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hadez803

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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    Yes. many of Baha'u'llah's followers were addicted to Opium also. Hope you know that.
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    And this will help you!
    http://bahai-library.com/pdf/r/rohani_sweet_enchanting_stories.pdf
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    Hi magaman,
    That is an authoritative source. Just click the link and check the reference.
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    I think you should try to understand the position of Guardianist Baha'is (Orthodox Baha'is and BUPC Bahais). After all you believe in "Independent investigation of truth"!
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    Megaman, Why don't you guys do an Open Dialogue with your brothers in faith, the Orthodox Baha'is? Why not establish a unity among yourselves before trying to unite Shiism with Bahaism?
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    “the Guardian of the Faith has been made the permanent head of so august a body,” (Shoghi Effendi, The World Order of Bahā’u’llāh, p. 150)
    Shoghi destroyed Guardianship in Baha'ism, leaving the UHJ without a head and a body without a head is as good as dead.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from megaman in Mahdi and the 313   
    http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/ab/MA2/ma2-266.html#pg266
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Signs of the Day of Judgment   
    Share it with your friends. They will also enjoy it. According to Babi / Baha'i "religions" - The abrogation of Islam was declared in the conference of Badasht where Tahirih uncovered her between some 81 Babis. Babi / Baha'is believe that these Babis and this conference brought Qayamah for Islam! Isn't that so? Please correct me. One guy slit his throat after looking at "uncovered" Tahirih! Right?
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Signs of the Day of Judgment   
    Nope, the Babi conference of Badasht was not the day of Judgement. See this video by BBC Persian:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olrrtz3hyB0
    That is a nice piece of debate by BBC Persian.
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    Ok. Do you need Authoritative Sources for Historical incidents? Can you provide the dates of birth of Baha'u'llah, Abdul Baha and Shoghi Effendi from authoritative sources? Aren't those references from genuine Baha'i sources? One Source is Balyuzi, another Ahang Rabbani, and two Khalil Shahidi! These guys were all "Baha'is in Good Standing" (with 100% rights). :)
    Nope, the aim is establishing a Baha'i World Super-state a Baha'i World Order.
    http://bahaitexts.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-aim-of-all-bahai-activity.html
    Above source is authoritative. Enjoy.
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    Hi megaman
    Nope. I know at least 3 instances where Abdul Baha has slapped 3 different people, there must me more... these two-three incidents are referenced below, there is no mention of the word "Mild", in fact at one place there is a mention of a "Hard Slap"!
    http://bahaitexts.blogspot.com/2017/07/he-had-only-hard-slap-in-face-from.html
    http://bahaitexts.blogspot.com/2017/07/abdul-baha-slapped-him-in-ear-lifted.html
    http://bahaitexts.blogspot.com/2017/06/immediately-abdul-baha-slapped-him.html
    One man died mysteriously when Abdul Baha thought of slapping him.
    http://bahaitexts.blogspot.com/2017/07/abdul-baha-he-needs-slap.html
    But Abdul Baha says:
    - Abdu’l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, pp. 82-83.
    When Baha'u'llah preferred Arabic then the UHJ must know that language. Doesn't the UHJ loves their hero Baha'u'llah!? Some UHJ members don't even know Persian! They don't write themselves anything, it works like a PMO, everything is done by different Departments expert in different matters. UHJ only signs the letters (after so called "reflection"). That is not an issue for me. The issue for me is that UHJ is considered as infallible by Baha'is and in the future UHJ can impose war on some enemy countries that are hostile and the "peace-loving" Baha'is will accept this War because it has been ordered by the infallible UHJ! Baha'ism is not about love, peace and unity. It is about eradicating everything except Baha'ism and forming a NWO under its UHJ that has its permanent headquarters in Haifa, Israel.
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    Why Shoghi did not had a child? Was there any Medical reason for Shoghi or Ruhiyyih? Did Shoghi had some "special relationships" with Dr. Baghdadi with whom he used to spend months in Switzerland with Baha'i money?
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Mahdi and the 313   
    Hi Megaman,
    Those were not the followers of Mahdi. They were the followers of Shaykh Ahmad Ahsai who had weird beliefs regarding Mahdi and many other issues. And he founded the cult of Shaykhism, that paved the way for Babism.
    Regarding your claims about return of Imam Husayn please read this:
     
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Mahdi and the 313   
    So Mulla Husayn is the return of Imam Husayn or Baha'u'llah is the return of Imam Husayn? According to Baha'ism who is the "Return of Imam Husayn"?
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    hadez803 reacted to Badi19 in Mahdi and the 313   
    Babis were fighting with Shias, they killed many Shias. The Babis (who were Akhbari - Shaykhis & Ghulats) believed in the abrogation of Islam and they caused revolts in Iran causing huge casualties.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from HakimPtsid in Mahdi and the 313   
    Since the time that the followers are acting exactly according to the laws of their religion:
    “The utterance of the [book or religion] of Bayan in the day of the appearance of his Highness A`la (meaning the Bab) was to behead, burn the books, destroy the monuments, and massacre [everyone] but those who believed [in the Bab’s religion] and verified it,” Abdu’l-Baha, Makatib (Egypt: 1330 AH), vol. 2, p. 266.
    The Babis that fought at Fort Tabarsi were a bunch of Barbarians who murdered delegates and burned down innocent villages that refused to give them free provisions. Don't even dare to compare them to the 313 special companions of Imam Mahdi.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from HakimPtsid in Mahdi and the 313   
    Oh great! I love how Baha'is try to portray the Bab and his followers as peaceful people fighting for a just cause. Babi history was distorted by Babis and Baha'is with the intention of making it look like the Bab was the Mahdi. The reason the Iranian government was fighting against the Babis is this: The Bab was the equivalent of a 19th century ISIS with barbaric laws in his religion called the BAYAN. These laws were so barbaric that the Baha'i leader Abdu'l-baha had no choice but to confess that:
    “The utterance of the [book or religion] of Bayan in the day of the appearance of his Highness A`la (meaning the Bab) was to behead, burn the books, destroy the monuments, and massacre [everyone] but those who believed [in the Bab’s religion] and verified it,” Abdu’l-Baha, Makatib (Egypt: 1330 AH), vol. 2, p. 266.
    In order to fulfill these laws the Babis wreaked havoc in Iran and they were suppressed by the Persian government. But Babi and Baha'i historians will portray the Babis as oppressed saints. Professor Edward Browne the British orientalist narrates how the Babis fought at Fort Tabarsi by killing government envoys and burning down defenseless villages that they wanted to plunder:
    "During this revolt the Bábís took up a fortified position 10 or 12 miles from Bárfurúsh, at the shrine of Shaykh Tabarsí, near the river Tálár; they were few in number, but determined and fanatic, and after putting several envoys of the authorities to death, they prepared for a siege by collecting provisions from the neighbouring country; whenever the villagers hesitated or refused to give what they required, their houses were burnt about their ears." (Professor Edward Browne, Materials for the Study of the Babi Religion, p. 241 (circa. 1918))"
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Mahdi and the 313   
    Oh great! I love how Baha'is try to portray the Bab and his followers as peaceful people fighting for a just cause. Babi history was distorted by Babis and Baha'is with the intention of making it look like the Bab was the Mahdi. The reason the Iranian government was fighting against the Babis is this: The Bab was the equivalent of a 19th century ISIS with barbaric laws in his religion called the BAYAN. These laws were so barbaric that the Baha'i leader Abdu'l-baha had no choice but to confess that:
    “The utterance of the [book or religion] of Bayan in the day of the appearance of his Highness A`la (meaning the Bab) was to behead, burn the books, destroy the monuments, and massacre [everyone] but those who believed [in the Bab’s religion] and verified it,” Abdu’l-Baha, Makatib (Egypt: 1330 AH), vol. 2, p. 266.
    In order to fulfill these laws the Babis wreaked havoc in Iran and they were suppressed by the Persian government. But Babi and Baha'i historians will portray the Babis as oppressed saints. Professor Edward Browne the British orientalist narrates how the Babis fought at Fort Tabarsi by killing government envoys and burning down defenseless villages that they wanted to plunder:
    "During this revolt the Bábís took up a fortified position 10 or 12 miles from Bárfurúsh, at the shrine of Shaykh Tabarsí, near the river Tálár; they were few in number, but determined and fanatic, and after putting several envoys of the authorities to death, they prepared for a siege by collecting provisions from the neighbouring country; whenever the villagers hesitated or refused to give what they required, their houses were burnt about their ears." (Professor Edward Browne, Materials for the Study of the Babi Religion, p. 241 (circa. 1918))"
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    I think you don't know what WISDOM means.
    According to Shoghi, Shoghi must appoint a successor: "It incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor( Shoghi Effendi, Bahā’ī Administration, p. 8 ) ", but shoghi fails to appoint a successor even though he writes in his own books that he should.
    I would in no manner call such a person wise or trust in his wisdom.
     
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Badi19 in Bahais in iran   
    According to Baha'i scripture, the Universal House of justice is only valid and legal if there exists a Baha'i Guardian beside it:
    "This new Order which is superior to the void sickly orders of the world and is unique, unparalleled, and unheard of throughout the history of religions, is based on two powerful pillars: the first which is greater is the pillar of divine Guardianship that is the source of interpretations and the second pillar is the divine Universal House of Justice that is the reference of legislation. Just as it is impossible to separate between the laws of the Legislator of the Order (meaning Baha’u’llah) and his fundamental basis’ which the Center of the Covenant has declared, separating the two pillars of the New Order from each-other is impossible and infeasible." ( Shoghi Effendi, Tauqī’āt mubāraki khiṭāb bi aḥibbā’ sharq (Langenhain [Germany]: Lajniyi Millī Nashr Āthār Amrī Bi Zabānhayi Fārsī wa `Arabī, 149 B.[1992]), p. 301. )
    Well all Baha'i Prophecies about a living Guardian turned into failure after Shoghi effendi the first and last Baha'i Guardian suddenly died without appointing a successor. So now there is a Baha'i Universal House of Justice (UHJ) that is completely illegal according to Baha'i scripture.
    When you are an illegal entity forcing your opinion on poor Baha'is worldwide, you can only be called a House of INJUSTICE.
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Bahais in iran   
    I think you don't know what WISDOM means.
    According to Shoghi, Shoghi must appoint a successor: "It incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor( Shoghi Effendi, Bahā’ī Administration, p. 8 ) ", but shoghi fails to appoint a successor even though he writes in his own books that he should.
    I would in no manner call such a person wise or trust in his wisdom.
     
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    hadez803 got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Bahais in iran   
    The writings of Baha'u'llah have not been completely interpreted by Shoghi (the Guardian) and Abdu'l-Baha. In fact there are volumes and volumes of writings that are sometimes completely incomprehensible and no interpretation from any Baha'i figure exists for them. The Guardian  (Shoghi) was supposed to interpret these works, but where is he? Oh he's dead! And he was supposed to select his successor from his own children while he was alive:
    "O ye beloved of the Lord! It is incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor, that differences may not arise after his passing. He that is appointed must manifest in himself detachment from all worldly things, must be the essence of purity, must show in himself the fear of God, knowledge, wisdom and learning. Thus, should the first-born of the Guardian of the Cause of God not manifest in himself the truth of the words:—“The child is the secret essence of its sire,” that is, should he not inherit of the spiritual within him (the Guardian of the Cause of God) and his glorious lineage not be matched with a goodly character, then must he, (the Guardian of the Cause of God) choose another branch to succeed him." ( Shoghi Effendi, Bahā’ī Administration, p. 8)
    OOps. Shoghi was senile and couldn't have children and he couldn't appoint a successor. This is the ultimate failure of Baha'ism. And please stop the ramblings about there being no need for a Guardian. The Guardian is the permanent head of the Universal House of Justice. The Baha'i Universal House of Justice is currently functioning without a HEAD and a body without a HEAD is as good as dead:
    “the Guardian of the Faith has been made the permanent head of so august a body,” (Shoghi Effendi, The World Order of Bahā’u’llāh, p. 150)


  23. Confused
    hadez803 reacted to megaman in Mahdi and the 313   
    Hi @hadez803, I don't disagree that the Babis did these things but since when do we attach what the adherence of religion did to that of the religion itself. 
    Was Imam Husayn not killed by Muslims?
    Sure, the laws of the Bayan are controversial and extreme at times but it was only until "He Whom God Shall Make Manifest", Baha'u'llah's appearance, which was 19 years after the declaration of the Bab. Furthermore, this quote by the Bab clears things up a bit more:
     The Persian Bayan was completed after 1848 to it's laws were only in effect for 15 years, until the proclamation of Baha'u'llah in 1863.
  24. Subhanallah!
    hadez803 reacted to megaman in Bahais in iran   
    Hi @hadez803, the rest of that quote is as follows:
    As you hold the decisions of the Imams to be infallible, the Bahai's also trust in the Wisdom of the Guardian, Shoghi Effendi, who did not appoint a successor.
  25. Completely Agree
    hadez803 got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Bahais in iran   
    According to Baha'i scripture, the Universal House of justice is only valid and legal if there exists a Baha'i Guardian beside it:
    "This new Order which is superior to the void sickly orders of the world and is unique, unparalleled, and unheard of throughout the history of religions, is based on two powerful pillars: the first which is greater is the pillar of divine Guardianship that is the source of interpretations and the second pillar is the divine Universal House of Justice that is the reference of legislation. Just as it is impossible to separate between the laws of the Legislator of the Order (meaning Baha’u’llah) and his fundamental basis’ which the Center of the Covenant has declared, separating the two pillars of the New Order from each-other is impossible and infeasible." ( Shoghi Effendi, Tauqī’āt mubāraki khiṭāb bi aḥibbā’ sharq (Langenhain [Germany]: Lajniyi Millī Nashr Āthār Amrī Bi Zabānhayi Fārsī wa `Arabī, 149 B.[1992]), p. 301. )
    Well all Baha'i Prophecies about a living Guardian turned into failure after Shoghi effendi the first and last Baha'i Guardian suddenly died without appointing a successor. So now there is a Baha'i Universal House of Justice (UHJ) that is completely illegal according to Baha'i scripture.
    When you are an illegal entity forcing your opinion on poor Baha'is worldwide, you can only be called a House of INJUSTICE.
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