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Suratul Baqarah: Verse 177 (١٧٧) لَّيسَ ٱلبِرَّ أَن تُوَلُّواْ وُجُوهَكُمۡ قِبَلَ ٱلمَشرِقِ وَٱلمَغرِبِ وَلَـٰكِنَّ ٱلبِرَّ مَنۡ ءَامَنَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱليَوۡمِ ٱلأَخِرِ وَٱلمَلَـٰئكَةِ وَٱلكِتَـٰبِ وَٱلنَّبِيِّـنَ وَءَاتَى ٱلمَالَ عَلَىٰ حُبِّهِۦ ذَوِى ٱلقُرۡبَىٰ وَٱليَتَـٰمَىٰ وَٱلمَسَـٰكِينَ وَٱبنَ ٱلسَّبِيلِ وَٱلسَّآئلينَ وَفِى ٱلرِّقَابِ وَأَقَامَ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتَى ٱلزَّكوٰةَ وَٱلمُوفُونَ بِعَهدِهِمۡ إِذَا عَـٰهَدُواْۖ وَٱلصَّـٰبِرِينَ فِى ٱلبَأۡسَآءِ وَٱلضَّرَّآءِ وَحِينَ ٱلبَأۡسِۗ أُوْلَـَٰئك ٱلَّذِينَ صَدَقُواْۖ وَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ ٱلمُتَّقُونَ It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards the East and the West, but righteousness is the one who believes in Allah and the last day and the angels and the Book and the prophets, and gives away wealth out of love for Him to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and the beggars and for (the emancipation of) the captives, and keeps up prayer and pays the zakat, and the performers of their promise when they make a promise, and the patient in distress and affliction and in time of conflict - these are they who are true and these are they who are the pious (177). Commentary It is said that when the qiblah was changed from Baytu '1-Maqdis to the Ka'bah, there ensued a long drawn out controversy and conflict in the public. It was then that this verse was revealed. The detail can be seen at the given link below: https://al-islam.org/al-mizan-an-exegesis-of-the-qur-an-volume-2/suratul-baqarah-verse-177
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Is Obeying a Tyranical Ruler Incumbent upon Muslims? One of the issues about which the Sunnis and the Imamate Shi‘ahs differ is obedience to a corrupt ruler or submission to a tyrannical government. Is it permissible to dismiss the caliph from office if he is corrupt or becomes corrupt? Is it permissible to rise up in arms against him or is it never permissible? The Sunnis have reached consensus that the caliph cannot be dismissed and removed from office, even if he is corrupt and perverted. Therefore, they say it is not permissible to revolt against him. The only thing Muslims can do is to advise him to change his corrupt ways. In contrast, the Imamate Shi‘ahs not only regard obeying a tyrannical and corrupt ruler not to be incumbent, but consider it to be forbidden [haram] by the Islamic law to submit to such a leader. In certain circumstances, it is obligatory [wajib] to rise up against a tyrannical ruler. Religious edicts [fatwas] issued by the Sunnis about obeying a corrupt and oppressive ruler 1. Imam Nuwi says, “The Sunnis have reached consensus that the sultan and caliph cannot be dismissed from office, even though he is corrupt…”1 2. Qadi ‘Ayad says, “All the Sunnis from different fields of specialization such as Islamic jurisprudence, hadith, history and theology believe that the sultan cannot be dismissed from office, even if he is corrupt, perverted, oppressive and tramples the rule of law underfoot.”2 3. Qadi Abu Bakr Baqilani writes, “All the Sunnis believe that an imam cannot be dismissed from office even if he is corrupt, oppressive, or seizes people’s property by force. He cannot be removed from power although he hits or slaps people in their faces and does not respect the honor of others, and even though he tramples the rule of law underfoot. It is not permitted to rise up against him. The Muslims can only go so far as to advise and warn him about the negative consequences of his actions. It is of course not binding upon the people to obey him when he invites them to participate in his sinful actions, but they cannot dismiss him from office. There are a number of narrations which assert that it is incumbent to obey an imam and caliph, even though he might be an oppressor or even if he forcibly usurps and seizes people’s property. Because the Prophet (S) has said, ‘Listen to and obey your ruler, even if he is a slave with a flat nose or an Ethiopian. Also, pray behind every person, virtuous or perverted.’ He also said, ‘Follow and obey your rulers, even if they loot your property and break your backs’.”3 However, some Sunni scholars have opposed this point of view, and instead believe that a corrupt ruler should not be obeyed. Some of those who have opposed obeying the corrupt ruler are Mawardi in his book “Al-Ahkam al-Sultaniyyah”4, ‘Abd al-Qahir Baghdadi in his book “Usul al-Din”5, Ibn Hazm Zahiri in his book “Al-Fisal fi al-Millal wa al-Ahwa’ wa al-Nihal”6, and Jurjani in his book “Sharh al-Mawaqif”.7 Edicts regarding illegality of rising up against a tyrant Many Sunni scholars [‘ulama’] have agreed that rising up against a corrupt ‘imam’ or caliph who is an oppressor is not permissible. Among those of old, ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Umar and Ahmad ibn Hanbal are some of the most headstrong opposers of rising up against the Muslim caliph even if he is an oppressor and a perverted man. Abu Bakr Marwazi narrates that Ahmad ibn Hanbal used to advocate preventing bloodshed and strongly denied the legitimacy of uprising against the Muslim caliph.8 Dr. ‘Atiah al-Zahrani adds a footnote at the bottom of Abu Bakr Marwazi’s narration saying, “The chain of transmission of this narration is correct. This is the true belief of the Salafi sect.”9 Imam Nuwi, while expounding on the agreement of the Sunni scholars on this issue, says, “According to the consensus of the scholars, rising up against the Muslim caliph is forbidden [haram], even though he is corrupt and oppressive.”10 However, this claim is not correct and, as we will explain later, the Imamate Shi‘ahs oppose it and believe that not only is obeying a corrupt and oppressive ruler not permissible, but it is also obligatory [wajib] to rise up against him under certain circumstances. Incongruities in this argument A. Response regarding traditions The belief that it is obligatory [wajib] to obey and follow the caliph and sultan, even if he is corrupt and oppressive, and that rising up against him is forbidden [haram], has a lot of faults and weaknesses according to Islamic thought. We will now mention some of those faults: 1. Opposition with the explicit wording of the Holy Qur’an It can be understood from Qur’anic verses that the Imamate and caliphate are not bestowed upon or granted to oppressive and corrupt people, and that if the ruler is a corrupt man, it is not at all permissible to obey him. a. “And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an imam of men. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust: said He.”21 ﴿ وَإِذِ ابْتَلَي إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِکَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُکَ لِنَّاسِ إِمَاماً قَالَ وَمِنْ ذُرِّيتِي قَالَ لا ينَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ ﴾ b. “Say: Is there any of your associates who guides to the truth? Say: Allah guides to the truth. Is He then who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who himself does not go aright unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you; how do you judge?”22 ﴿ ... أَفَمَنْ يَهْدِي إِلَي الحَقِّ أَحَقُّ أَنْ يُتَّبَعَ أَمَّنْ لاَ يَهِدِّي إِلاَّ أَنْ يُهْدَي فَمَا لَکُمْ کَيْفَ تَحْکُمُونَ ﴾ It can be deduced from this verse that a person who does not guide towards the truth of Allah is not worthy of being followed and obeyed. c. Some Qur’anic verses have said that submission and inclination towards oppressors will make man taste the fire of Hell. One verse says, ﴿ وَلا تَرْکَنُوا إِلَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا فَتَمَسَّکُمُ النَّارُ ... ﴾ “And do not incline to those who are unjust, lest the fire touch you…”23 d. The Holy Qur’an has called a ruler who does not rule and judge according to what Allah has revealed to be an unbeliever [kafir]. It says, ﴿ ... وَمَنْ لَمْ يحْکُمْ بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللهُ فَأُولَئِکَ هُمُ الْکَافِرُونَ ﴾ “… and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the kafirs.”24 All Muslims agree that obeying and following an unbeliever is not permissible. 2. These hadiths are opposed to Qur’anic verses which prove that it is forbidden to follow and obey sinners There are a lot of verses in the Holy Qur’an which have unconditionally and generally (in such a way that no limitations are mentioned) forbidden obeying anyone who is well-known for sin, regardless of whether he is a caliph, sultan and imam or otherwise. a. Allah, the Exalted says, ﴿ فَلا تُطِعِ المُکَذِّبِينَ ﴾ “So do not yield to the rejecters.”25 b. “And yield not to any mean swearer.”26 ﴿ وَلاَ تُطِعْ کُلَّ حَلّاَّفٍ مَهِينٍ ﴾ c. “And be not compliant to the unbelievers and the hypocrites.”27 ﴿ وَلاَ تُطِعِ الکَافِرِينَ وَالمُنَافِقِينَ ... ﴾ d. “And do not obey the bidding of the extravagant.”28 ﴿ وَلاَ تُطِيعُوا أَمْرَ المُسرِفِينَ * الَّذِينَ يفْسِدُونَ فِي الأَرْضِ وَلاَ يُصْلِحُونَ ﴾ e. “Therefore wait patiently for the command of your Lord, and obey not from among them a sinner or an ungrateful one.”29 ﴿ فَاصْبِر لِحُکْمِ رَبِّکَ وَلاَ تُطِعْ مِنْهُمْ آثمِاً أَوْ کَفُوراً ﴾ f. “And do not follow him whose heart we have made unmindful to Our remembrance, and he follows his low desires and his case is one in which due bounds are exceeded.”30 ﴿ ... وَلا تُطِعْ مَنْ أَغْفَلْنَا قَلْبَهُ عَنْ ذِکْرِنَا وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ وَکَانَ أَمْرُهُ فُرُطاًَ ﴾ g. “On the day when their faces shall be turned back into the fire, they shall say: O would that we had obeyed Allah and obeyed the Apostle! And they shall say: O our Lord! Surely we obeyed our leaders and our great men, so they led us astray from the path; O our Lord! Give them a double punishment and curse them with a great curse.”31 ﴿ يومَ تُقَلَّبُ وُجُوهُهُمْ فِي النَّارِ يقُولُونَ يا لَيْتَنَا أَطَعْنَا اللهِ وَأَطَعْنَا الرَّسُولا * وَقَالُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّا أَطَعْنَا سَادَتَنَا وَکُبَرَاءَنَا فَأَضَلُّونَا السَّبِيلا * رَبَّنَا آتِهِمْ ضِعْفَيْنِ مِنَ الْعَذَابِ وَالْعَنْهُمْ لَعْناً کَبِيراً ﴾ h. “And do not incline to those who are unjust, lest the fire touch you, and you have no guardians besides Allah, then you shall not be helped.”32 ﴿ وَلاَ تَرْکَنُوا إِلَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا فَتَمَسَّکُمُ النَّارُ ... ﴾ 3. These hadiths are opposed to the Qur’anic verses which prove that enjoining the good and forbidding the evil is incumbent upon Muslims In the Holy Qur’an, Allah, the Exalted, has ordered people in general or specific ways that they should enjoin the good and forbid the evil. This generality covers all people from all walks of life, the rulers and the ruled alike. Enjoining the good and forbidding the evil [amr bi’l-ma‘ruf wa nahy ‘an al-munkar] takes various forms, among them: Allah, the Exalted, says, ﴿ وَلتَکُنْ مِنْکُمْ أُمَّةٌ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى الخَيْرِ وَيَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعرُوفِ وَيَنْهَونَ عَنِ المُنْکَرِ وَأُولئِکَ هُمُ المُفْلِحُونَ ﴾ “And from among you there should be a party who invite to good and enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong, and these it is that shall be successful.”33 And, He also says, ﴿ کُنْتُمْ خَيْرَ أُمَّةٍ أُخْرِجَتْ لِلنّاسِ تَأْمُرُونَ بِالمَعْرُوفِ وَتَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ المُنْکَرِ وَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللهِ ... ﴾ “You are the best of nations raised up for the benefit of mankind; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah...”34 And He also says, ﴿ لُعِنَ الَّذينَ کَفَرُوا مِنْ بَني إِسْرائيلَ عَلي لِسانِ داوُدَ وَعيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ذلِکَ بِما عَصَوا وَکانُوا يَعْتَدُونَ * کانُوا لا يَتَناهَونَ عَنْ مُنْکَرٍ فَعَلُوهُ لَبِئْسَ ما کانُوا يَفْعَلُونَ ﴾ “Those who disbelieved from among the children of Israel were cursed by the tongue of David and Jesus, son of Mary; this was because they disobeyed and used to exceed the limit. They used not to forbid each other the hateful things they did; certainly evil was that which they did.”35 5. These hadiths are opposed to hadiths of the Ahl al-Bayt (عليه السلام) a. In interpreting the Qur’anic verse, ﴿ لاَ ينَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ ﴾ “My covenant does not include the unjust: said He.”39 Suyuti quotes ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib (عليه السلام) saying, “Obedience is only in good and virtuous acts.” b. Tabari and other historians narrate that while Imam al-Husayn (عليه السلام) was on his way towards Kufah, he stopped at Baydah’s house. There, he addressed the people in this way, “O People! Allah’s Prophet (S) said, ‘Any person who sees an oppressive sultan making illegal that which is lawful [halal], breaking Allah’s covenant, opposing the sunnah of Allah’s Prophet (S), conducting himself in a sinful and tyrannical way among Allah’s servants (the people) and does not speak out against such a sultan in order to bring about change; it becomes binding upon Allah to throw this apathetic person where he belongs, in Hell’.”40 c. Tabari and other historians narrate that in his reply to the letter which the people had written to him, al-Husayn ibn ‘Ali (عليه السلام) wrote, “I swear upon my own soul! No one is an imam, unless he acts according to the Book of Allah, and is equitable and just. He does what is right, and restrains his passions for the sake of Allah.”41 d. Tabari and other historians have also narrated that al-Husayn ibn ‘Ali (عليه السلام) addressed Walid in this way, “O Amir! We are the Ahl al-Bayt of the Holy Prophet, the abode of the prophetic mission, the place of frequentation of the angels, and the place of divine revelation. It is through us that Allah begins and ends things. Yazid is a drinker of wine and a killer of innocent people. He publicly commits sins and immorality; a person such as I cannot pay allegiance to him.”42 Who is Imam al-Husayn (عليه السلام)? Imam al-Husayn (عليه السلام) is a person who, according to the explicit wording of the Qur’anic Verse of Purification [ayah al-tathir], is infallible [ma‘sum]. Allah’s Prophet (S) said this about him, «الحسن والحسين سيدا شباب اهل الجنة.» “Al-Hasan and al-Husayn are the two leaders of the youths of Paradise.”43 The Holy Prophet (S) also said, «حسين منّي وأنا من حسين.» “Al-Husayn is from me and I am from al-Husayn.”44 Elsewhere, he said, «خير رجالکم علي بن أبي طالب، وخير شبابکم الحسن والحسين، وخير نساءکم فاطمة بنت محمد.» “The best man among you is ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib. The best youths among you are al-Hasan and al-Husayn. The best woman among you is Fatimah, the daughter of Muhammad.”45 Ibn ‘Abbas says, “The Holy Prophet (S) said, ‘On the night that I went on the ascension [mi‘raj], I saw it written in heaven, «لا إله إلاّ الله، محمّد رسول الله، علي حبّ (حبيب) الله، الحسن والحسين صفوة الله، فاطمة أمَة الله (خيرة الله)، على باغضهم لعنة الله.» “There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is his Prophet, ‘Ali is Allah’s beloved, al-Hasan and al-Husayn are Allah’s chosen ones and Fatimah is Allah’s servant. Allah’s curse and wrath be upon anyone who harbors hatred in their heart for them’.”46 B. Response to the false claim that it is binding upon all Muslims to preserve the system That which can be inferred from the reasons put forward by those who oppose rising up against a corrupt and perverted caliph is that preserving political and social structures of the Muslims is binding and incumbent [wajib]. However, it has to be borne in mind that preserving any kind of power structure is not wajib. The only political system that must be preserved is an Islamic government whose leader is just and acts according to Allah’s orders as noted in Qur’anic verses. This kind of government and its ruler must be preserved. There is no reason to oppose such a government. However, if the political system rules ‘in the name of Islam’ but its leaders are corrupt and perverted, then preserving such a power structure is not wajib at all. On the contrary, an uprising must take place in order to establish an Islamic political system and exterminate a corrupt and oppressive political system. That is exactly what Imam al-Husayn (عليه السلام) did: he rose up against the corrupt and oppressive political system of Yazid, the son of Mu‘awiyah, and kept true Islam alive. https://al-islam.org/uprising-ashura-and-responses-doubts-ali-asghar-ridwani/obeying-tyranical-ruler-incumbent-upon
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You have failed so far to provide a single hadith for the Immmah of Zaid bin Ali and more than 100 so called pseudo imams. Just you are trying to defend the false principle followed by Zadiys like Sunni defend saqeefa pick and choose principle. Immaah of 12 Imams defined by clear hadith and verses of quran with analysis in todays's world that i have presented in my last post. Wasallam
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Muflehun? ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ The following research confirms the above statement: ٥٨_٢٢ لَّا تَجِدُ قَوْمًۭا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْءَاخِرِ يُوَآدُّونَ مَنْ حَآدَّ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ وَلَوْ كَانُوٓا۟ ءَابَآءَهُمْ أَوْ أَبْنَآءَهُمْ أَوْ إِخْوَٰنَهُمْ أَوْ عَشِيرَتَهُمْ ۚ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ كَتَبَ فِى قُلُوبِهِمُ ٱلْإِيمَٰنَ وَأَيَّدَهُم بِرُوحٍۢ مِّنْهُ ۖ وَيُدْخِلُهُمْ جَنَّٰتٍۢ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَٰرُ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَا ۚ رَضِىَ ٱللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا۟ عَنْهُ ۚ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ حِزْبُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ أَلَآ إِنَّ حِزْبَ ٱللَّهِ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ The verses mentions that حِزْبَ ٱللَّهِ They are Allah’s confederates. Look! The confederates of Allah are indeed felicitous! إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ٱلَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ وَهُمْ رَٰكِعُونَ 005:055 Your guardian is only Allah, His Messenger, and the faithful who maintain the prayer and give the zakat while bowing down. وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ فَإِنَّ حِزْبَ ٱللَّهِ هُمُ ٱلْغَٰلِبُونَ 005:056 Whoever takes for his guardians Allah, His Messenger and the faithful [should know that] the confederates of Allah are indeed the victorious. Thus the above discussion confirms that the followers of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and 11 Imams after him are the felicitous ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ
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Imam Al-Muntazer (Mahdi) AS and Present time
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Part 2: Geographical and Political conditions This part is being presented in order to mention the geographical (for various region of the world) and political conditions stated in the hadith of the prophet and imams regarding the Appearance of 12th Imam Al Mahdi (عليه السلام). These are described in the following: 1. Europe: (Summary for important aspects) “Appearance of Imam Mahdi AS and the last days hadith include the details of Rome that means European nations. It includes America and these are sons and inheritors of the kingdom of Rome. The verse Nos. 21 & 22 of Sura Rome and Verse No. 12 & 21 of Sura Al-Kahaf mention partners to Allah, Their party & followers that means those nations and parties those claim to follow the Jesus Christ. The leadership of these was in hands of Italian & Rome of Qustuntunia (Istanbul) and afterwards western nations became their inheritors”. “Hadiths include that Large ships of people of Rome (European and American nations) will move towards Arab countries before the Appearance of Imam Mahdi”. It is narrated from Imam Muhammad Baqir (عليه السلام) that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will grant victory to believers by the Appearance of Imam Al-Mahdi (عليه السلام)., that Mahdi has been granted victory over Rome. Hadith also mention that Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) (with his army) will fight against Turk, It is narrated from Imam Jafar Sadiq (عليه السلام) “First flag will be installed by Imam Mahi (عليه السلام) that will be sent by him (عليه السلام) towards Turk. So the Turk will be defeated. Their properties, will be taken as booty and their people will get prison. After that Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) will move to Syria and this Country / Syria will be conquered.” (Page no. 84-88, Asr e Zahoor (The Time of Appearance), by Allama Ali Al Korani, Urdu version) -
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Imam Al-Muntazer (Mahdi) AS and Present time
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1- The prediction of white death has possibly been fulfilled as it seems referring to death by Covid-19. The prediction of Red death it looks we are passing now keeping in view the oppression by Israel, America and other nations who are their allies. 2- We should be pious and wait with patience for his ie Imam Mahdi reappearance. Glad tidings to you that the Almighty Allah has surrounded you with His mercy. 3- “In the time of the Qaim, a believer who is in the east would be able to see his brother who is in the west and in the same way one who is in the west would be able to see his brother in the east.” keeping in view the media including social media this prediction has been completed. 4- Imam Mahdi will be severe with Arabs, in general this statement is linked with the present condition of most of Arab countries who are just silent observer of the situation of Ghaza, Syria while Israel going and taking control on their lands without any resistance. wasallam -
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Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
Muslim2010 replied to StrangerInThisWorld's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Thanks for your remarks. As far as categories defined inline with the verses of quran which mainly address the happenings during the life of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). The caliphs can be placed in the second category. But keeping in view their role for events after the life of the prophet s.aw. ie astrocities towards the progeny of the prophet this does not remain the same but it may be taken to third category. wasalam -
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Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
Muslim2010 replied to StrangerInThisWorld's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Thanks for your comments but you have failed to provide a single hadith for the Immmah of Zaid bin Ali and more than 100 so called pseudo imams. Just you are trying to defend the false principle followed by Zadiys like Sunni defend saqeefa pick and choose principle. Immaah of 12 Imams defined by clear hadith and verses of quran with analysis in todays's world that i have presented in my last post. wasallam -
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Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
Muslim2010 replied to StrangerInThisWorld's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
There is no 3rd option that lies in Quran. This is only the extension of those who follow the Saqeefa pick and choose principle. Hadith of 12 imams and their confirmation in today's world by Quran is a definite principle and its further established details / verification can be seen at the given link: wasalam -
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Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
Muslim2010 replied to StrangerInThisWorld's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Thanks for confirming the 12vers view that there is no hadith ever mentioning the Zaid bin Ali an Imam. wasallam -
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Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
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Would you please mention a single hadith for the imams of Zaidis naming them as Imams chosen after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) from shia or sunni sources? OR even simple hadith mentioning the name of Zaid bin Ali as Imam after the Imam Ali bin Hussain from the progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). This is necessary to just verification of your claims for spreading the false zaidis assumptions in this thread. wasallam -
The angels who come to momin are named Mobashir and Bashir. Ameerul Momineen (عليه السلام) comes in the graves to help His Shia with the answering of the questions. Moula Ali (عليه السلام) does not pay attention to those who were His enemies. Here are the questions which will be asked in the grave and their correct replies. Who is your Lord? Allah is my Lord. 2. What is your religion? Islam is my religion. 3. Who is your prophet? Muhammad (عليه السلام) is my prophet. 4. Who is your Imam & wali? Ali (عليه السلام) ibn Abi Talib (عليه السلام) is my imam and wali. 5. What is your book? Quran is my book. 6. What is your Qibla? Kaaba Khana is my Qibla. Shiavault - a Vault of Shia Islamic Books
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Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
Muslim2010 replied to StrangerInThisWorld's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Are you not aware of history in islam brother? -
Were the Shaykhayn like angels or were they evil?
Muslim2010 replied to StrangerInThisWorld's topic in Shia/Sunni Dialogue
For shia interpretation it means Imam Ali (عليه السلام) as others did not comply the condition of obeying in goodness rather others obeyed them (shaikhain) in their actions like burning or threatening to burn the house of the daughter of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and keeping her devoid of rights like fadak etc.