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hadez803

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    hadez803 reacted to alirex in The "shia-Sunni" Google Experiment   
    Tawheed ? Are you born to cry. Or you have solution too ?
     
    Making these posts in Shiachat make no sense.
     
    Make 10-20 Blog with names .. Shia-islam.blogspot , Shia-Muslims.blogspot etc etc and write the facts with images what is Shia Islam and what is the fact. For sure your effort will work one day, At least you can tell Allah on Judgement day i tried hard to convey right message.
     
    Is this not simple ?
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    hadez803 reacted to kamyar in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    If this basic concept is so complicated for you ,isn't it better to avoid these postbardments and trying not to waste members time ?
     
    It is clear members here judged Bahais by their own ideology and actions and through what God has taught us .
     
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    You don't need to respond this post I can guess it already :
     
    Daeshis also believe God has taught them to kill people .
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    hadez803 got a reaction from kamyar in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    I gave up on responding to "Wahdat" because it seems his definition of 'reason' and 'logic' differs with everybody else. You can't argue about 'oranges' with someone who sees oranges as 'apples'.
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    hadez803 reacted to mesbah in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    action and direction, both are important.
    action=amal
    direction=Iman, (system of wilaya under which and for which the action is carried out)
    both are equally important.
     
    there were many good people, who by their moral and good actions helped the taghut throughout history.
    you have to realize which system you are playing for and helping, with your little good actions here and there, but at the end of the day, you look at your life and see taghut has been misusing you, while you were thinking you were a moral and good person who wished for a moral ideal state.
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    hadez803 reacted to repenter-gone4awhile in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    1. Hezbollah is not a government, it's a party and a militia group that has Ayatollah Khamenei as their leader, and what does Ayatollah Khamenei say about bahais? So if they stand for truth, then what are we discussing?
    2. Ever seen a bahai in south lebanon openly speaking about bahaism? If so please show us. 
    3. Letting Allah be the judge sounds all fine and dandy, so basically lets forget about his laws and let's not have judges, Allah is the judge. This logic is flawed. 
    4. Prophet Musa should have let people worship the golden cow too, because people should be allowed to worship whatever they like right?
    5. Practically all the marjas say we should ignore and not mingle with Bahais. Can you explain to me how this is practical? If it's not, are you saying all our marjas are wrong?
    6. Your definition of dignity and honor is not neccesseraly agreed upon by Islam or other muslims. I do agree that some of their laws implement it better, such as taking care of the poor, free education etc. But some aren't, ever since they let any schmuck speaking their mind and do what ever they like, the entire northen hemisphere has turned atheist. It's easy to see that if you let the divine religions go it will turn bad, just like most european countries and american countries are turning more and more atheists by the day, and it's also bad to be extreme in terms of just accepting Islam in extreme form and no other divine religion such as ISIS. The best form is the form of Quran where the divine religions are perscribed, nothing else has room in society, keep it in your homes. 
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    hadez803 got a reaction from mina in Can You Identity Any Bahai Conspiracy Theories?   
    I thoroughly read your blog post. This is how I summarize it:
    1- You start the blog by playing the victim by citing some harsh comments from anonymous users on some weblogs (e.g. some dude said Baha'is must be killed). This is a tactic I have frequently seen used by Baha'is to create a sense of sympathy towards Baha'is and Baha'ism.
    2- You connected the aforementioned comments and claims of Baha'is practicing incest to Iranian government policy about Bah'ais. In fact, the government of Iran's stance on Bah'ais is this: Baha'ism a cult that endangers national security. Their reasons for this stance is out of the scope of the current discussion.
    3- You tried to disprove the legality of incest in Baha'ism by stating that no Baha'i practices incest or by asking for evidence showing Baha'is practice incest. Excuse me, but if you haven't realized it yet, that is not how you disprove the existence of a law.
    4-You have dishonesty attributed things to me that I have never stated: e.g.
    Where did I say "It must happen"? From my first post, my stance was this: Baha'i law allows incest. I criticized the law, I didn't speak about incest happening.
    Where did I make such an argument?
    5- You failed to produce any evidence that explicitly mentions incest is prohibited in Baha'ism (except parent's spouse).
    In fact, if the Baha'i cult house of justice believed incest is illegal under Baha'i law, they would have explicitly stated this fact instead of giving guidelines on how and when incest can be performed.
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    hadez803 reacted to mesbah in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    again, the fact that one cannot distinguish between right and wrong, justice and injustice, does not mean there's no distinction.
    the fact that you cannot distinguish between wilayat Allah and Wilayat al-taghut, does not mean everyone is in the wilayat Allah and is on the right path.
    by spreading your confusions you cannot attain guidance, nor can you defend "secular morality" by addressing a lady in such a rude manner.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    I gave up on responding to "Wahdat" because it seems his definition of 'reason' and 'logic' differs with everybody else. You can't argue about 'oranges' with someone who sees oranges as 'apples'.
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    Are you doing this on purpose? Your thinking is far from ratio and logic.
    Different countries have different constitutions on which people agreed upon.And enemies to that constitution get surveilled and face consequences for their actions.
    In Germany groups,ideologies, indivuals who act against constitution will face consequence,in Iran groups,people,individuals who act against constitution will face consequence.This is in every state because that's the point of a constitition of a country.
    So Germans would take actions if I spread racist and anti-semitic ideology.Iran takes action when bahais proselytize that baha'ullah is the last prophet and God himself.
    So difficult?
    I wrote yesterday that before I judge about an ideology to be dangerous,I inform myself about the ideology itsself.If the ideology is like nazi,wahabi,scientology,bahaism or whatever and are against moral,peace,co-existence and brainwash,proselytize hardcore spread racism,hatred,incest,I'm able to build my opinion about it,based upon what those ideologies deem allowed and lawful.
    And don't call me missy.Say sister or nothing at all please.
    What do you think is the base of Hezbollah's model?
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    hadez803 reacted to kamyar in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    What are you trying to say here ?These are irrelevant like your previous posts on this thread .
     
    You either have very poor logic or are teasing us .
     
    This is one of the most basic principle of philosophy and way of thinking :
     
    1. Proving something doesn't prove others : اثبات یک شی اثبات ماعدا نمی کند 
     
    In other word ,when you prove what you are saying about Bahaism ,It doesn't prove what some others are saying about Islam.For example ,when you call Bahaism a cult ,it doesn't prove the same claims about Shia .This is so easy and I wonder why you don't understand this simple fact .
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    It's actually none of your business why I live where I live and it has zero to do with what we are discussing here,but the sun is shining and I'll answer you ...If I'd "find" my neighbour doing incest,I'd call the police and let them do their job.Incest ist forbidden here.
    I was born and raised here,didn't choose that.I'm here because my family is here and I support them.According to Islam I can't just go anywhere I like without permission of my waliy.Asides from that if it would be as easy as you said to move to Iran,I would do that.
    I don't know where you get the idea that muslims have to live in ME btw.Wether religion ist important to me or I'm just a hypocrite is up to Allah to judge.You don't know me and your assumptions and judgements about me are unimportant to the discussion and show that you have no argument instead "ask" personal questions to change the subject.If you don't have arguments just leave it.
    Proove for incest in bahaism is that the "infallible" and highest authority UHJ allows it.
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    Actually it's not our view but it's a law of our religion just like the incest law of bahaism...no matter if they accept or practise or not.
    The view of others is not important,it's important what the religion allows or not,to get an image of the religion.
    Btw Sunnis have misyar,jihad nikah,nikah bi niyyat talaq and what not...all are some type of temporary contract between man and woman...so your example is not comparable to the incest issue which is clearly allowed by the infallible UHJ.
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    You are mixing up things brother.Religions differ from their followers in a lot of cases . That's why I look at the religion,ideology not at the followers in the first step.If a religion or ideology allows incest or has racist approaches then I can make up my mind about it without knowing one follower of it who might subjectively of course interprete it different.Some follow the UHJ and stand behind that ideology that's why it's important to take a stance and actions against it.
    I know an ex- bahai who is not bahai anymore because of some laws of UHJ...she wasn't aware of what the "religion" is based on.
    Imam Jafar Sadiq (as) said "We are the children of the proof,we take the direction the proof takes."
    The only proof for religions or ideologies is their law basis,not only what followers do accept or not from these laws.
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    hadez803 reacted to repenter-gone4awhile in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    What kind of logic is this? We can prove to any illiterate sunni that its a difference between muta and prostitution. Can bahahis prove that its fine and dandy to have a go with family members? you can't just resort to any example that pops into your head without checking if its comparable with the issue we are talking about. It almost feels like you have realized you are defending a god forsaken cult and you are looking for a way to save face here. Just let it go bro.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    According to Baha'i law and the rule of the Baha'i cult UHJ incest is allowed in this cult. Period. If you can disprove this, I'm listening, or else don't resort to irrelevant similitudes and secondary topics.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    I conceded nothing. I proved Baha'is are allowed to perform incest. Just because I can't show you an example of such an act it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I don't personally know any gay Baha'is but that doesn't mean there are no gay Baha'is.
    By the way children born out of incest do not automatically become mongoloids and retards. Incest merely increases the risks.
     
    No I do not believe Baha'ism is deficient as a religion "because it's scripture does not contain a list of the prohibited degrees of affinity for marriage". I believe  Baha'ism is deficient as a religion because of the sheer amount of contradictions, many times nonsense scripture specially the works of the Bab and many of the Tablets of Baha'u'llah, its history, and its non-conformance to the Prophecies in Shia Islam about the Mahdi and end times prophecies and... I can mention hundreds of topics and I will once I have some free time on my hand.
     
     
     
    According to Baha'ullah's decree, the Baha'i cult Universal House of Justice (UHJ) has the final say on the issue of incest not a certain Mr Sen Robert Mark McGlinn. You can bring up hundreds of reasons to try to deny the legality of incest in Baha'ism, but it would be futile because when the UHJ was asked on this topic, they allowed it. They could have easily made it illegal but they didn't. Instead they gave a few guidelines on how incest should be performed; must I repeat:
     
    "The Universal House of Justice has instructed us to acknowledge your letter of 15 December 1980 in which you ask what prohibitions, in addition to the one on marrying one's step-mother, there may be restricting marriage between relatives, and to say that the House of Justice has not as yet seen fit to make regulations on the subject of marriage with one's kindred. For the present, therefore, decisions are left to the consciences of the individual Bahá'ís who must, of course, obey the civil law. Consideration must also be given to the prevailing customs and traditions in each country so that any action in this respect will not reflect upon the Faith in an adverse way."(From a letter written on behalf of the Universal House of Justice to a National Spiritual Assembly, January 15, 1981, in Lights of Guidance, no. 1289)
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    What has this to do with baha'ism in Iran?
    What do you mean when you say immoral?
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    hadez803 got a reaction from mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    Back in the old days when Khatami was president of Iran, the government asked the Baha'is to refrain from proselytizing in order to have their rights established (I can't remember the exact details right now). They refused and were dealt with accordingly. No government, whether the US or Afghanistan will tolerate a group that refuses to submit to its orders. The hypocrites run around in all countries of the world claiming that they submit to the orders of the governments of the lands they live in but apparently, Iran is an exception.
     
     
     
    Is the mingling of teenage girls without hijab with teenage boys not a form of corruption for society?
     
     
    People are treated in accordance with their actions, very where in the world. Treating people equally is simply meaningless and defies logic. You don't treat someone who disobeys the government the same as someone who obeys the government.
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    Einstein said,even if 6 mio say nonsense it's still nonsense.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    I've seen enough Baha'i arguments to know where this is heading. For anyone that doesn't know this is the pattern Baha'is use in their discussions, which are illogically wrong arguments based on wishful thinking:
     
    Argument 1: If we were not from God we wouldn't have survived this long.
    Answer: Paganism, atheism, and blah blah are not from God and well look how long they have survived.
     
    Argument 2: We are the most or second most widespread creed on the planet?
    Answer: So, what? How does that make Baha'i beliefs correct? What does that prove except the fact that like the Christian missionaries you have engaged in widespread proselytization. Look at the map here to see how their third leader Shoghi effendi intended to take over the world phase by phase; and yes their ultimate Goal is to take over the world. No government in their sane mind will stand aside and allow any group to undermine their foundation int the longtime.
     
    Argument 3: Baha'i is the fastest growing religion on earth.
    Answer: Even if true, this still proves nothing. Since when has the spreading speed of a creed become a criterion for the truth.
     
    Argument 4: All Prophets from God were met with resistance, just like Baha'u'llah. This means Baha'u'llah is a true Prophet.
    Answer: All imposters and Shams are also met with resistance.
     
    Argument 5: The more you attack us the more you will help us spread our faith, so please continue attacking us.
    Answer: These are the last hopeless attempts of someone who has no answer to an argument.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Haji 2003 in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    I've seen enough Baha'i arguments to know where this is heading. For anyone that doesn't know this is the pattern Baha'is use in their discussions, which are illogically wrong arguments based on wishful thinking:
     
    Argument 1: If we were not from God we wouldn't have survived this long.
    Answer: Paganism, atheism, and blah blah are not from God and well look how long they have survived.
     
    Argument 2: We are the most or second most widespread creed on the planet?
    Answer: So, what? How does that make Baha'i beliefs correct? What does that prove except the fact that like the Christian missionaries you have engaged in widespread proselytization. Look at the map here to see how their third leader Shoghi effendi intended to take over the world phase by phase; and yes their ultimate Goal is to take over the world. No government in their sane mind will stand aside and allow any group to undermine their foundation int the longtime.
     
    Argument 3: Baha'i is the fastest growing religion on earth.
    Answer: Even if true, this still proves nothing. Since when has the spreading speed of a creed become a criterion for the truth.
     
    Argument 4: All Prophets from God were met with resistance, just like Baha'u'llah. This means Baha'u'llah is a true Prophet.
    Answer: All imposters and Shams are also met with resistance.
     
    Argument 5: The more you attack us the more you will help us spread our faith, so please continue attacking us.
    Answer: These are the last hopeless attempts of someone who has no answer to an argument.
    ....
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    hadez803 reacted to mesbah in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    Yeah, Shaytan (Iblis) will live till the day of judgment (one of the longest lifetimes) he is promised to stay untill that day, but on the day of judgment, he is doomed to fail.
    Long or short, Everyone has a lifetime.
    The long lifetime does not mean the right path.
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    David,muslims don't have something similiar to the "House of Justice" based on the laws,including racist and incest stuff, of Bahá'u'lláh which they want to be implemented as soon as they reached a majority through proselytizing the people of a country.
    Ah,except the "teaching" of Israelis is not allowed...what kind of "universal religion" is this?
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    hadez803 reacted to mina in Why Does Iran Persecute Baha'is?   
    It's the gouverments duty to protect its constitution from a group which wants to establish a state within in the state.
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    hadez803 reacted to monad in Of What Use Is The Hiding Imam?   
    o0f what use is a hidden GOD?.... and how do you as a sunni benefit from a GOD that is hidden and how does a theist benefit from a GOD that an atheist is deprived off?. Btw I am sure you cannot provide any proof that your GOD provides you with benefits.
    General rule of thumb is to ask for sources that you yourself can read and study......
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