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In the Name of God بسم الله


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  1. ...and you can sure as hell count that if the Ba'th regime is about to collapse with a shift in political alignment, a regional war will break out. Hezbollah isn't going to let the Israelis get away with it. You'll have chaos in all of Syria, you'll have chaos in Lebanon, and if the Israelis attack Syria, the pact with Iran specifies that the Iranian military will step in. You can easily see a regional conflict sparking here, and Iran will won't give shmuck if it had to close down the Hormuz strait.

    my thoughts exactly. The fates of Lebanon and Palestine will rise and fall with Syria and Egypt.

    Thank you, finally someone with a reasonable idea of why a chaotic "revolution" (obviously "coloured") will bring nothing but misery to Syrians.

    We've got good and bad people in government, what we need is reform, not "revolution". Syria needs to be as strong as possible for the final fight with the zionist entity.

    I was listening a to a news report a couple months back which stated the outlook PM Erdogan of Turkey has towards the region is "Evolution, not Revolution." Good little slogan but i have since not been able to find any quotes with the PM saying such things. Good slogan nonetheless.

  2. I wasn't talking about you. ;) You may know it and I may know it, but some of our friends here either don't know it and need to be told or are acting like they don't know it and need to be reminded. Everything I have heard suggests exactly what your last sentences says. People don't like the government but also don't want to end up as a second Iraq.

    There is good reason to believe Bashar al-Assad is right there with you. It is not as if the 'Old Guard' does not exist, peaceful change is a generational project. Some people around here are so quick to call for revolution in other peoples' societies. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. See Brother Ya Aba 3abdillah's comments over the last several pages.

    oh, and see Schrodinger's comments as well. Sounds like he has it all dialed in.

  3. It means treating humanity with dignity and respect.


    Speech given in 1987 at the UN by then President Khamenai of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Thanks to the Race for Iran blog for directing attention to this speech. I am only half way through so far, but it appears to be worth listening to several times. The imperialist [Edited Out]s have been up to their game now for a great many years, it is time now to face a reality based on Truth.

  4. Well said Qaim

    Photi - But they are revolting ( or protesting ). Do you have the right to say it all must be Zionist or Saudi or whoever else inspired, and not believe that most Syrians have a valid reason to protest?

    I do not recall stating that the Syrians do not have a valid reason to protest. The question to me is whether or not the people themselves wish to actually oust the regime. There is reason to doubt this prospect given Saudi, US, and Israeli plans for the region. I am giving weight to both sides. You, on the other hand, seem to doubt Israeli or Saudi involvement. Given the history of the region, this does not make sense.

  5. Well said Qaim

    Photi - But they are revolting ( or protesting ). Do you have the right to say it all must be Zionist or Saudi or whoever else inspired, and not believe that most Syrians have a valid reason to protest?

    There are conflicting reports all over the media beyond those which are state-controlled. Agents provocateurs can easily be inserted into a group of well-meaning protesters, and now with the Washington post publishing so-called secret cable proof of USA covert investment in destabilizing the government of Syria, the events on the ground are not exactly clear. To deny the imperial game is going on would be to not fully commit to understanding (or at least attempting to understand) these events. Wouldn't it be great for the Zionists to get a new face in Damascus willing to concede the Golan Heights? Protests do not equal calls for Regime Change.

  6. Yeah, he says

    The security forces – and we shall use the word "security" in quotation marks from here on – are fearful. There are long histories of torture and executions behind them and there are many within the military security apparatus inside Syria who are fearful of a riposte. For many years, the torture regime has imposed the most terrible revenge upon opponents of both the President and his father.

    In his desperate attempts to persuade Syrians that he can control his country, he has accused America, France and Lebanon of being responsible for the violence of demonstrators in his country.

    Nobody in Syria believes this. The idea that Lebanon – let alone America and France – can cause demonstrations is ridiculous.

    that's exactly why i posted it, i find him generally credible and he is saying the opposite of what i have been led to believe. i wish he would have commented on the current violence, not just the protests.

  7. There is no reason to believe these protests speak for the majority of the Syrian population. In Bahrain, Egypt and Tunisia, there is good reason to believe the revolts speak for the will of the people. Supporting human rights and democratic reforms is not the same thing as supporting revolution. By most accounts, the People of Syria still think reform is the way forward.

    what i meant about considering the area politics, do you really think foreign meddling is not taking place in Syria?

  8. The false hope of revolution in Syria

    quote from article:

    Put in such perspective, the dynamics of the Syrian uprising are radically different than elsewhere. To the surprise of the Syrian authorities, cities where relatively significant demonstrations were held were not mainly Sunni strongholds or regions known for their historical abhorrence of the Assad regime. These demonstrations happened in multi-religious areas like the province of Deraa, considered to be the reservoir of high-ranking Baath military and state officials, such as the vice-president Farouk al Sharaa. This shows that the uprising seems to be fed by pockets of protesters rather than by a large popular movement. While in Tunisia, the largest popular protest gathered nearly 10 percent of the population, the largest combined protests in Syria have amounted to barely one percent of the population. Indeed, the so-called opposition essentially failed to mobilize the Syrian population.

    This might be due to the fact that the Syrian people have not yet forgotten the Hama massacre and that they have not yet managed to break the barrier of fear. But that is harder to understand since, if there was a good time to break the barriers of fear, it would be now -- with the domino effect sweeping across the Arab world, and with a Syrian regime already partly ostracized by the international community and struggling to restore good international relations. And when freedom is so badly sought as we have witnessed in Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen, oppression does not stop the crowd. Various "Khaled Said" phenomena are only supposed to fuel large-scale public anger rather than hush its voice.

  9. Blissful and AKF,

    When you have a fatwa from a mujtahid, you will need to come up with an argument better than that.


    Q:What is the ruling on eating sweets and foods that contain cow gelatin from non Muslim countries? If the answer is that it is permissible to eat them after the Istihalah process has taken place , then , what is meant by Istihalah? 7/9/2007 11:25:39 AM

    A: Istihalah means the transformation of a thing in its basic elements into other elements, such as the transformation of bones into dust or wood and the turning of water into vapor. The experts have determined that the Istihalah occurs when we produce the cow gelatin and thus it has become tahir regardless of its source.

    Also note that vinegar comes from alcohol, is vinegar haram? a proper understanding of "Isthalah" should first be had before one takes it upon him- or herself to issue fatwas.

  10. here's a decent analysis on saudi in the context of the current uprisings.


    Diffferent article than above link is what follows:

    Iran says it "cannot stay indifferent" on Bahrain

    Iran has called on the UN Security Council to protect opposition activists in Bahrain, where, it said, unrest and suppression could destabilise the entire region, the official IRNA news agency said on Friday.

    Tehran has been outspoken in its criticism of the Bahraini ruling family's violent suppression of pro-reform protests. Bahrain's Gulf Arab allies, some of which intervened militarily and sent troops to the island state to bolster government forces, have accused the Islamic Republic of interference.

    In a letter to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi called for "a serious and immediate action by the Security Council over suppressing people's demands in Bahrain using military force".

    "The Islamic Republic of Iran cannot stay indifferent towards events in Bahrain and their consequences, because the situation could be uncontrollable if the current situation goes on," Salehi wrote.

    "Such consequences would destabilise the Persian Gulf region and of course its aftermath would affect the world."

    Bahrain has launched a security crackdown after its police forces quelled weeks of pro-democracy protests which it accuses Iran of fomenting. The opposition says hundreds have been arrested and four have died in police custody over the last two weeks.

    The Bahrain crisis has accentuated tensions between non-Arab Iran and its Arab neighbours across the Gulf, particularly Saudi Arabia which provides 12 percent of U.S. crude imports and is seen by Washington as a counterweight to the Islamic Republic.

    Salehi complained to the United Nations last month after Saudi troops entered Bahrain as part of an effort by the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council to help quell the protests, saying Riyadh was using the protests as a "pretext for intervention".

    At Friday prayers in Tehran, hardline cleric Ahmad Jannati backed Salehi's comments and warned Saudi Arabia against provoking Iran.

    "Hatred towards Saudi Arabia is spreading," Jannati told worshippers. "People really hate these Wahhabis," he added, a reference to the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia.

    Gulf Arab countries are concerned over what they see as the ambition of Iran, a Shi'ite power, to extend its influence in Arab countries mostly under Sunni rule.

    Kuwait said this week it had expelled three Iranian diplomats for involvement in a spy ring, and in a tit-for-tat move Tehran gave three Kuwaiti diplomats 10 days to leave Iran.

    Last month, a Kuwaiti court sentenced two Iranians and a Kuwaiti to death for being part of the alleged spy ring. Iran denies the accusations of spying or interfering in other countries' affairs.


  11. As it stands today , Saudi Arabia and the Bahraini monarchy will attempt to crush any signs of resistance. This will be limited in (time) and the entire middle east will be engulfed by serious unrest very soon. It will make these current revolutions appear small. Many may not understand what that means, but I guarantee you this Middle East region has yet to see real unrest. A war will follow between the arab states and Iran.

    I agree. I think we may not have seen anything yet. It may be time for the spineless saudis to be planning their escape route.

  12. Quote from this blog entry about foreign meddling in Syria's current unrest:

    I finally got through to Haytham Manna in Paris. He confirmed the story of Al Watan, adding a few details: he spoke about three groups having contacted him to provide money and weapons to the rebels in Syria. First, a Syrian businessman (the story reported by Al Jazeera); secondly, he was contacted by "several pro-American Syrian opposers" to put it in his words. (he referred to more than one individual); thirdly, he mentioned approaches of the same kind by "Syrians in Lebanon who are loyal to a Lebanese party which is against Syria". Well, he probably means Hariri. But that is MY OWN ASSUMPTION, as he flatly refused to name names, for he said he does not want to get into "les contrastes libano-libanaises". But when I pronounced that name asking him to fully express his thought, he did not contradict me. He did also refer to other nationalities "meddling" in the Syrian rebellion. He stated that the "Intifadat Karama", the Intifada of Dignity, is a "purely Syrian affair" and that no one, "neither Jordanians, nor Lebanese, nor Saudis" should interfere. "It is a matter that Syrians must resolve among themselves".
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