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  1. I smell the formation of some idiotic cult going on here. Uncle Sami , please stop posting apocalytic conspiracy theory nonsense here unless you are going to provide evidence. Your big claims about having secret insider knowledge from elite circles might even be true but the burden of proof remains on you to back these up. Ahlul bayt 110 , you do not need to quit school or university. And remember that you must obey your parents unless they call you to sin. If they want you to go to uni or school then go to school/uni.
  2. @TheIslamHistory, are there no chains given in the original source for this hadith? Could you please provide some narrations on verse 5:67@ghadeer with either chains or at least statements authenticating them from sunni scholars, otherwise there is not much leg to stand on. What about shia hadith- are there no Shia hadith with chains that attach 5:67 to ghadir?
  3. Why don't you take your friends along to a sham e ghariba majlis next year to lay rest to that nonsense. Facts are 1) We gather in a mosque/islamic centre where we have totally separate mens' and womens' areas. 2) we listen to a poetry and majlis about the oppression of the ladies of ahlul bayt after their men were martyred 3) After majlis we do matam and listen to nauha 4) We eat food distributed in honour of ahlul bayt of Muhammad (sa) 5) In my 38 yrs of life have never witnessed any inacceptable sexual/perverted behaviour after sham e ghariba - May Allah punish me severly if I ever have and I am covering it up 6) muta is temporary marriage 7) we go home after sham r ghariba majlis 8) most shias probably don't even enjoy halal sexual relations with spouses out of grief on that night, let alone hanky panky
  4. Abul hussain, Im struggling to see how the example quoted here implies the verse of balligh was revealed on the day of arafah without subjective interpretation... Could you please provide arabic text in case i am missing some "trick" here?
  5. Thanks for all responses so far. Please, could all please keep this thread very specific. On the topic of ayah balligh, then... Abul Hussain, why do you find this hadith weak or fabricated?
  6. Abul Hussain, are there there no hasan or sahih narrations as rated by scholars from your (guessing sunni) school of thought , that link the verses of tableegh to the date of the ghadeer event? Also, you mentioned weak and fabricated hadith... Which hadith are thoss and who considered them weak/fabricated, and for which reasons? Thanks
  7. Salams all What are the most authentic shia and sunni sourced hadith that link certain verses from the Quran to the event of Ghadeer? And most importantly what are their gradings according to the respective schools of thoughy? The verses under consideration are: 5:3 - Kamaluddin حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةُ وَالدَّمُ وَلَحْمُ الْخِنزِيرِ وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ وَالْمُنْخَنِقَةُ وَالْمَوْقُوذَةُ وَالْمُتَرَدِّيَةُ وَالنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَا أَكَلَ السَّبُعُ إِلَّا مَا ذَكَّيْتُمْ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى النُّصُبِ وَأَن تَسْتَقْسِمُوا بِالْأَزْلَامِ ذَٰلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ الْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِن دِينِكُمْ فَلَا تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَاخْشَوْنِ الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِّإِثْمٍ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ 5:67 - Tableegh يَا أَيُّهَا الرَّسُولُ بَلِّغْ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ وَإِن لَّمْ تَفْعَلْ فَمَا بَلَّغْتَ رِسَالَتَهُ وَاللَّهُ يَعْصِمُكَ مِنَ النَّاسِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الْكَافِرِينَ 70:1 - Saail سَأَلَ سَائِلٌ بِعَذَابٍ وَاقِعٍ Thanks in advance!
  8. Imamat is proven in Allah demanding unconditional obedience to the leader. The only way to get such a leader that will not command to sin is from divine appointment. Is there any other way to have such a guarantee?
  9. If the prophet was living right in front of them, there was no need to keep reiterating everything the people were already witnessing day to day
  10. Confusion and disarray after the Prophet's death was not owing to any weakness in designation of the imam by the prophet. It was the fault of the people for making confusion for themselves. Eg, denying and hiding ghadeer, refusing him a pen and paper on his deathbed, etc.
  11. He named the first of them (Ali) yet there was still ''confusion'. Would 11 more names have made difference?? In fact, in some accounts he even mentioned hassan and hussain, but there was still confusion. The holy quran says that the Prophet was named as (Ahmed) in the hebrew scriptures yet when he came he was still rejected by most.
  12. Yes, in several places. It is most clearly made a distinct role from prophethood in surah baqarah where prophet ibrahim is promoted to the rank of imamat after passing some trials. 2:124 وَإِذِ ابْتَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا قَالَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِي قَالَ لَا يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ
  13. @blacknight, look more closely at the detail of how (w-l-y) has been translated by each author in verse 55 as opposed to verse 56. The translations variance means verses 55 and 56 are not talking about the same thing! So u cannot connect the verses. Also Verse 55 is addressed at All people not just beleivers... if you take wali in v55 to mean friend that would imply Allah is even telling someone like Adolf Hitler that He+prophet+believer are friends to them (!!) and if you take wali to mean helper then that means Allah+prophet+believers are helpers to people like Adolf Hitler. Similarly the protectorship meaning of wali also fails as Allah+prophet+believers have no business protecting ppl like adolf hitler! The only logical definition of wali is AUTHORITY. Then it makes sense that Allah+prophet+believers are an authority over others And finally, since wali means Authority in this context, we clearly cannot have every believer an authority over each other. Therefore, the believers referrered to into this verse must be a subset of believers. Which have been clarified to be only those that gave zakat WHILE bowing
  14. Salam Thanks, lovely dua.. But is there a typo in the arabic print? The english translation says there's the verse, "O He Who provides for infants", but the arabic text doesn't contain something along the lines of "ya raziq at-tifl as-sagheer"...
  15. I think Daniel has done an excellent job of exposing the reality of just how much "love" of Ahlul Bayt there truly is in Ahlus Sunnah wal-jam'ah as a mainstream. Yes, there's a handful of Sunnis to whom ahlul bayt have some meaning. But to the mainstream sect, Ahlul Bayt are an unnecessary inconvenience they can do without. Of course, a fabricated "love" of Ahlul Bayt is quickly spun up at the "right time" - which is usuallly when arguing with (or berating) Shias.
  16. Salams This came to me as a surprise, but according to a Code of practice for Muslims in the west (according to A. Seestani's rulings), the food additive E120 (also called Carmine or Cochineal) is halal, despite it coming from insects. Is anyone else here also aware of this, as the presence of E120 is very widespread and avoiding it is difficult! M. Ali
  17. (salam) This sounds like the nonsense typical of those Shias who believe they can have salvation in spite of being too lazy to follow the legal code of Islam. Our Shia Imams were not ONLY asked excessive questions on philosophy and aqaid, but loads and loads on jurisprudential issues. In his caliphate Imam Ali placed great emphasis on explaining laws of fiqh, practicing them correctly, and encouraging it. Imam Ja'far Sadiq (as) was such an authority on laws of fiqh that even though Sunnis didn't accept his aqaed/philosphic arguments, their Imams relied on him for knowledge of laws. Even in Bibi Fatima (as)'s sermon in the court of Abu Bakr defending her rights, she places emphasis on ahkam. I'm not trying to say that Shi'ism doesnt place the spirit of the law, spirituality, and ma'rifat above external acts of worship and akham - because it DOES.. But Vali Nasr's argument is taking this to an extreme as though Shiaism was classifically some kind of wooly-liberal group that places no responsibility of outwardly practice on its adherent, when in fact it does. It's the "Ghulatification" of Shi'ism that has reduced the value of legal-mindedness to Shias, especially among Shias of India and Pakistan (I admit this as a Pakistani). This was probably in part due to the influences of innovative Sufis and Ismaelis. Ismaelis for instance practice virtually none of the laws in daily life- eg., they seem to be too intellectually above having to pray 5 times a day - instead they like to "meditate". Some our own Ithna-Asheris for instance believe in disregarding prayers, fasting, and Hajj - instead focussing only on azadari rituals. But unlike what Nasr would say, Shiaism didnt BEGIN like this- it's ended UP like this. Just my 2c
  18. Ghaybah Nu'mani has several references to the mother of Al-Qaim(AS) being a black slave girl.
  19. I agree- I think she's really a very azeem personality. I heard about making use of her waseela in a Maulana Sadiq Hasan majlis as follows - to recite something like Ziyarat-e-Ashura as a hadiya to her, and to ask for Imam-e-Zamana to remember us in his duas. Since hearing that, I dedicated not only ziyarat-e-ashura for her, but many other acts of worship (virtually every verse of Quran I recite)!. And alhamdulillah, I can't complain about how comfortable my life and personal affairs are.
  20. Thanks for the link, but my arabic is about good enough to spot "Sufyan al-Thawri" mentioned in that article several times but I cannot tell what it says. Could you pls tell me a bit about its jist. jazakallah. I should admit that my arabic was *however* sufficient to understand that Sufyan Thawri is mentioned expounding the virtues of this dua in ur original post from Bihar
  21. I dont want to be a killjoy, but I'm trying to understand why has Allama Majlisi made mention of self-styled "sufis" Hasan Basri and Sufyan Thawri to tell us the virtues of this dua. Were they involved in the chain of narrations for this dua? This dua appears to be coming to us straight from Imam Ali (as), but who are the intermediate narrators? Were they sufis or sunnis? Just curious.
  22. Er... weren't u a sunni or something? hmm...
  23. Did this lady convert to islam after seeing this miracle?
  24. To understand which Khurasan is spoken of you need to look at other hadith that mention the same characters and similar flags to build up a bigger picture. Based on all that, it seems that Khurasan refers to that part of northern afghanistan which borders tajikistan - even more specifically, the historic city of taleqan, and near the oxus river. "jayhoon"
  25. Putting aside the issue of whether or not they were responsible for that act, what about this act would you consider to be "terrorist"? :dry: And "peace keeping mission" and "US Marines" are two things that just cannot go together no matter how hard you try, I'm afraid. The US in its foreign policy engagements can hardly ever be considered the neutral party that can "keep peace".
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