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igat1969

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  1. Good for the women. Hopefully they killed and will continue to kill a lot of the ISIS swine that the Mid-East countries don't seem to be able to deal with on their own.
  2. Strong women can save the Middle East! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782092/Mystery-surrounds-fate-Kurdish-female-fighter-poster-girl-reports-emerge-killed-bullet-avoid-taken-hostage-ISIS.html A Kurdish woman fighting Islamic State militants carried out a suicide bomb attack to slow their advance on a besieged Syrian town, it was claimed today. Deilar Kanj Khamis, known by the nom de guerre Arin Mirkan, blew herself up at an IS position east of the border town, killing ten jihadists. It was the first known case of a female Kurdish fighter carrying out a suicide bomb against IS. According to tributes on Twitter, she was a mother with two children, though this was unconfirmed. While there is little else known about the woman, she was a member of the Women’s Protection Unit, a branch of the Peoples Protection Units (YPG). The force has more than 10,000 female fighters who played a major role in the battles against the IS group. Yesterday the force suggested all of their fighters would martyr themselves if it meant defeating IS and protecting the pivotal border town. A press release from the People’s Defence Unit read: ‘As a result of remarkable resistance by our units on the axes of the city, repelling the invading attacks, 15 of our comrades martyred in action after facing the mercenaries with all the strength. ‘Of our martyrs was valiant comrade Arin, she was able to perform a fedai action and kill dozens of ISIS mercenaries and stop their advance, such strong will and determination shown by comrade Arin will be the spirit of resistance in the hearts of all our combatants of the People’s Defence Units and Women’s Defense Units. ‘If necessary, all our fighters will be comrade Arin and shall not allow the mercenaries reach their wishes at whatever cost.’ The YPG had earlier called on all Kurds to join the fight against IS as the radical group edged closer to the centre of the city near the Turkish border.
  3. As a self-proclaimed American you should have some belief in the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. "We hold these truths that all people are created equal and are endowed by their creator with some inalienable rights, among them are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." America's founding documents created a largely secular state that allows the "pursuit of happiness" among many other things. Making pornographic movies is not illegal, just as developing microchips and cancer treatments is not illegal. People all over the world (including the Middle East) watch the porno movies and people from all over the world benefit from the cancer treatments and microchips developed here. I use the term "people" broadly because I'm sure we can agree that swine such as Al Quaeda do not really qualify as people. :mellow: The reason that America is hated so much across the World is that dictatorial leaders and their stooges (e.g., the Anti-Islamic Republican Guard) are afraid that their own people will recognize the moral nature of the US government (governing by the consent of the governed) and want the same thing for themselves (e.g., the Arab Spring). Now, if you are benefitting from the dictatorship (e.g., Syria) or special privileges accorded to you by a quasi-governmental but for-profit organization (the Anti-Islamic Republican Guard), would you want your position threatened by your people wanting a government by the people for the people? Heck no, you will go on plundering your country, raping you little boys and generally not caring about what is best for your country but focusing on what is best for you. Being raised on learning to chant "Death to America" instead of science will ensure that many people will hate America but none of your people will have the requisite education to develop the next generation of microchips and cancer treatments, thus ensuring future flows of money to that country you hate so much - America :shifty: Good points. How many Nobel prizes in the sciences have been awarded to Iranians (in Iran) since the Revolution? Perhaps a bit less of "Death to America" and a bit more of F = m*a would be a good thing for the educational system. The point of your article seems to be that the US as a part of its foreign policy kills people. Of course it does! There are so many America haters, that in order to safeguard itself, it has to. Aren't you glad that Osama bin Laden was executed and that Al Quaeda is on the run? I suppose you don't believe Sept 11 or the Holocaust happened, but most educated people do. (Most that don't are either running the Iranian Government, or have never been to Germany, or both :shifty:) It's a dangerous world out there and I am glad that the US is finally getting and using intelligence to target enemies that pose a credible threat (not the schooloys and girls learning to chant "Death to America" in Iran's schools, but the Wahabbi swine coming out of the Saudi system). Finally White Skies, it seems to me that not too long ago, Iran executed about 20,000 of its own citizens over a course of a decade. Oh, don't they teach that in Iranian schools? Pot, kettle, black.
  4. Living in America is safer than in many less developed countries, but less so than in most other advanced economies. The largest proportion of people that are murdered are not Muslims, Sikhs or Hindus, they are economically disadvantaged black people, killed by other economically disadvantaged black people in poor neighborhoods throughout the US. Most Americans do not stand for the type of hate that is indicated in the AlJazeera editorial above. She will be tried and hopefully never live free again. I'd like to know what proportion of Christian haters, women haters and Shia haters in the Middle East are tried and punished for their violent crimes against minority groups. Great countries create environments where all kinds of people, with all kinds of religious beliefs can live free lives. While there clearly is a lot to be improved, America by that definition is still one of the great countries.
  5. What planet do all these Assad apologists come from? Just because someone was my friend years ago, does not mean they will remain that way forever. Hitler may have been a nice youth (purely speculation), but as an adult he turned into a monster. Assad was not willing to work with others and cede power, perhaps if he had, things would not have gotten as out of hand as they have. Most of the world (including many formerly in his inner circle) has figured out that Ass ad does not govern by the consent of the governed and have dropped their support for him in favor of the insurgency. Iran would be well-served to recognize that their support for this monster would be much like support from the hypothetical Hitler friend as that man turned into a monster. Put another way, your enemy's enemy is not necessarily your friend or a good friend. Supporting Bashar because the US, UK, (and most of the rest of the World) don't support the murder of 60K civilians does not make the murder of the 60K civilians a good thing. These murders were on Bashar's watch and he is responsible. The Saddam analogy by Propaganda of the Deed is a good one. The best we can hope for Ass ad is that he will get a trial and be hanged like Saddam. I suspect that he more likely will face a less glorious end like Gaddaffi..and I won't cry for him.
  6. Christianlady..very brave to deal with this much ignorance (largely due to uninformed people posting here) in one place!
  7. Roachy, of course you can be mad at someone. Killing other people that had nothing to do with the movie is just silly. To get a sense of how the Western World views this tragegy, do a Google search on the following terms "No One Murdered Because Of This Image" on a short article published by the Onion. The people that attacked the embassy showed no discipline or ability to control their impulses. I would think those qualities would be considered bad by most religions.
  8. I don't think the voice of the US (based on Secretary Clinton's statement below) is very different on this. I guess I don't fully understand Ayatollah Khamenie's role and stature, but why isn't has using this opportunity to restrain against the violence that this movie sparked? Is his apparent silence on that issue suggesting the he as a leader of Islam quietly supports the violence? http://news.yahoo.com/secretary-clinton-delivers-powerful-religion-speech-middle-east-034054319--abc-news-politics.html First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
  9. They Syrian government has no legitimacy. Being a supporter/supported by their Iranian stooges does not give them a right to kill thousands of their own citizens in their bloodthirsty grab for power. The people of Syria deserve freedom from Iranian, anti-democratic mingling and from their deadly home grown regime.
  10. Syria is being ruined by an unjust, unelected dictator that is killing thousands of his own people to keep his grip on power. Period. Will things get better when Bashar is sent the way of the Shah, Hussein and Gaddafi? Hard to say as the military is very strong and well-organized. It depends on if the military respects the will of the people or (like the anti-Revolutionary Guard in Iran) they look out for their own political and financial interests and seek to gain at the expense of the population. It is also possible that for some period there is a power struggle between a variety of factions. The point is the people have spoken. Hey, hey...ho, ho...ass Asses & Assads have to go! Power to the people and good riddance Bashar. Democracy is a [Edited Out] and she's pro-creating, making it difficult for those that seek to enslave the people of the Mid-east using the guise of Islam as a false shield for their ungodly and unjust actions.
  11. Titimu, this is a pretty good, nuanced argument unlike those of most of the Qud & anti-Revolutionary Guard stooges are always making on Shiachat. It doesn't change that 9/11 was planned and carried out by Muslims, but it does tell a more complete story. The US made some big mistakes in who it supported in the past. It had the simple belief that "my enemies' enemies are my friends." Didn't work out well for the US (and won't work out well for those nations trying that today). Muslimy Muslim, Akritas' advice sounds solid. Your friend (or ex-friend?) has a belief held by many Westerners. I don't know your/his age, but it's certainly common for many adults. They don't understand why Arabian Muslims and others were dancing in the streets celebrating when 9/11 happened. Of course, not all were, but enough. It becomes very difficult to have a nuanced view of "this Muslim" vs. "that Muslim" when one Muslim group (Saudi Arabian Wahabbi swine) plans to murder thousands of innocent people on US soil and other Muslim groups (e.g., in Palestine) dance when they learn about this. I realize that you seem to think that this was an inside job by the US Government and I think that you happen to be mis-informed on that issue. It baffles me how someone that is in the US and has the internet to get access to real information can believe that the US government is behind 9/11. It was a bunch of hateful Muslims that mis-interpreted the Koran due to a lack of wisdom in themselves and their religious leaders. They were probably mentally sick but thank Allah most of those Leaders met a violent death at the hands of US and other military. They are now rotting in hell wishing they had had more sense when they were alive than to follow such a sick view of Islam. You are right that the true patriot is not the one that does whatever the government tells him, but thinks for themselves about what is right and when required peacefully tries to change this. Examples from the Mid-East (e.g., Iran a couple of years ago, Egypt, Syria) abound. Going back a bit further in history you would find that the Civil Rights movement in the US or the Indian Independece movement were also led by true patriots. I'm sure you'll find a way to remain true to your patriotic ideals, be better informed and find/keep suitable friends! Good luck
  12. I'm not watching the video, but if Mahtir said that he is a poor leader and probably put on Chemicals by Al Quaeda. American had been attacked by Muslims before 9/11 (e.g., Kenya) and these buffoons had also previously tried to bomb NYC in the 90's but failed so it's not surprising that someone in US Congress would talk about these threats in 1999. I saw the following posted on another site: I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. Naval Marshall General Isoroku Yamamoto Many people say Americans have short memories. I say the members of al qaeda (and many Shia chat members) are poor students of history. ... To those that attacked an unprovoked United States of America. Let me know how that worked out for you. We will never forget. The rest of the world might also take note
  13. The Syrian regime is a murderous regime that is not governing by the consent of its people. It has now resorted to Iranian tactics of murdering peaceful protestors, including little children, in order to lengthen its illegitimate hold on power. It is time for Syria's people to be free of the swine ruling, but not leading them. It is overdue for Iran's people to be free of the swine ruling them as well. The freedom that Tunisians, Egyptians, Israelis and other soon to be democratic states have will expand (hopefully soon) to include Syria, Bahrain, Iran and of course Saudi Arabia. We take these truths to be self-evident, that people are endowed by their creator (Allah) with certain inalienable rights. It is time for these rights not to trampled in the Middle East by those usurping the role of Allah whether it be Iranian clerics or Syrian/Saudi secular dicatators. People of the Middle East unite against these power-grubbing anti-revolutionary forces. Ignore the Admins and other uneducated stooges of the Iranian regime on shiachat and other Iranian regime run webisites. There is nothing about being born in Syria/.Saudi Arabia that means you gave up their god-given rights to a unscrupulous, corrupt regime. There is nothing about being born in Iran that means people you up your rights to an anti-revolutionary Guard that sucks up the economic power of the country at the expense of the population in order to line their pockets. People of the Middle East will continue to throw off the shackles those that would control them. The current leaders and their stooges will burn in Hell. No virgins for you in the afterlife!
  14. Ok, I misread your point on the Russian Theaters. The rest of my point stands. You are a perfect example of a lot that is wrong with Muslims and Islam. Really? Do you also compare Jesus to underprivileged people that happen to grow up to become violent criminals? If all those groups have more to do with Bin Laden than they do with Rusdie, they are all in trouble - but I don't think they do. In some places actions speak louder than words. Rushdie WROTE a lot of books, one of which had a dream sequence that was very offensive to devoted Muslims as it put the prophet in a bad light. Osama KILLED thousands of people. Maybe Osama has read parts of the Koran and has Islamic beliefs- hard for me to know. Sort of doubt that he really understood much of the Koran. Reading a holy book and taking that as a reason to kill thousands of innocent civilians is barbaric. The most infamous time in history when this happened was in the Middle Ages and the outcome was not good for Muslims. You show the trait of a lot of folks on these websites. You make a mistake and dig in. Is it not possible for you to say "I'm sorry, that was offensive against another religion. I should try to get along with others. God would want me to." That was a rhetorical question, I know you can't - your actions on this board have shown that pretty clearly.
  15. Satyaban...that is priceless. Thanks for sharing...ignore the party poopers! Right on! I suspect a lot of the folks that make these arguments have never had the benefit of formal eduction or grappled with math or logic. The swine is dead and hopefully pictures will be out soon! I hope they took pictures of his tiny, tiny manhood and post that as well...nice to humiliate Al Quaida.
  16. This is not directed at you pakistanyar....Actually I think he's an American...at least US educated. I haven't read that book, but based on claims on ShiaChat it suggests 100M American Indians were killed. I doubt there were that many over here, so the number is highly suspect. Might he be on the payroll of the Iranian regime? America realizes that the treatment of the native Indians is a blot on the "pre" history of their country. What do you think about the rapes and murders of Indians my Mogul emperors over the centuries? I have not heard any Persian leaders apologize for their misdeeds. What about the continuing rapes of little boys by Muslim men in countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan? Why is this shameful practice not more openly discussed so that it can be eradicated? Nope, but they''re happy to wail about a few million Jews living in Israel. They are always denying the fact of the REAL Holocaust that happened in Europe in the early 1940's. Why is that? Why such a ridiculously high view of oneself that one can't recognize that one and ones forefathers were imperfect? Why not discuss that with your children so that they may one day try to build a better Islam and Islamic country than you have been able to build? To the OP: Of course he he was protected by Pakistan. That country has no reason for existence anymore. The people deserve better governance. India and Afghanistan would be good options as others suggested.
  17. Your lack of logic is only amplified by your lack of knowledge and lack of respect. Lack of respect - What gives a Muslim the right to compare the Buddha - a Holy Man to Bin Laden - a swine dog? How would you take me comparing the Prophet to Hitler? Lack of knowledge - BinLaden took credit for 9/11 and the USA has no interest in bombing Russian Theaters - bombing swine dogs protected by Pakistani Secret Service, but not Russian civilians. Lack of logic - Bin Laden is worse than Rushdie - if you were to try to make such an argument, you better have some very strong arguments. Saying that someone who has no respect for Islam is worse than a mass murderer is not something that most people would think is a mainstream or even an intelligent thought. You might consider reading and learning from others. Your views disgust me.
  18. Of course he was harbored by Pakistan...[Edited out] I am very glad the swine dog didn't die a natural death. I hope and pray that Allah made him suffer a long time with pain before the bloody end set . A fitting end for a worthless life. Long live the democracy and the USA.
  19. Ohh man...this is funny. How about Iran, it's undemocratic Rule by a self-appointed and perpetuating Shia elite and it's anti-Revolutionary Guard?
  20. Really "armed struggle"? What about the lessons of Gandhi, Martin Luther King & Nelson Mandela? Or dont' they teach that history where you went to school? Did the Egyptians amass weapons to overthrow their despot? Muslims wonder why people view them as living by the sword...maybe it's because there is a paucity of good ideas & philosophy that deserve support? Satyaban...very well said! I don't blame Khamenei for trying to influence the Egyptians to be more like him, but to say that countries that change regimes have to go the direction of an Islamic Revolution is absurd. Think India. Think South Africa. Read a bit more...all the answers aren't in forums with people that view the world through largely religious/sectarian lenses. Khamenei is probably feeling a little lonely...not too many Shia elite running countries against the wishes of their citizens. He'd welcome some fellow despots to feel more secure. What if the anti-Revolutionary Guard turn against him in their quest for money/power etc.
  21. Are they doing this because the people have the right to petition their governement to do the right thing and provide a more representative, less repressive regime - in which case I am willing to admit that I may have misjudged the Guard too harshly. ....or... .. are they letting the IRI know that they will only support them for ever more money & privileges. Remember the Guard does run a lot of multio billion dollar businesses. (It is not clear what running these businesses has to do with keeping Iran and Islamic nation). Thoughts?
  22. You must support the rape of Iranian boys and women by the Anti-Revolutionary Guard. You're not on topic...and apparently not very bright.
  23. Stefan a lot of the posters on here seem to be thugs - likely members of the anti-revolutionary "Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution." They basically think if you have something to say that is mildly critical of Iran, it will threaten their privileged place in society away. They don't understand that their privilege rests on obstructing the rights of the millions. They believe that "God" wants them to run billion dollar empires supposed for the good of the Islamic revolution, but actually just to keep those in power in power and oppress the masses. They are sort of like Hosni's stooges or Saddam's stooges...their days are numbered and they will burn in hell when they die. We can all thank God for that.
  24. "The Iranian Republic is always concerned about all sorts of inconsequential things." Kadhim, well said. Apparently even "whities" from the West have good points to make. ShiaSoldier786 - the West do have a higher moral ground in this. What was the "threat" that Iran is reacting to? Afghanistn & subsequently Guantanemo were a reaction to the murder of 3,000 Americans (of all religions) by Muslims supported by many other (though by no means all) Muslims. I too have a tough time seeing the "threat" to the Islamic Republic from people studying the Bible in their living rooms. Per the article, only 2% of the population are non-Muslims! Paranoid leaders with paranoid followers see threats everywhere to the detriment of their populations. It is sad that a 1400 year old religion is desecrated by "leaders" that forget that tolerance of others - including their religious beliefs - is a virtue. You can come worship in the US at anytime. No one will care! You can even try to convert people to your religion and no one will care. To Amir-Husayn's point, you will NOT be charged with proselytyzing. So yes..the West DO have the higher moral ground in this.
  25. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_christian_crackdown In Western countries, minorities (even Muslims) are protected from atrocities committed by those in the majority. Even India does a decent job in protecting Muslims - though they certainly could do better. In Iran, being a Christian is enough to get you arrested and being a Sufi is enough to get your house of worship destroyed. What good is a government that follows these types of inhumane policies? Why is Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei denouncing the growth of private house churches? Will this spell the end of Islam? Countries that are not able to assimilate their minorities (e.g., women, religious minorities, gays) will suffer economically and continue to lose prestige in the World. DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – Iran has arrested about 70 Christians since Christmas in a crackdown that demonstrates the limits of religious tolerance by Islamic leaders who often boast they provide room for other faiths. The latest raids have targeted grass-roots Christian groups Iran describes as "hard-liners" who pose a threat to the Islamic state. Authorities increasingly view them with suspicions that range from trying to convert Muslims to being possible footholds for foreign influence. Christian activists claim their Iranian brethren are being persecuted simply for worshipping outside officially sanctioned mainstream churches. Caught in the middle is the small community of Iranian Christians who get together for prayer and Bible readings in private residences and out of sight of authorities. They are part of a wider "house church" movement that has taken root in other places with tight controls on Christian activities such as China and Indonesia. Iran's constitution gives protected status to Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, but many religious minorities sense growing pressures from the Islamic state as hard-edged forces such as the powerful Revolutionary Guard exert more influence. There are few social barriers separating Muslims and Iran's religious minorities such as separate neighborhoods or universities. But they are effectively blocked from high government and military posts. Iran has claimed as a point of pride that it makes space for other religions. It reserves parliament seats for Jewish and Christian lawmakers and permits churches — Roman Catholic, Armenian Orthodox and others — as well as synagogues and Zoroastrian temples that are under sporadic watch by authorities. Religious celebrations are allowed, but no political messages or overtones are tolerated. In past years, authorities have staged arrests on Christians and other religious minorities, but the latest sweeps appears to be among the biggest and most coordinated. In the West, the followers are drawn to house churches because of the intimate sense of religious fellowship and as an alternative to established denominations. In places such as Iran, however, there also is the effort to avoid monitoring of sanctioned churches from Islamic authorities — who have kept closer watch on religious minorities since the chaos after hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's disputed election in 2009. Groups monitoring Christian affairs in the Islamic world say Iranian authorities see the unregulated Christian gatherings as both a potential breeding ground for political opposition and suspect they may try to convert Muslim in violation of Iran's strict apostasy laws — which are common throughout the Muslim world and have at times fed extremist violence against Christians and others. Tehran Governor Morteza Tamadon described the Christians as "hard-line" missionaries who have "inserted themselves into Islam like a parasite," according to the official Islamic Republic News Agency. He also suggested that the Christians could have links to Britain — an accusation within Iran that refers to political opposition groups Tehran claims are backed by the West. The crackdown by Iran resonates forcefully across the Middle East at a time when other Christian communities feel under siege following deadly attacks against churches in Egypt and Iraq — bloodshed that was noted Monday by Pope Benedict XVI in an appeal for protection of religious minorities. The suicide blast in Egypt's Mediterranean port of Alexandria on Jan. 1, which killed 21 Coptic Christian worshippers, followed threats by al-Qaida in Iraq over claims that Coptic leaders forced two women who converted to Islam to return to Christianity — allegations that church leaders deny. "It's the nature of the house churches that worries Iran. It's all about possible converts," said Fleur Brading, a researcher for Middle East and North Africa at Christian Solidarity Worldwide, a British-based group the follows Christian rights issues around the world. "It's a very specific and pinpoint strike by Iran." Iran's religious minorities represent about 2 percent of the population and include communities with deep connections to their faiths. Iran's ethnic Armenian minority dates back to early Christianity, and the Jewish celebration of Purim is built around the story of the Persian-born Esther. Even Iran's Islamic Revolution could not stamp out the influence of the pre-Muslim Zoroastrian faith, including its new year's holiday Norooz in March. The wave of arrests began Christmas morning and since then, opposition websites have reported 70 Christians arrested, including those regarded as pastors in the house church movement. Many were later released, but the reports say more than a dozen remain in detention and officials have hinted more raids are possible. It's still unclear what charges could be brought against the jailed Christians. But allegations of trying to convert Muslims could bring a death sentence. Brading, however, expects Iranian authorities could opt for political charges rather than religious-linked allegations to soften a possible international outcry. Iran is already struggling against a campaign opposing the death-by-stoning for an Iranian woman convicted of adultery as well as international pressure over its nuclear program. "The use of the word missionaries instead of evangelicals is an intentional move by the government," she said. "As evangelicals, they are a group entitled to their faith. As missionaries, they are enemies of the state seeking to corrupt its people." In recent months, some members of Iran's Armenian community also have been detained on unspecified allegations of working to undermine the state, the Iranian Christian News Agency reported. Iranian officials have not given details of the reported detentions. On Friday, a U.S. watchdog group on religious tolerance expressed concern over the recent arrests. "What's most troubling about this wave of detentions is the fact that Iran is continuing its recent trend of targeting evangelical Christians, which they've been doing for years, and also leaders from the recognized and protected Armenian Christian community," said Leonard Leo, chairman of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, an independent government advisory panel. Iranian authorities have come down hard on religious groups seen as threats to Islam, including the Baha'is whose faith was founded in the 19th century by a Persian nobleman considered a prophet by his followers. Baha'is are not recognized as official religious minority in Iran's Constitution. There are no accurate figures on the number of Christians in the "house church" movement or followers outside established denominations. But the manager of the Iranian Christian News Agency, Saman Kamvar, said authorities likely perceive some kind of challenge to the religious status quo and are "feeling insecure." Kamvar attributes the stepped up raids against Christians to comments last month by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei denouncing the growth of private house churches. "This, in my opinion, was a green light to the other authorities to crack down on them," Kamvar said from Canada, where he now lives.
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