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MuslimUnity

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  1. one thing i admire about ahul sunnah is that they don't deal with numerology. it simply has no value and is mostly guess work
  2. Too many Muslims are confused about the topic of Mut'ah. I'll try and make it simple; Whether or not the act of Mut'ah is halal is first of all irrelevant. However there are facts that both sects attest to - It was practiced under Muhammed (pbuh) and at one point in history, halal - Narrations show it was Umar who outlawed it, claiming Muhammed (pbuh) had done so earlier - There is a verse in the Qu'ran that explicitly mentions it (I believe some Ahul Sunnah say it means something else? It is however, explicit) And like I said, whether or not Mut'ah is to be practiced today you need to understand, through this short history lesson that it is NOT a Shi'a concept nor is it foreign to Islam. Wa' salam. -
  3. nabi muhammed (saw) was divinely guided, how can this be elaborated on...?
  4. - Iran? ... I don't think you understand. When I said you are politically Arab I did not mean you're personal beliefs on politics. Your country of origin, Lebanon, is Arab. Politically. Hope you understand what I'm saying. - That was my point, you have Semitic genetics. Not necessarily Arab, because remember that term was never really defined throughout history so you have recent DNA tracing back to the Arabian Peninsula. - You are going to honestly argue you have nothing in common with other Arabs aside from religion? - That's not what I mean. Is your native tongue not Arabic? As a person of Lebanese descent, it is. So, yes you native language and your peoples native language is Arabic. And lastly, I already told you I know the people of the Levant are recent descendants of an older people. You seem to think you cannot be Arab because of this. Remember how I said as an Iraqi I can claim I'm more closely related to Sumerians then Arabs? But I am still an Arab due to the reasons above. It seems as if you just want to disassociate yourself with the modern stigma of being Arab in today's world, to be honest. And please don't convince yourself you look "different" when the people of Lebanon don't even look the same. @schrodiger, you have other issues brother.
  5. Islam has nothing to do with it, notice how I never mentioned it. Here are the facts; - Politically you are Arab - You have Arab and Semitic ancestry - Share more in common with Gulf Arabs then not - You speak Arabic as a native language You are Lebanese and not Khaleeji and in that sense you are different. But you are Arab. Every Lebanese, Syrian and Moroccan I met were convinced they are Arab. The one Algerian I spoke to about this claimed his people were Berbers. Not once in our conversation did he mention Phoenicians even though Algerians are probably more related to them then most of the Levant. He did say however he was an Arab politically and he was content with that. And that is my main point; all these people are still Arabic. Historically Arabs were never clearly defined which is why there is still debate about this topic.
  6. No, what I am saying is you have nothing in common with Phoenicians aside from some DNA strands. While at the same time you are related to a Semitic people (Arab and ancestors of Arabs) and share their traditions and language. Understand?
  7. You guys can't understand other dialects of Arabic? That's a shame. Its one thing to not be able to speak a dialect (understandable) but you should be able to understand it. The definition of the word Arab has long been debated, its not absolutely defined. The general consensus is that if you speak Arabic, raised on Arab customs and traditions and have ancestry dating back to the an Arab speaking country, then you are an Arab. But to suggest you're Phoenician, you need to understand that's absurd and linked to French propaganda when they occupied the Levant. After the Ottoman empire (post-ww2) collapsed the British occupied Iraq and told them, "Hey, you're not Arab you're Sumerian/Babylonian." They told the Levant their Phoenicians and gave Palestine to the Jews. Why? They didn't want the countries in the Arabian Peninsula and its neighbors to be on a united front. And Pan-Arabism was a response to this Western attempt. Egyptians have more of a claim that their not "genetically" Arab. Yet we had Pan-Arab leaders like Gamal Abdel Nasser convince all his people that they are in fact Arab. Mubarak tried and somewhat successfully did remove this idea from the Egyptians. Even the Iraqi Jews considered themselves to be Arab, although they are Semitic to begin with. But I will tell you this, there are in fact many familys and tribes that are closely linked to this extinct people. Marsh Arabs in Iraq are seen to be closely related to to ancient Sumerians and of course there are many ethnicity's in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq such as Assyrians, and again are also Semitic. Ok, I'm being to ramble and rant but the point is you can't claim Phoenician. And you are by all means, an Arab and your traditions and customs and politics define Arab politics and customs.
  8. Phoenicians?? French propaganda still engraved in your skull? I guess I'm not an Iraqi Arab but a Sumerian. You have more Arab in your blood then "Phoenician." Really, how many of you can trace your lineage back to really prove your descendants of Phoenicians and not a Yemeni merchant? Your culture, language and lifestyle is Arabic. European scum wanna-be's. Sad and pathetic when Western propaganda revives this French/British idea of "We're not Arab!!" I don't even know any Algerians or any other North Africans who call themselves Phoenician. Ya, you're Phoenicians. Lmao. Child. And whats more sickening is the people purposing the idea of dividing Syria into separate states. Exile the Alwaite family and hold elections. The last time I heard someone suggest dividing Iraq I nearly connected my first to his teeth. No wonder why we have weak leaders, look at our idiot people that want us to be divided and conquered. Though to be honest, I am more of a secularist. Religion and state simply cannot work without a divine leader (ie. mehdi). The Arab countries (sorry if I offend you Mr. Phoenician) will benefit more if they become secularist. Political Parties like the Muslim Brotherhood will destroy its host country like a parasite.
  9. Salam, I believe there is nothing more to argue. We all agree what the Qur'an says about Nabi Adam (as) in the garden. However you share the view this makes him (as) fallible and I do not as a follower of Ahul Bayt (as); Abu 's-Salt al-Harawî said: "al-Ma'mun gathered for 'Ali ibn Musa ar-Rida people of various sects from among the Muslims, the Jews, the Christians, the Magians, the Sabaeans and all other religions. Nobody stood (for religious discussion with the lmam) but that he was forced to accept his (Imam's) arguments and was put to silence. Then stood before him 'Ali ibn Muhammad ibn al-Jahm and said to him: 'Do you believe in the sinlessness of the prophets? O son of the Messenger of Allah!' He said: 'Yes.' He ('Ali ibn Muhammad ibn al-Jahm) said: 'Then what would you do with the words of Allah: and Adam disobeyed his Lord, so he got astray? ...' Then said our master, ar-Rida (a.s.): 'Woe unto you! O 'Ali! Have fear of Allah (in your heart) and do not ascribe indecencies to the prophets of Allah, and do not interpret by your own opinion the Book of Allah (Mighty and Great is He!) Verily Allah (Mighty and Great is He!) says: ...but none knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge (3:7). As for the words of Allah, and Adam disobeyed his Lord, so he got astray, (the fact is that) Allah (Mighty and Great is He!) had created Adam (to be) His proof in His earth and (to be) His vicegerent in His towns; He had not created him for the Garden; and the disobedience was (done) by Adam in the Garden, and not in the earth; (and it came to pass) so that the measures of the decree of Allah (Mighty and Great is He) might be fulfilled. So when he was sent down to the earth and was made (Allah's) proof and vicegerent, he was protected (i.e. became sinless), as Allah says: Surely Allah chose Adam and Nuh and the descendants of Ibrahim and the descendants of 'Imran above all the worlds. '" (3:33) (al-Amali, as-Saduq) I believe the Prophets (pbuh) were saved from sin by Allah (swt). Wasalam.
  10. Interesting, looking forward to reading more.
  11. Salam, You are jumping to conclusions. I assumed you believed in al-Lawhu 'l-Mahfuz. Which is that all our fates are written down. To quote; If you have this view of predestination then your argument against my hadith is invalid, as Adam (as) says he is not to be blamed, but if you have this second view (below) of predestination then your argument is in fact valid. Second view; What you are describing to me is the belief that humans have absolutely no control over their actions and everything has been dedicated by Allah (swt). Then yes, your argument would be valid and I would be incorrect. Please clarify on your view of predestination as all Muslims believe in it, but there are variations in this theological topic.
  12. No, that does not make sense. "yet you blame me for a thing which had already been written in my fate before my creation?" Given your idea of predestination and this hadith, it implies like Adam (as) we are not accountable for our sins. However, if we see this as a unique situation in which Adam (as) defends himself from Musa's (as) accusation that Adam (as) made a mistake, we see that it was not in his control from the start. This is emphasized when Adam (as) holds himself not accountable, by stating "yet you blame me." If we were to simply accept your conditions of predestination and the situation of Adam (as) then that would mean we all are not accountable for our sins, making this a unique situation for Adam (as) only. Your argument is not logically sound, as it does not equal up.
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