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The above part of your reply is agreed in the light of verses of quran as quoted in last post.

This needs attention from Mods please. @starlight @notme

The same is practic of leaving is followed by those who do not intend to be a part, but if this continues there is doubt that it may eliminate or severely affect the saying of prayers on Eid in our setup and more may come in the name of azadari only instead of celebrating eid as advised by imams. . wasalam

This statement needs the following two points in reply: 1. There are many verses n Quran that mentions Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) send lanah on various groups or factions like kufar, munafiqeen enemies of the prophet, enemies of Angels etc. There is not time limit defined in quran for sending this Curse / Lanah . This means when these verses are recited lanah to those factions is sent as mentioned in these verses. For example: إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَمَاتُوا وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ أُولَٰئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَعْنَةُ اللَّهِ وَالْمَلَائِكَةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all; (2;161) أُولَٰئِكَ جَزَاؤُهُمْ أَنَّ عَلَيْهِمْ لَعْنَةَ اللَّهِ وَالْمَلَائِكَةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ (As for) these, their reward is that upon them is the curse of Allah and the angels and of men, all together. 2. There are verses associated with the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and his purified progeny where their enemies and those rejected them are cursed in the verses of quran like: وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّهِمْ وَيَقُولُ الْأَشْهَادُ هَٰؤُلَاءِ الَّذِينَ كَذَبُوا عَلَىٰ رَبِّهِمْ ۚ أَلَا لَعْنَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى الظَّالِمِينَ And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah? These shall be brought before their Lord, and the witnesses shall say: These are they who lied against their Lord. Now surely the curse of Allah is on the unjust. (11:18) إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُؤْذُونَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَعَنَهُمُ اللَّهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا Surely (as for) those who speak evil things of Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and the here after, and He has prepared for them a chastisement bringing disgrace. (33:57) فَمَنْ حَاجَّكَ فِيهِ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَنِسَاءَنَا وَنِسَاءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْكَاذِبِينَ But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars. (3:61) Would you like to stop the Laanh on kufars and munafiqeen as those who have died earlier but the verses are still part of Quran for lanah /curse on them?

Sister the problem is faced in Indo Pak when just after the prayer of Eid a group comes in and begin the majalis and perfrom the Matmdari etc on this day. Claiming that it is the 10th day just after the matyrdom of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) so we should not celebrate eid . The above quoted hadith in OP or similar is presented and practically the sayings of imams for eid day are violated. This may be observed at some locations. I have already posted a thread for sayings of Imams about Eid in the last post. The link is also given below: Keeping in view above scenario OP has rightly presented this thread, wasalam

The curse is a general term but it means to send Lanah on enemies of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and his purified family. This is necessary to disassociate ourselves from enemies of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and his purified progeny (عليه السلام). This lanah should be sent as described in sayings of imams like mentioned in Ziarate Ashura and other duas of Imams. This should not exagearted beyond the words quoted in the ziarat and Duas.

The lecture describes the event attributed to some scholar who was student of Sheikh Bahai who called the Ruh of Sheikh Bahai. This refers to the Zikr that should be recited for 10 days after the fajar Prayer and just after the Tasbeeh. This should be started on Friday and end on Sunday after 10 days. This zikr is attributed to Sheikh Bahai. The words are mentioned below: بسم اللہ ا لر حمن الر حیم، یا مفتح الابواب ، یا مقلب القلوب ا الا بصار، و یا دلیل المتحیرین، و یا غیاث المستغثین، توکلت علیک یا رب، وقض حا جتی، وقف مھمی، و لا حول ولا قوۃ الا باللہ العلی العظیم، و صلی اللہ علی محمد و آلہ اجمعین، I have mentioned the words as closely as possible derived from the lecture for sake of information. However, Its authenticity may be verified by some knowledgeable members at SC. @Mahdavist

The first part of your statement is correct. The matter is crystal clear with the permission by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) as mentioned in the verse: Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise. (66:2) When it is sanctioned by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) there is no acceptance of any action as transgression, unless the verse quoted above is taken out of the Quran or it is considered rejected. As far as some misquoted word called here reprimand is concerned the matter was about the wives of the prophet and the subsequent verses makes it clear that wives of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) have been reprimanded and no one else: إِن تَتُوبَا إِلَى اللَّهِ فَقَدْ صَغَتْ قُلُوبُكُمَا وَإِن تَظَاهَرَا عَلَيْهِ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ مَوْلَاهُ وَجِبْرِيلُ وَصَالِحُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ ظَهِيرٌ If you both turn to Allah, then indeed your hearts are already inclined (to this); and if you back up each other against him, then surely Allah it is Who is his Guardian, and Jibreel and -the believers that do good, and the angels after that are the aiders. The reprimand about the wives continues in the following verses: عَسَىٰ رَبُّهُ إِن طَلَّقَكُنَّ أَن يُبْدِلَهُ أَزْوَاجًا خَيْرًا مِّنكُنَّ مُسْلِمَاتٍ مُّؤْمِنَاتٍ قَانِتَاتٍ تَائِبَاتٍ عَابِدَاتٍ سَائِحَاتٍ ثَيِّبَاتٍ وَأَبْكَارًا [Shakir]: Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins. (66:5) Then verse mentions two examples of the wives who were disbelievers but they were wives of saleh momineen. These include wife of Lut (عليه السلام). and the wife of Nuh (عليه السلام). The verses also then mention two examples of the women one the wife of Firon (who himself was disbeliever) and the Maraym AS. The following verses are also presented in support of my view: يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ إِن كُنتُنَّ تُرِدْنَ الْحَيَاةَ الدُّنْيَا وَزِينَتَهَا فَتَعَالَيْنَ أُمَتِّعْكُنَّ وَأُسَرِّحْكُنَّ سَرَاحًا جَمِيلًا O Prophet! say to your wives: If you desire this world's life and its adornment, then come, I will give you a provision and allow you to depart a goodly departing (33:28) يَا نِسَاءَ النَّبِيِّ مَن يَأْتِ مِنكُنَّ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُّبَيِّنَةٍ يُضَاعَفْ لَهَا الْعَذَابُ ضِعْفَيْنِ ۚ وَكَانَ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرًا O wives of the prophet! whoever of you commits an open indecency, the punishment shall be increased to her doubly; and this is easy to Allah. (33:30) وَمَن يَقْنُتْ مِنكُنَّ لِلَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَتَعْمَلْ صَالِحًا نُّؤْتِهَا أَجْرَهَا مَرَّتَيْنِ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهَا رِزْقًا كَرِيمًا And whoever of you is obedient to Allah and His Messenger and does good, We will give to her her reward doubly, and We have prepared for her an honorable sustenance.(33:31) وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَىٰ ۖ وَأَقِمْنَ الصَّلَاةَ وَآتِينَ الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ And stay in your houses and do not display your finery like the displaying of the ignorance of yore; and keep up prayer, and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Messenger. (33:33) Now the following verses describe about the status of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) as mentioned in the verses of Quran: وَإِذْ يَقُولُ الْمُنَافِقُونَ وَالَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌ مَّا وَعَدَنَا اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ إِلَّا غُرُورًا And when the hypocrites and those in whose hearts was a disease began to say: Allah and His Messenger did not promise us (victory) but only to deceive. (33:12) لَّقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِّمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much. (33:21) وَلَمَّا رَأَى الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْأَحْزَابَ قَالُوا هَٰذَا مَا وَعَدَنَا اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَصَدَقَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ ۚ وَمَا زَادَهُمْ إِلَّا إِيمَانًا وَتَسْلِيمًا And when the believers saw the allies, they said: This is what Allah and His Messenger promised us, and Allah and His Messenger spoke the truth; and it only increased them in faith and submission. (33:22) وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ وَلَا مُؤْمِنَةٍ إِذَا قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمْرًا أَن يَكُونَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِمْ ۗ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا مُّبِينًا And it behoves not a believing man and a believing woman that they should have any choice in their matter when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter; and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he surely strays off a manifest straying. (33:36) إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا Surely Allah and His angels bless the Prophet; O you who believe! call for (Divine) blessings on him and salute him with a (becoming) salutation. (33:56) إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُؤْذُونَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَعَنَهُمُ اللَّهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا Surely (as for) those who speak evil things of Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and the here after, and He has prepared for them a chastisement bringing disgrace. (33:57) To conclude my words about the prophet s,aw i here quote the following verses: قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ اللَّهَ فَاتَّبِعُونِي يُحْبِبْكُمُ اللَّهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ ۗ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ Say: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL (3:31) قُلْ أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ ۖ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْكَافِرِينَ Say: Obey Allah and the Messenger; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers. (3:32) wasalam

Please mention it so that me or some one else more knowledgeable can look on it,

I do not know about it, Would you please provide some reference for it?

Imam Ali (عليه السلام) has defined Eid as: 'Any day that is free of rebellion (or disobedience) against Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).' Imam Al-Baqir (عليه السلام) also reminded us of the sadness that accompanies the day of Eid, the sadness of the usurpation of the rights of the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) and the violation of human rights. The Imam of our Time, Imam Al-Asr (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف), has captured this sadness in the Du'a Nudbah (Supplication of Lamentation), which has been recommended to recite on Eid.

The companions are not equal in rank to the Ahl labayt (عليه السلام) in any manner and there is no comparison of the nation of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) to the purified progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) .

I like the raised relevant points. I also await if you would make your member profile so that i can mention "likes" for it. wasalam

The information is self explanatory and there is no need of giving any further details about it. Just keeping the eyes closed from the truth by any one does not reduce its importance.

Brother I do not know about the authenticity of the narration given in OP but I mention here the following link that describes the importance of day of Eid in the light of sayings of Masomeen (عليه السلام): wasalam