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    Noah- got a reaction from iCenozoic in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Why  is it a big deal for some ppl here? Iraq buys electricity, so what?
    Electricity is not that huge where it will turn Iraqis into little slaves of Saudis.. today, they buy it, tomorrow they might stop and turn somewhere else.
    And I don't understand why on everything Iran is brought up and compared, especially by the OP? Iran does business with Europe so we do with Saudis. You are not living by Iranian standards.. Iraq is an independent country and if it makes mistakes, it is the problem for Iraq. By the time someone is questioning Iraq's wrong move, for example in this case, then there must be  too many  Iranian-related reasons.... The problem some ppl might see here is that  Saudis did support evils like Saddam, and after that actively participated and provoked Sunni-Arabs in the civil war, then they (Gulf states/Turkey) started the ISIS drama and massacred thousands of Iraqis in the process.... but after all if Iraq needs electricity and buys it from Saudis, I don't see a big problem...
    But stop making fitnah on everything and compare Iran on all levels with every single issue... Why there always be a bad guy (Iran) in your stories?  Iran did not adopt Iraq to be either responsible for all its problems/expenses or else, Iran is a bad father and Iraq is now turning to its enemies!  Iraq as a whole should decide and take responsibility for its foreign and domestic problems... If Iraqis (now) think that Saudis and all other little monafiq-puppet Gulf states are good business partners after all they did to Iraq, then be it, good for you!
    Tomorrow empower  Abubakar al-Baghdadi and Saddam's daughters and make them the prime minister and president of Iraq, if you think it is good for Iraqis without any logical explanation.. .. and  if you think that is the better option in confronting Iranian influence! That is right you might anger Iran by doing so, but you forget all about your own dark past with these ppl  and how you were abused and massacred by such individuals/groups...
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    Noah- got a reaction from Gaius I. Caesar in Where is Jamal Khashoggi???   
    No. He was a 'green card' holder (permanent resident).
    But, he was a contributor for Washington Post since he moved to the US and was living in DC I believe for the last few years! Some of his works were done in criticizing Bin Salman's policies and published by WP!
    Anyhow, US is getting involved because of the expectations from ppl and governments across the globe... the so called champion of HumanRights and a country who bow-down to Oil and dollar when it comes to its Arab and Wahabi allies... but then goes and imposes sanctions on countries for lack of human rights and harsh political system... when things like this surface that is totally uncontrollable and cannot be lied about, so they find a way for these hypocrites to still say something but to cool down things and cover up for their allies such as terror-sponsor Gulf allies, Alqaida and extremist groups in Syria, Kings and monarchs, coup leaders and military generals who place the entire nations under their heavy military boots!
    Trump and close friends already announced that they have very good and solid relations with Saudi Arabia, they need it against "terrorists" (?) and that business is done as usual because too much money is involved to care for a journalist, expose terrorist activities, or question a tyrant's behaviors against his nation...
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    Noah- reacted to Carlzone in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Yes, but in order to have this we need to get rid of the corruption that infiltrates Iraq. Most people with power in Iraq are busy stealing the nation's money instead of having self respect and fear of God and rebuilding the nation. That's our problem in a nutshell. 
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    Noah- reacted to Ralvi in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Rather than angry at this, see it as a positive, for Iraq success and empowerment. Shias have to face the enemy head on. But we must do it that will make our imam happy. We must smart, so I don’t see a problem, Iraq has citizens to look after and this was a solution(might not be the greatest) but it’s something 
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    Noah- reacted to Haji 2003 in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    The Iranian arms purchases did not alter Iran's attitude towards the Israel/Pal issue. The Iranians kept to their principles. If the Iraqis keep to theirs, then the analogy is ok.
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    Noah- reacted to Laayla in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Bismehe Ta3ala,
    Assalam Alikum @Noah-
    Thank you for the clarification brother.  You are right what we do on in individual level cannot be applied to the country.  At most we only have power to our families.
    At times when the government electricity goes off, we have the generator.  When the generator doesn't work we are on candle light.
    Also, I appreciate your patience and explaining the topic without a condescending tone. 
    God bless you.
    M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah
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    Noah- got a reaction from hasanhh in Where is Jamal Khashoggi???   
    No. He was a 'green card' holder (permanent resident).
    But, he was a contributor for Washington Post since he moved to the US and was living in DC I believe for the last few years! Some of his works were done in criticizing Bin Salman's policies and published by WP!
    Anyhow, US is getting involved because of the expectations from ppl and governments across the globe... the so called champion of HumanRights and a country who bow-down to Oil and dollar when it comes to its Arab and Wahabi allies... but then goes and imposes sanctions on countries for lack of human rights and harsh political system... when things like this surface that is totally uncontrollable and cannot be lied about, so they find a way for these hypocrites to still say something but to cool down things and cover up for their allies such as terror-sponsor Gulf allies, Alqaida and extremist groups in Syria, Kings and monarchs, coup leaders and military generals who place the entire nations under their heavy military boots!
    Trump and close friends already announced that they have very good and solid relations with Saudi Arabia, they need it against "terrorists" (?) and that business is done as usual because too much money is involved to care for a journalist, expose terrorist activities, or question a tyrant's behaviors against his nation...
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    Noah- got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Ws sis,
    That is true and that is how it should be... You feel like that, I feel and believe that way, and many more ordinary ppl who are not part of governments or holding a state position do as well!
    But, in the 'real' world that is NOT how it is being done and not working that way.. state/government institutions often look for bigger gains and calculate their gain/loss on the basis of their interests... for example during Iran-Iraq war 'Iran' under the leadership of Imam Khomeini bought their weapons and other needs for urgent needs, nobody cared if the providers were baby-killers, "dhalemeen" or tyrants. Iraq being in urgent need of electricity might turn to any neighbor who could provide for lesser cost.
    BTW: many Muslims, including Shia Muslims, including our families are going to Hajj and Umrah knowing that the money they spent, a lot of them are contributing to the economy of Saudi Arabi.. a country who aided and sent terrorist organizations for decades to kill Muslims and sabotage their security from Afg to Pak, from Eastern China to Lebanon and elsewhere, aside from the war in Yemen... My point is that there are things and there are times that an individual, a state, a government, they all have to deal with tyrants for different reasons even if it helps the tyrants indirectly!
     
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    Noah- got a reaction from Haji 2003 in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Ws sis,
    That is true and that is how it should be... You feel like that, I feel and believe that way, and many more ordinary ppl who are not part of governments or holding a state position do as well!
    But, in the 'real' world that is NOT how it is being done and not working that way.. state/government institutions often look for bigger gains and calculate their gain/loss on the basis of their interests... for example during Iran-Iraq war 'Iran' under the leadership of Imam Khomeini bought their weapons and other needs for urgent needs, nobody cared if the providers were baby-killers, "dhalemeen" or tyrants. Iraq being in urgent need of electricity might turn to any neighbor who could provide for lesser cost.
    BTW: many Muslims, including Shia Muslims, including our families are going to Hajj and Umrah knowing that the money they spent, a lot of them are contributing to the economy of Saudi Arabi.. a country who aided and sent terrorist organizations for decades to kill Muslims and sabotage their security from Afg to Pak, from Eastern China to Lebanon and elsewhere, aside from the war in Yemen... My point is that there are things and there are times that an individual, a state, a government, they all have to deal with tyrants for different reasons even if it helps the tyrants indirectly!
     
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    Noah- got a reaction from Carlzone in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Ws sis,
    That is true and that is how it should be... You feel like that, I feel and believe that way, and many more ordinary ppl who are not part of governments or holding a state position do as well!
    But, in the 'real' world that is NOT how it is being done and not working that way.. state/government institutions often look for bigger gains and calculate their gain/loss on the basis of their interests... for example during Iran-Iraq war 'Iran' under the leadership of Imam Khomeini bought their weapons and other needs for urgent needs, nobody cared if the providers were baby-killers, "dhalemeen" or tyrants. Iraq being in urgent need of electricity might turn to any neighbor who could provide for lesser cost.
    BTW: many Muslims, including Shia Muslims, including our families are going to Hajj and Umrah knowing that the money they spent, a lot of them are contributing to the economy of Saudi Arabi.. a country who aided and sent terrorist organizations for decades to kill Muslims and sabotage their security from Afg to Pak, from Eastern China to Lebanon and elsewhere, aside from the war in Yemen... My point is that there are things and there are times that an individual, a state, a government, they all have to deal with tyrants for different reasons even if it helps the tyrants indirectly!
     
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    Noah- got a reaction from 2Timeless in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Why  is it a big deal for some ppl here? Iraq buys electricity, so what?
    Electricity is not that huge where it will turn Iraqis into little slaves of Saudis.. today, they buy it, tomorrow they might stop and turn somewhere else.
    And I don't understand why on everything Iran is brought up and compared, especially by the OP? Iran does business with Europe so we do with Saudis. You are not living by Iranian standards.. Iraq is an independent country and if it makes mistakes, it is the problem for Iraq. By the time someone is questioning Iraq's wrong move, for example in this case, then there must be  too many  Iranian-related reasons.... The problem some ppl might see here is that  Saudis did support evils like Saddam, and after that actively participated and provoked Sunni-Arabs in the civil war, then they (Gulf states/Turkey) started the ISIS drama and massacred thousands of Iraqis in the process.... but after all if Iraq needs electricity and buys it from Saudis, I don't see a big problem...
    But stop making fitnah on everything and compare Iran on all levels with every single issue... Why there always be a bad guy (Iran) in your stories?  Iran did not adopt Iraq to be either responsible for all its problems/expenses or else, Iran is a bad father and Iraq is now turning to its enemies!  Iraq as a whole should decide and take responsibility for its foreign and domestic problems... If Iraqis (now) think that Saudis and all other little monafiq-puppet Gulf states are good business partners after all they did to Iraq, then be it, good for you!
    Tomorrow empower  Abubakar al-Baghdadi and Saddam's daughters and make them the prime minister and president of Iraq, if you think it is good for Iraqis without any logical explanation.. .. and  if you think that is the better option in confronting Iranian influence! That is right you might anger Iran by doing so, but you forget all about your own dark past with these ppl  and how you were abused and massacred by such individuals/groups...
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    Noah- got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Ws sis,
    I don't understand what is the connection between buying electricity and 40 kids killed in Yemen? Kids are killed every day and countries are destroyed by Arab tyrants, European nations, Americas, and other countries... but still business is done between states, unless they are at war!
    You feel sorry for Yemeni kids, lets pray instead of cancelling business deals, some Shia leaders, countries, groups send some aids to Yemeni children.. money, food, medicine and etc.. protesting and chanting or burning flags all day, won't help any kid in Yemen!
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    Noah- got a reaction from Zulfiqar1472 in Pakistan election - July 25   
    I hope Imran distances Pakistan from Saudis and restrict the Takfiri ideology and Saudi puppets in the country! 
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    Noah- got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Iraq turns to Saudi Arabia for electricity   
    Why  is it a big deal for some ppl here? Iraq buys electricity, so what?
    Electricity is not that huge where it will turn Iraqis into little slaves of Saudis.. today, they buy it, tomorrow they might stop and turn somewhere else.
    And I don't understand why on everything Iran is brought up and compared, especially by the OP? Iran does business with Europe so we do with Saudis. You are not living by Iranian standards.. Iraq is an independent country and if it makes mistakes, it is the problem for Iraq. By the time someone is questioning Iraq's wrong move, for example in this case, then there must be  too many  Iranian-related reasons.... The problem some ppl might see here is that  Saudis did support evils like Saddam, and after that actively participated and provoked Sunni-Arabs in the civil war, then they (Gulf states/Turkey) started the ISIS drama and massacred thousands of Iraqis in the process.... but after all if Iraq needs electricity and buys it from Saudis, I don't see a big problem...
    But stop making fitnah on everything and compare Iran on all levels with every single issue... Why there always be a bad guy (Iran) in your stories?  Iran did not adopt Iraq to be either responsible for all its problems/expenses or else, Iran is a bad father and Iraq is now turning to its enemies!  Iraq as a whole should decide and take responsibility for its foreign and domestic problems... If Iraqis (now) think that Saudis and all other little monafiq-puppet Gulf states are good business partners after all they did to Iraq, then be it, good for you!
    Tomorrow empower  Abubakar al-Baghdadi and Saddam's daughters and make them the prime minister and president of Iraq, if you think it is good for Iraqis without any logical explanation.. .. and  if you think that is the better option in confronting Iranian influence! That is right you might anger Iran by doing so, but you forget all about your own dark past with these ppl  and how you were abused and massacred by such individuals/groups...
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    Noah- got a reaction from wolverine in Pakistan election - July 25   
    I hope Imran distances Pakistan from Saudis and restrict the Takfiri ideology and Saudi puppets in the country! 
  16. Completely Agree
    Noah- got a reaction from Hameedeh in Pakistan election - July 25   
    I hope Imran distances Pakistan from Saudis and restrict the Takfiri ideology and Saudi puppets in the country! 
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    Noah- got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Free Gonen Segev   
    ^I don't believe it. You can easily buy Muslim ministers but not Israelis. He was probably sharing some information on energy sectors that benefited both countries and maybe the government of Israeli at the time knew about it.... Israeli government and officials are full of lies, bluffs, and deception. That is their policy all these years.
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    Noah- reacted to Sumerian in Iraq Election Results   
    That's right. The structure of Iraq must change from top to bottom if any real change is to happen. 
    Brother I am not comparing Iran to the Gulf States. The Gulf States have more Iraqi blood on their hands than anyone on the Planet. They, and the US, is the cause of all of our problems. But we can't brush away genuine concerns we have with Iran, wherein we have politicians in Iraq who look out for Iranian interests just as much if not more so than Iraqi interests. 
    The Government and the Army can't strengthen if we have bodies in Iraq who refuse to abide by the Government and its Army and the current laws. 
    And finally, I want Iraq's relationship with Iran to be the same as Algeria's relationship with Iran. We have mutual interest and we agree on those interests, and when we disagree then we disagree, what I don't want is Iran pushing us to follow its own interest. Algeria is a partner of Iran and friend, and I want Iraq to be the same. I don't want Iraq to be like Syria is to Iran.
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    Noah- got a reaction from shiasoldier786 in Iraq Election Results   
    I respect your opinions and like you as an active user on this forum, but I am happy that you are disappointed a bit here...
    This alliance (if successful) is  very important for unity of Iraq especially after what happened in last 5-6 yrd of bloodshed and I hope they continue to work together!!!  Those who hated Sadr used the opportunity to start chanting against him more than he deserved, and those who hated groups (with close relation to Iran) also found an opportunity and started using tens of excuses like you to sideline a huge segment of your society by associating them with IRAN and IRAN only, and put the (Iraqism/nationalism) mask, and possibly pleasing Gulf states in claiming to finish Iranian influence! As I told you earlier, these stories are just for show off... Sadr probably is as close to Iran as Ameri or Maliki or Hakim...just different opinions, Sadr probably doesn't like Iranian attitudes in some cases and Maliki probably doesn't mind some Iranian behaviors.. Maybe you know more than what I know about your country and politicians, but from what I know, Iran doesn't run the show in Iraq and Lebanon or Yemen and Syria, Iran is not the boss, Iran is not a superpower, Iran is not an economic power, Iran has a lot of issues itself. The point:  Iran is not the same to Ameri or Hassan Nasrallah as US or Britain is to King of Saudi or King of Jordan  or Hariri or Sisi for example... For your nationalism purposes it is better to be close to  Iran than to be under the feet of western powers or a little puppet of  Saudi... like Hariri (the Prime Minister of a country) who was locked up, humiliated, and left his post by reading Bin Salman's wish-list from Saudi soil...in my entire life I do not remember something like that happened to an Iranian ally by Iranian government...  You might say, oh I don't want anybody in Iraq, but you should realize that your not US or China and of course you are not on the moon.. your country needs allies and partners in all aspects!
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    Noah- reacted to shiasoldier786 in Iraq Election Results   
    Sadr and Ameri just announced a coalition  
    But but but... all the washington thinktanks were saying the two man were rivals, and that Muqtada apparently loathed Ameri for close ties to Iran. 
    Anyways, this election is about the Iraqi people, so all the best to them and hope these two can bring an end to corruption.
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    Noah- got a reaction from realizm in Austria Expels Imams   
    Islamic Wahabi/Takfiri mosques/groups are tools in the hands of US/Britain/Israel.... other western and Christian or Muslim countries are victims. So, anybody who bans and kicks out these hypocrites and their backward and ignorant Muslims, GOOD FOR THEM.
    Because of these hypocrites (Zionists tools) all other ordinary Sunnis, Shia Muslims, and even easterner non-Muslims are having a hard time in the western societies.. but at the end I believe that is the aim of Zionists and Neocons.
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    Noah- got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Will Russia kick Iran out of Syria?   
    There is no need for any group or country to have military presence in Syria once the terrorists are defeated, Kurds and the Syrian government reach an agreement. And they will not stay anyways, it is expensive, and there is no need.. it has nothing to do with Israeli desire or demand. Syria has been a sovereign state and hopefully it will fully control its borders and bring peace so millions of refugees who been a problem for neighbors will return home and life goes back to normal. But, if Israel and Saudi pigs wish that they can pressure Shia groups  & Iran to leave Syria so the militants would advance again and prolong the war, that is just a wishful thinking.
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    Noah- reacted to repenter-gone4awhile in Iran, Turkey drying up Tigris river?   
    I'm not an expert in geography, but i don't see how Iran could possibly "dry up a river" it doesn't even have access too. Which policies are these and why?
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    Noah- reacted to Ashvazdanghe in Iran, Turkey drying up Tigris river?   
    Iran control a small portion Of it toward Turkey most of water of Tigris comes from Kurdish province which currently controls by Turkey but as usual everybody blames Iran for everything & Turkey is their hero.
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    Noah- reacted to Reza in Congrats Veteran Members!   
    BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:
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