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In the Name of God بسم الله

iraqiunited

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  1. right, so we are not to be punished for Adams so-called ''sin''. If you beleive what you say...then you should reject the doctrine of ''original sin'' But if you were to read EZEK 18: 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he s
  2. If as you also beleive God gave us free-will, then surely adam also had this free-will too, correct? if he did...then this proves my point that mankind is created with a weak nature...not an evil nature. If, as christianity is trying to convey to the world, that humanity is EVIL by nature, then you are contradicting yourself in saying we have free-will. Why would create us with free-will and with an evil nature? In order for God to be happy with us...we need atonement, right? so God is being appeased in this regard. Your twisting my words..i didnt say ''satan makes us sin'' i said we have a w
  3. redicilious! from what i can see...god condemned mankind and made a mistake (it says so in the OT somewhere)...so the ''son'' as it seems is being sacraficed to appease the father. the same rule applies. the nature of man is weak, not evil (as you christians are trying to convey to us). Satan takes advantage of our weak nature...and its upto us to be strong. Its as simple as that. If the OT is against human sacrafice...then how ''anti'' do you want it to be against ''God sacrafice''? Abaraham(s) offering his son was a proof of his and ismaels(s) submission to the will of God. Thats all.
  4. Maybe we should just be content with the knowledge has given us.
  5. yeah i know...but it should be an interesting read. In fact, ive been thinking about ordering that book for some months...but i have these doubts inside me whether theirs any point. Isnt it amazing how we humans love to ask questions? it kinda reminds me of the whole star trek exploring the unknown thing.
  6. placid: i really cudnt care-less wut ur bible says...sorry to sound harsh, but its jsut too obvious the bible is abrogated...buy bart erhmans books...i was gonna order ''misquoting jesus'' from amazon soon. its just getting boring talking about christianity these days...ive done it so many times, its become meaningless now. i think its my ego thats keeping me from closing me account on this site. :squeez:
  7. reply to warrior: no God is not a spirit...life is life...u cant make God a physical life entity now can you. now your starting to play word games...this is really starting to get boring...why dont u just research instead of boring us to death? at least Son of placid is fun to talk with...even when i unintentionnaly annoy him...he jokes about it. why cant u just relax a bit?
  8. i am good Praise be to God. Prophets are humble to God and fear him, they submit themselves to him...and out of their love for him they repent to him just as a means to worship him and be closer to him. Think about it, what better feeling could any person have other then to ask Beg God for something, anything...forgiveness even, even if u did nothing wrong. The jewish Prophets never commited any sins, some of them may have made minor mistakes, but never sin. So it would seem. it IS a part of you. Yet your spirit has a mind of its own? All the prophets of God would do what God commands th
  9. how can i close my account here? wsalaam
  10. hi warrior, how r you? Well in Islam we beleive that all the prophets of God are sinless and God gave them ''special wisdom'' if you like. For jews and you christians the prophets were prone to sinning. The ''word of God'' is not some physical or literal entity...its a reality which God GIVES to the prophets and messengers, he doesnt SHARE his own self with anyone or anything...because that would imply a form of tangiblity. If your spirit is YOU...then is Your hand YOU aswell? or is it a PART of you? a spirit is a creation which means it is a part of something. well, if my spirit had less o
  11. Good post netzari. Now your twisting the argument, you answer my question with a question which is totaly not relevant to my origial point. Just in case you forgot, my question was...If the ''word of god'' dwelt in flesh...then whats the diference between all the other prophets and prophet jesus (s) ? let me ask you another question...is your spirit a part of you or not? well, i would probably say ''he is light'' and i dont mean literally or physically a light. But I would never go beyond the red line and say ''he is a spirit'' well i suppose ''dont care'' was wrong of me to say...i meant
  12. umar can suck a golf ball through a garden hoze.
  13. I didnt ask whether their were ''2 parts'' u seem to be confused. Are you telling me that my spirit is not a part of me? If you dont mind...please read the supplication by one of our imams (s)...and then perhaps you'll have a slightly better understanding of our concept of God is. http://www.al-islam.org/sahifa/dua1.html But none of the prophets mean anything to YOU. That was my point, only the cross is significant in your life...you probably dont care if moses even existed...right? all that matters is that you are ''saved''. I can promise you...the jews would beg to differ. they hate jesus
  14. oh ye of little faith...lol common satyaban...youve been on shiachat long enough to know what we beleive about God. God is not a mystery, as christians make him out to be. Rather the christian God is a contradiction, but God is never a contradiction. This is what i meant...we are allowed to know him as he is...not to just beleive in something that is nonsensical. peace.
  15. again, you refuse to answer my question...because you are still insisting on giving God parts like ''physical word'' and ''lights'' and ''spirit''. Do you know ANYTHING about islam? or just that muslims are infidels? and that islam is one of those ''eastern religions''?? Do you have any idea what our concept of God is? did the muslim make God a moving spirit? or a man? or a frog? NO..YOU CHRISTIANS HAVE. The only lie in your religion is the lie which YOU have created and brought upon it and on the innocent prophet jesus (s) whom YOU have oppressed! he will not be happy with you come judgment
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