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Husayn

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  1. From the perspective of a Shi'i, it makes perfect sense to make a 'Eid of the event of Ghadir. This is because the Shi'a view the Seerah as a whole from the prism of the actions of 'Ali (ra) and any events associated with him. Ghadir really is the most pivotal event of the Seerah in the eyes of the Shi'a - infact, it would be fair to say that from a Shi'i perspective the entire Seerah was leading up to Ghadir, and the entire mission of the Prophet (saws) culminated in the proclamation of Ghadir. It would also be fair to say that the average Shi'i knows more about the life of 'Al
  2. Seems like some cropping has been done to the quote from "Manaqib Amir al-Mumineen" above. Here is a scan of the same book, edition and page: Author states: "Fabricated. It contains 'Amru bin Abi al-Miqdaab, Ibn Mu'een said: Not reliable or trusted. Ibn Hibban said: He ('Amru) narrates fabrications from strong narrators". Here is a link to the book online: https://ia802706.us.archive.org/33/items/WAQ62277/62277.pdf Scroll to page 122 and see the original page: So yes, someone
  3. Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik had hundreds of teachers between them. Which one exactly are you referring to?
  4. No, the nass for the Mahdi isn't very strong, but when put together with all the ahadith regarding ghayba, we can accept him as being a part of the end-times prophecies. His nass is quite vague, and this is why Allah (s.w.t.) will establish his rule with signs and miracles. Trying to stretch this to indicate some form of proof for the succession theory of the Twelver sect is definitely extremist. You need to reread the Seerah. The Arabs, especially Meccans, for the most part had no idea what Prophethood is. Yes, some more educated people knew vague details, but to claim that the Arabs w
  5. I am not an expert in rijaal - but I know that the narrations regarding the end of time as a whole are considered mutawaatir. That is the coming of 'Isa, Dajjal and al-Mahdi. The ahadith for the Mahdi alone are few and not enough to make them tawaatur. However taken as a whole, we can say that the coming of the Mahdi can be considered mutawaatir (if included in all the ahadith mentioning the end of times). That's fine, I will agree that part of the Mahdi's legitimacy comes from nass. Ofcourse, I disagree that the Twelver Imams have any nass in Sunni tradition. The mentioning of d
  6. And here we get to the crux of the issue. As Sunnis, we can say that our system has its faults, it is not perfect. But we can also say that we have achieved much good, and that our system caused the spread of Islam to million and billions, and that because of our power the enemies of Islam harassed the lands of the Muslims and inflicted them with calamities. Whereas as a Twelver what have I got? A perfect system... on paper. And what is ironic is that the first Twelver state based upon theology used basically a copy of the Sunni system (Wilayat Faqih/Shura).
  7. Akhi, if you think that is chaos and confusion, you should read this book: فرق الشيعة للنوبختي Firaq as-Shia by al Nawbakhti Arabic: http://www.scribd.com/doc/15244824/%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%82-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D9%84%D9%84%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%AA%D9%8A-%D9%88-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%85%D9%8A#scribd English: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=vadKWQplthUC&pg=PR3&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false Literally hundreds of years of chaos and confusion. If we Sunnis accept that there was "chaos and confusion" in the times of the Sah
  8. Thankfully, the conditions for kufr in the tradition of Ahlul Sunnah includes a vast grey area, and this is stated in this Q&A, specifically: فإن من أنكر المتواتر بعد العلم به من غير تأول، يكون كافراً He who negates what is mutawattir after learning of it unless due to interpretation, then he is a kaffir. Basically, only someone who accepts that something is mutawattir (i.e. Rasul Allah (saw) actually said something) and then rejects it would be considered a kaffir - this is the meaning of أنكر (negate). But what of the person who rejects that it is mutawattir, or who does not acce
  9. The initial argument from mina was that the Mahdi is not mentioned in the Qur'an yet every Muslim believes in him, implying that a matter of 'aqeeda was not included in the Qur'an. To this I say no - a matter of 'aqeeda is something mentioned in the Qur'an and which Rasul Allah (saw) expounded upon in detail. The Mahdi is a matter of ghayb for Ahlul Sunnah. We merely expect him to arrive somewhere near the end of time. We neither await his appearance nor prepare for it - it is just something that will happen as a sign of the hour. It is not a matter of 'aqeeda, the Mahdi is completely usel
  10. The coming of 'Isa (as) and al-Mahdi are matters of ghayb, not 'aqeeda. Regarding the Qur'an - yes, you can call this circular reasoning, but then you are degrading the Words of Allah (swt) down to the level of the books of ahadith. If you are willing to do this just to score some points, then that is your decision. The Prophet (saw) expounded on the fundamentals declared in the Qur'an, he did not introduce new 'aqaid not found in the Qur'an (this is the Sunni belief). The issue with Twelvers and their belief in 12 Imams is the fact that this entire concept is not found in the Qur'an, no
  11. I thought they preferred to oppress and kill them? Regarding Ummayad Caliphs - because al-Hassan (RA) and al-Husayn (RA) had big political influence and were loved by the masses. Regarding 'Abbasid Caliphs - they sought to legitimise their Khilafa by seeking allegiance from the descendants of 'Ali (RA), and this wasn't limited to the Twelver Imams, but all of 'Ali's (RA) descendants (don't forget that al-Hassan (RA) had many descendants, not just al-Husayn (RA), you always seem to forget this). It was a Banu 'Abbas vs Banu 'Ali thing. It is certainly not because they believed their were
  12. It is a fundamental concept for Twelvers, for Ahlul Sunnah it is a matter of ghayb.
  13. I find this reluctance to take up Farid's challenge very puzzling. Where did all the confidence go? We hear time and again how the beliefs of Twelvers are easily proven using Sunni books - and that Sunnis only reject them by weakening the narrations and making up excuses. So come on, show us where in the books of Ahlul Sunnah do you find the creed of Twelver Shiasm? Or did Tijani and Sharaf ad-Din waste their times writing their stories and publishing books of their debates? Where is all the confidence in Then I Was Guided, al-Murajaa'at, Peshawar Nights? Isn't it the whole point o
  14. There isn't a single fundamental concept that Sunnis need their ahadith for. They only need their ahadith to explain the details. Each and every single fundamental concept that Sunnis believe in is explicitly mentioned in the Qur'an. Whereas to believe in 12 Imams you need to accept the Twelver books, and to do this, you need to be a Twelver in essence. That is circular logic.
  15. When non-Muslims become Sunnis, it is due to the Qur'an. When non-Muslims become Shias, they start with the Qur'an, and then the details of the 12 Imams are explained to them later on. They do not come up with the idea of 12 Imams through the Qur'an alone. They need to either read Shia books, or have some knowledgeable Twelver explain the concept to them (using Shia books). Whereas the fundamental concept of Sunnis - Tawhid, Prophethood, Prayer, Zakaat, Hajj are all found in the Qur'an. They only need Sunni ahadith to explain the details, not to introduce the entire concept. So yes, beli
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