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Apologies, praise was the incorrect term to use. Correction: "I simply used my disagreement with the maraji', whom verbally wish for Allah(swt) to be pleased with the enemies of Ahlulbayt(as), as an example".

And as I have been trying to tell Danish, I do not disagree with the requirement of having to pay khums. What I disagree with is the apparent obligation for me to pay it to the maraji'.

^ Sayed Fadhlullah, Sayed Sadr and Sayed Sistani to name a few. Just so you know, I consider saying (ra) after their names as a praise - which is technically the incorrect term to use.

Unfortunately, many men do not think of it as an insult. It's as if it's perfectly normal to go around and claim that women are mentally less superior because they're "emotionally" superior - and even then, we're portrayed as only having an abundance of what are generally considered weak emotions, whereas men of course have "stronger" emotions.

I didn't say you were both man and woman, I said you cannot make the claims you made unless you were both man and woman. Suggesting you were both man and woman would actually defeat my argument. Lol, ok.

@Aftahb, I just had a look at the link you provided and they appear to all be questions answered by Syed Sistini and not my marji'. The book containing the rulings from Sheikh Khorasani does not appear to have any say on how I decide to deal with khums (unless I completely missed it because there are several pages on what things you pay khums for).

I'm not sure if you're purposefully trying to be insulting or if it's just difficult for you to articulate what you mean. I'm going to assume it's the latter. Regardless, the way you repeatedly keep mentioning womens "greater emotions" is demeaning. For example when you say "I don't think it appropriate to discuss with you because you seem much emotionally driven girlbecause emotions brings haste and haste brings destruction" you are suggesting that I, a person you have never met before or spoken to, am an emotionally driven girl. I take this to mean that you assume all girls are inherently em

So as to stop hijacking the previous thread on which marji' you follow, I've started this one. The following arguments were made: Not sure what part of my post lead you to believe otherwise but I agree. I meant that I could still follow a marji' for his islamic ruling and not like him as a person or not like his aqeedah. i.e. I personally do not agree with certain behaviours of some maraji' that choose to say (ra) after the names of the enemies of Ahlulbayt but I will not stop following a marji' simply because of this, because idealistically, his personal prefe

@Aftahb and @Danish14, I have started a new thread where I will inshAllah reply to you both.

No, you're absolutely right. I'm currently supposed to be studying for an exam (but clearly procrastinating instead :P) but inshAllah when I'm free I'll start a separate thread. In which case, if someone else would like to reply to what I've said please feel free to start the separate thread (can you quote someone from this thread to a different one?). Or, if any mods have some spare time and can transfer the comments related to the discussion I've started into a new thread, please do so!

Nah, don't need to go through their minds to disagree with them for doing it - regardless of their reasons. I am allowed to disagree with someone aren't I, or is freedom of speech/thought only a myth? Lulz, this is why I don't debate with men with superiority complexes that only ever resort to the "women are emotionally driven" excuse when they have nothing consequential to add to a discussion (wonder if you would've brought up my gender if it wasn't listed on my profile). Stereotypes can be also be applied to men but hey what would I know, I'm just an emotionally driven girl and can'

Not sure what part of my post lead you to believe otherwise but I agree. I meant that I could still follow a marji' for his islamic ruling and not like him as a person or not like his aqeedah. i.e. I personally do not agree with certain behaviours of some maraji' that choose to say (ra) after the names of the enemies of Ahlulbayt but I will not stop following a marji' simply because of this, because idealistically, his personal preference to speak kindly of the la'eens should not affect his ability to inform us of certain islamic rulings based on his research of ahadith. I hope this clears up

At the end of the book, gives a shady narration of the events that lead up to the murder - practically admits to doing it.

^ True, I did not mean to imply they couldn't.

^ No one's exchanging blows. It's just a widespread issue that really needs to be addressed. People are starting to treat maraji' as infallible beings that cannot be spoken of or even mentioned without a whole ten-word praise before their name. It'd be nice to see someone actually saying: "Al-Imam Al-Atham Al-muqadas Al... Ali (may Allah shower his rooh with blessings)" as opposed to "Al-etc. some-random-marji'". Perhaps a new thread will keep the blows elsewhere; but as laziness prevails, I'll get to that later. Also, I'm pretty sure all topics lead to some form of drama on ShiaChat.