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  1. point number one the word is not "Ab" but "li-abeehi" this word is used 9 times in the Quran eight times referring to Abraham's Father one time referring to the the father of Joseph in [012:004] Behold! Joseph said to his father: "O my father! I did see eleven stars and the sun and the moon: I saw them prostrate themselves to me!" this verse is clearly referring to the Jacob the father of Joseph there are no two opinions on that point number two "li-abeehi" used as father when referring to Abraham's father is not used in 2:133 so you openly lied that the same word is used in 2:133 when it is not :squeez: [002:133] Were ye witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship Thy God and the God of thy fathers, of Abraham, Isma'il and Isaac,- the one (True) God: To Him we bow (in Islam)." the only time the word Walidun is used in the Quran specifically to a biological father is in the the verse 31:033 and by the Grace of Allah this same verse refutes your concept that Prophets have to be born in a pure family [031:033] “Oh you people! Fear your Lord and dread that day when a father would not make amends for (the sins of) the son, and the son would not atone for (the sins of) his father. Allah’s promise is indeed absolutely true! Do not let the life of this world dazzle you! Do not let that great deceiver (Shaitan) mislead you about Allah!” this verse clearly stats that the son will not bear the sins of his father, in other word the son is free from his impure father, thats why if a child dies young he goes directly to heaven because he is pure from any sin ok this a very stupid argument why did the Prophet allowed Hazrat Bilal to call for prayers instead of himself? because Hazrat Bilal voice was pleasing to the ears Prophet Muhammad never taught us how do be a carpenter, or how to drive my car Prophet Muhammad a good example of a muslim that doesn't mean a good muslim should eat honey because the Prophet like honey or good muslim should not drive cars because the Prophet never drove a car or red should be my favorite color because it is the favorite color of the Prophet what is really unfortunate is that you totally ignored the point of the whole hadith grafting the trees has nothing to do with Islam grafting the trees neither effects a muslim believe grafting the trees has nothing to with good or bad deeds you didn't reply to what I said that totally exposes you and where are you getting all this information forum, cuz its clear you never really investigates anything by yourself
  2. lets take the whole story in context and stop being dishonest :angel: Mahdi will ask Prophet Isa to lead the prayers first now does that mean Mahdi believes Isa has a higher status then him?Probably But Prophet Isa will refuse, not because he is inferior, but the general idea is that he did not came back to bring a new religion, he is not a Prophet in his second coming, he will follow Islam the relgion of Prophet Muhammad during his life time Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) prayed behind other fellow muslims, so the idea of leading the prayer makes you superior can easily be refuted Quran is the final revelation(wahy) just search on google "Quran the final revelation" you will find many articles on why Quran is the final revelation no one will receive Wahy after the death of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)
  3. a very bad translation indeed first of all the last part of the verse is a very general statement its not "and the one who has knowledge of the Book" it is "or anybody with the knowledge of the book" to say this verse refers specifically to Ali is ludicrous
  4. taqqiyah is full action :Hijabi: Nice very sneaky I swear to Allah I am not what you claim I know shia love to do Taqqiyah but thats just not my thing No the Quran and Sunnah are not the same thing they could not contradict each other, but they are not the same thing Prophet could reply to the questions asked by either his companions Companions and the relatives narrated Prophet his reactions to different types of situations Quran is the book of theology and Sunnah explains us how to follow the Quran I don't why you are immaturely pointing fingers at Umar(RA) on the issue of Adaan when Shia added the name of Ali(RA) in their Adhan atleast Umar didn't add his name or titles in the Adhan bida'h in ramadan the only thing he did was to ask people to instead of praying in groups, pray under one Qari in the Masjid its not as if he made fasting optional and come on look at your own religion you added a whole month of Muharam as some sort of a religious month you guys do matham isn't that bid'ah about the hadiths, were written down in 100 to 150 years after the Prophet they were there in oral form, transmitted from one man to another actually Al-Muwatta was the earliest written book of hadith collections compiled around 93 AH - 179 AH of course Quran and Hadiths cannot be compared, because Allah promised Quran to be preserved till the day of judgment, but hadiths are something where you have to do investigation to make sure if they are authentic but they still wont be considered equal to the Quran from Bukhari Narrated Al-Hasan Al-Basri: By Allah, Al-Hasan bin ali led large battalions like mountains against muawiya. Amr bin Al-As said (to muawiya), "I surely see battalions which will not turn back before killing their opponents." muawiya who was really the best of the two men said to him, "O 'Amr! If these killed those and those killed these, who would be left with me for the jobs of the public, who would be left with me for their women, who would be left with me for their children?" Then muawiya sent two Quraishi men from the tribe of 'Abd-i-Shams called 'Abdur Rahman bin Sumura and Abdullah bin 'Amir bin Kuraiz to Al-Hasan saying to them, "Go to this man (i.e. Al-Hasan) and negotiate peace with him and talk and appeal to him." So, they went to Al-Hasan and talked and appealed to him to accept peace. Al-Hasan said, "We, the offspring of 'Abdul Muttalib, have got wealth and people have indulged in killing and corruption (and money only will appease them)." They said to Al-Hasan, "muawiya offers you so and so, and appeals to you and entreats you to accept peace." Al-Hasan said to them, "But who will be responsible for what you have said?" They said, "We will be responsible for it." So, what-ever Al-Hasan asked they said, "We will be responsible for it for you." So, Al-Hasan concluded a peace treaty with muawiya. Al-Hasan (Al-Basri) said: I heard Abu Bakr saying, "I saw Allah's Apostle on the pulpit and Al-Hasan bin 'ali was by his side. The Prophet was looking once at the people and once at Al-Hasan bin 'ali saying, 'This son of mine is a Saiyid (i.e. a noble) and may Allah make peace between two big groups of Muslims through him." (Book #49, Hadith #867) Narrated Ikrima bin Khalid: Ibn 'Umar said, "I went to Hafsa while water was dribbling from her twined braids. I said, 'The condition of the people is as you see, and no authority has been given to me.' Hafsa said, (to me), 'Go to them, and as they (i.e. the people) are waiting for you, and I am afraid your absence from them will produce division amongst them.' " So Hafsa did not leave Ibn 'Umar till we went to them. When the people differed. muawiya addressed the people saying, "'If anybody wants to say anything in this matter of the Caliphate, he should show up and not conceal himself, for we are more rightful to be a Caliph than he and his father." On that, Habib bin Masalama said (to Ibn 'Umar), "Why don't you reply to him (i.e. muawiya)?" 'Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "I untied my garment that was going round my back and legs while I was sitting and was about to say, 'He who fought against you and against your father for the sake of Islam, is more rightful to be a Caliph,' but I was afraid that my statement might produce differences amongst the people and cause bloodshed, and my statement might be interpreted not as I intended. (So I kept quiet) remembering what Allah has prepared in the Gardens of Paradise (for those who are patient and prefer the Hereafter to this worldly life)." Habib said, "You did what kept you safe and secure (i.e. you were wise in doing so)." (Book #59, Hadith #434) From Muslim This hadith has been narrated. on the authority of Shu'ba with the same chain of transmitters. Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that muawiya b. Abi Sufyin appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said: What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camelg. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) say about 'ali as he left behind hrin in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'All said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We have been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed:" Let us summon our children and your children." Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) called 'ali, Fitima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family. (Book #031, Hadith #5915) muawiya a did a pretty bad job when comes to forging hadiths and if muawiya is the one who started this concept, then isn't it kind a weird that Shia adapted this method isn't Al-kafi a book of hadiths? Salam
  5. I really thought you were the only who has some sense, but after this post boy you proved me wrong seriously WTF Israr Ahmed son was short!!!!1 when did that happen? where is your source One question Hussain(RA) death was very horrific does that mean he was cursed by Allah use your bloody sense before coming up with these utter ridiculous thoughts
  6. the dancing monkey finally snapped :!!!: I was expecting this from you you made a really stupid claim that the Quran doesn't give names it only explains personalities well I proved you wrong, it also shows you barely read the Quran, cuz I don't expect anyone who is familiar with the Quran to make this retard claim as you did about me worshiping the Companions for the record I don't consider Companions to be infallible I don't consider Companions to be greater then the Prophet I don't believe Abu Bakr(RA) taught the angels I don't believe Caliphs were appointed by Allah just like the angels I do believe they are mortals, they made mistakes I don't believe they were present somewhere in the cosmos before the earth was made I don't believe the earth was made for them I don't believe they were appointed by Allah, as the Prophets were so who is worshiping their leaders and who is not stands clear so keep committing shriek and keep acting like a hypocrite this your counter argument? its full of [Edited Out] thats what I have to say so please come up with constructive argument this is what you said you piece of [Edited Out] those who doubt His Might will burn in hell fire another ridiculous claim full of [Edited Out] come up with constructive argument same goes to Suyuti and Tabari and many other sunni hadiths books many Shia an example is Aabiss_Shakari in this thread he is quoting Imam Suyuti, who himself never authenticated his tafsir collections Suyuti compiled as many narrations as he can for each verse without even giving his opinion or authenticating them in Al-Mizan tabaeti barely gives references same goes with Puya but what I found amusing in your reply is that even hadiths need interpretations lolzzzzzzz and who is interpreting them? you fallible Shia scholars obey your fallible leaders and stay blind sums up 'sed_a_L_i
  7. oh give me break Prophet Abraham's father was a pagan [006:074] Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: "Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error." thats not true, Prophet was an example of a muslim whats wrong with being an illiterate? are they inferior to others? [007:157] who shall follow the Apostle, theilliterate prophet, whom they shall find written down with them in the law and the gospel: He will command them that which is just, and will forbid them what which is evil; and will allow unto them as lawful the good things which were before forbidden, and will prohibit those which are bad; and he will ease them of their heavy burden, and of the yokes which were upon them. And those who believe on him, and honour him, and assist him, and follow the light, which hath been sent down with him, shall be happy. mentioned in the Bible Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. [007:143] When Musa arrived at Our chosen place at the appointed hour, his Lord spoke to him. Musa said, “My Lord, let me see you. I want to look at you.” (Allah) said, “You will not be able to see Me. Watch that mountain! If it can withstand (My apparition) and stay firm in its place, then perhaps you can see Me. When the Lord revealed Himself to the mountain, it collapsed and crumbled into fine dust, and Musa was knocked down unconscious. He said, when he recovered, “Exalted are You! I turn to You in repentance and I am the first to believe!” [007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks." Prophet Musa asking for repentance, now why will he ask for repentance if they are infallible plus who the hell are you to give us this criteria of a Prophet Allah can choose whoever He wants, either a sinner or a mortal it easy for Allah Prophets were mortals just like you and me as the Quran says [026:154] "Thou art no more than a mortal like us: then bring us a Sign, if thou tellest the truth!" [026:186] "Thou art no more than a mortal like us, and indeed we think thou art a liar! [064:006] That was because their Messengers came to them with manifest Signs, but they said, `Shall mere mortals guide us ?' So they disbelieved and turned away, but Allah had no need of them; And Allah is Self-Sufficient, Worthy of all praise. do you want to be with unbelievers, just like you they couldn't believe a mortal, someone like them to be a Prophet of Allah Allah says [017:093] `Or, thou have a house of gold or thou ascend up into heaven; and we will not believe in thy ascension until thou send down to us a Book that we can read.' Say, `Holy is my Lord ! I am but a mortal sent as a Messenger.'
  8. does it really matter who buried the Prophet(PBUH)? somehow trying to prove imamah? its common sense that the Family of Prophet will be involved in the burial, because after all they are family that doesn't make her an ignorant person just because she doesn't agree with your sources :angel:
  9. nothing to do with literalism if you can't take the challenge then kindly leave the dialog are you sure? when is the last time you read the Quran [003:144] And Muhammad is but a messenger. Verily all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he dies or is slain, will you turn back on your heels ? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful. [047:002] But as for those who believe and do righteous deeds and believe in that which has been revealed to Muhammad - and it is the truth from their Lord - HE removes from them their sins and sets right their affairs. [*]Nawasib can change the names of personalities but concepts can't be changed, because Quran is already been interpreted by the holy Prophet (S). [048:029] Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are hard against the disbelievers but tender among themselves. Thou seest them bowing and prostrating themselves in Prayer, seeking Allah's grace and pleasure. Their marks are upon their faces, being the traces of prostrations. This is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is like unto a seed-produce that sends forth its sprout, then makes it strong; it then becomes stout, and stands firm on its stem, delighting the sowers - That HE may cause the disbelievers to boil with rage at the sight of them. Allah has promised, unto those of them, who believe and do good works, forgiveness and a great reward. [002:087] It was We Who gave Musa the Book (the Torah). Then, after him, We sent down many messengers, one after the other. It was We Who gave Jesus, son of Mary, several undeniable proofs; and it was We Who supported him with the exalted Angels. You behaved arrogantly whenever the messengers brought something your hearts disapproved. You called some of them liars, and even killed a few. [004:163] We sent the revelation to you, just like We inspired Nooh, and the other prophets after him; (just like) We inspired Ibraheem Ismail, Ishaque, Yaqub and the tribes, Jesus, Ayub, Yunus, Haroon and Sulaiman. We gave Da�ood the book of �Zaboor� (the Psalms). not only the Quran describe personalities it also gives their names this is a weak hadith the correct version is I am going to leave with you two heavy burdens. The first of them is the Book of Allah: in it is the true guidance and the light. Therefore, hold fast to it.� Then he (the Prophet) prompted and induced the Muslims to adhere to the Book of God. Then he said: �And my household. I remind you of Allah in matters relating to my household. I remind you of Allah in matters relating to my household. I remind you of Allah in matters relating to my household. about the Quran Prophet said The first of them is the Book of Allah: in it is the true guidance and the light. Therefore, hold fast to it. about the family the Prophet said take care of my family This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Hayyan but with this addition:" The Book of Allah contains right guidance, the light, and whoever adheres to it and holds it fast, he is upon right guidance and whosoever deviates from it goes astray. Sahih Muslim Nauzubillah seriously dude now you have really pissed my off are you questioning Allah's Might and Power are saying is "Hard" for Allah to guide me shame on you Allah will never Guide those who doubt His Authority thats why Shia consider Kitab al-Kafi there most authentic hadith collection book to have full of daif hadiths thats why you have Tafsir al-Mizan Tafsir by Mahdi Puya Tafsir by Shaykh Tusi Yes all of them were infallible authors :!!!: first of all we don't claim our Sahabas were not superior to Ali so your challenge shows your ignorance of the Sunni faith
  10. do you know that error and sin are two different things :!!!:
  11. what claim lolzzz I didn't claim Muhajireen are closer to the Prophet this is what I said edited if your 12 imams are all from Quryesh then how the hell can you take the side of the Ansars, did your theology gave them leadership NO its like a man is accusing the other men of being a drunkard, when he himself got drunk last night [Note from Mod: Name-calling and insulting members is against the rules]
  12. where does the verse say engage a battle against the hypocrites if you mean "strive hard" means war or battle then you are way off because striving does not mean fighting at all
  13. Drinking was made haram in stages, it was not immediately declared haram by the Prophet I think it was either the Battle of Badr or Battle of Uhud, that muslims were drinking a day before one of these battles so to say somehow this hadith is to show disrespect of Hamza(RA) is not true, because muslims were at time were allowed to drink please first do some research on the islamic history before coming up these ridiculous arguments
  14. Sunni mothers dont give a [Edited Out] a about a sect which represents less then 10 percent of Muslims many Sunni Scholars are neutral on this issue so this statement is completely bogus first of all we don't have the same ideology when it comes to Imamah to us descendants of Ali are scholars but they don't hold a special status like they do in Shiaism imam Jafar was the teacher of Abu Hanifa and Malik ibn Anas so to say some how they were neglected by the main stream Islam is ridiculous I can't believe you asked us this stupid question I don't think you know what really hadiths are hadiths are sayings of the Prophet these imams were not even born at the time of the Prophet they might be in chains but they can not be the narrators thats impossible its clear you have no idea what Sunnism is
  15. OMG seriously you really think I will believe in these forged letters by Shia full of bull$#$& you have nothing in your mind but hate and hate turns you blind Umar(RA) when conquered Jerusalem build the Mosque Al-Aqsa this is an historical fact accepted by historian and scholars alike not only muslims but non muslims Why will Allah give Umar this honor of building a Mosque on the holiest of holiest just like you took your interpretation from Abdullah Ibn Saba Right :!!!:
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