Hezbollah condemns SOFA pact in Politics/Current Events Posted November 24, 2008 · Edited November 24, 2008 by Photi · Report reply as said before whatever hezbullah is saying is because they are looking for their own interests only. so why should iraqis care about the interest of hezbullah when hezbullah didnt care about the interest of iraqis pre-war.and regarding israel just like sayed khamenei would have relations with the us if it is in the interest of iran then why cant iraq have relations with isreal if it is in the interest or iraq!? oh and please care to tell me how the us war in iraq has benefitted the israeli state?! hypocrisy!!wallahu a3lami am not trying to say that iraq should not act in its interest. i am saying that its interest is fundamentally tied into the regional interest. given the arab world's central importance to the islamic world, we can by extension say that iraq's interest is intertwined with the islamic interest generally. the islamic interest, as i perceive it, should be sovereignty, genuine sovereignty, for all muslim nations even if (oh no!) those musim nations have to work together to achieve that end. on this basis, it is not just iraq who has something to say about iraq. as for how israel has benefitted, it is quite clear that saddam as a nationalist pan-arabist (pan-arabist of couse as long as the arabs saw him as their leader) was an open enemy to israel. getting rid of him got rid of a powerful albeit neutered enemy of israel. as long as the new regime is "responsible" with their status as leaders of iraq, israel is more secure, where 'responsible' means that iraq can have no political position outside of itself. if you read the SOFA document, the only true sovereignty is given to the United States forces on official duty regardless of where on Iraqi soil they may be. in a sense, it is like a fluid sovereign united states enclave that moves in tandem with and is intrinsic to "official US duty." sounds to me like iraq remains a client state. from here:The United States shall have the primary right to exercise jurisdiction over members ofthe United States Forces and of the civilian component for matters arising inside agreedfacilities and areas; during duty status outside agreed facilities and areas; and incircumstances not covered by paragraph 1.At the request of either Party, the Parties shall assist each other in the investigation ofincidents and the collection and exchange of evidence to ensure the due course of justice.Members of the United States Forces and of the civilian component arrested or detainedby Iraqi authorities shall be notified immediately to United States Forces authorities andhanded over to them within 24 hours from the time of detention or arrest. Where Iraqexercises jurisdiction pursuant to paragraph 1 of this Article, custody of an accusedmember of the United States Forces or of the civilian component shall reside with UnitedStates Forces authorities. United States Forces authorities shall make such accusedpersons available to the Iraqi authorities for purposes of investigation and trial.SOFA does give power to Iraq to demand 100% withdrawal of US forces at any time. it remains to be seen whether the US will honor that. i have my doubts. here is what Syed Fadlullah says about the attempts at colonialism and imperialism in the region and why it should be everyone's business:[this is from his biography on his official website]The Sayyid realized early on the central role of the Palestinian cause and considered the Zionist occupation of Palestine a prelude to the invasion of other Muslim and Arab countries. The Sayyid sees the Glorious Quran as a unifying book and a book of unity. He believes that the threat against the Arabs and Muslims is one and the same. His strategy in this field is based on his belief that the enemy tries to prevent any political social or even cultural attempts to draw Muslims closer. Thus the cause of Islamic unity is, in his view, as important as the liberation from the hegemony of certain arrogant international powers, since any kind of strength the Muslims acquire will undermine the latters` vital interests.assuming iraq is an independent iraqi concern whose national interest is limited to the borders of iraq is petty nationalism, given the history and the reality. i don't trust the imperial powers. they give no reason to believe they have anything but their own interests at heart.