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  1. ^ Me too? Speech Created = Yes or No :wacko:
  2. The Glorious Qur’an: 13 - ٚÇ ãñÔ æáÇ Çááå ÑؼÈ ٝñ Ýٟ Ç ÙñøÈÏÝ ìöÒٛÉ, ٚÝٟ Ç ãñ ٛòÉ ÐöÝٛÝ ٚػ ٝò Çáà Ûñ ãöÔٚÁ, ٚػ ٝò Ç Ìñٕٟ ػ ١ò Ç ÙñáÇÍ ٚÇ ÛñáÇ Ööٕøí, ٚ ÝñÙ Èٕ ËÈ ãñÔ Îö ٛòÞ ٚæÒÈËÒ Èٕ Îö ٛòáÎ ٚáÔÇÆÒ Èٕ Îö ٛòáÎ ٚÇ ãñÔÂ Û ١Ô Îö ٛòÞ. 13. The Qur'an is the Kalam of Allah Ta‟ala, written on books (masahif), preserved in the hearts, recited on the tongues, and revealed to the Prophet, sallallahu alahi wa aalihi wa sallam. Our utterance of the Qur'an is created, and our recitation of the Qur'an is created, but the Qur'an (as the attribute of Kalam of Allah) is not created. So Abu Hanifa believed the Quran as Speech of Allah was Not Created
  3. Okay well all you guys are giving mixed info Abu'l Fadl another Sunni says Abdaal takes the Mu'tazilah positions regarding Kalâm. ;)
  4. Brother Abdaal who is a sunni disagrees to what u say is the sunni belief?
  5. ^ LOL.. sorry thats sad. mum jokes on shiachat
  6. Do the Maturdi's also believe the Quran was created?
  7. Thank you but i have already read those articles. It doesnt really address my question
  8. oh i thought all Sunnis believed that the Quran was not created. Thanks brother
  9. that they believe Allah does not have power over all things? Or are their beliefs about this issue the same as ours where we say Allah has knowledge of All but gives us free will, there are things we dont have control over such as sex, race etc but others we do. Please provide reference. Thank you
  10. So i do understand Sunni's Believe the Quran is not created. It is an atribute of God - Speech of God and therefor the Quran is the Speech of God which was sent to the Prophet (pbuh) through Gabriel (as). Now is there any articles / books from the Shia point of view how it was created and not the Speech of Allah? I would also like the same from the Sunni's here, if you could show me any online books / articles that i could read. Thank You!
  11. I dont think there are any such books written by shias.
  12. Thank you brother Macisaac, Aabis, Slave of Allah!
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