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  1. I am sunnio too and I don't believe that Shia are kafirs. I do think though that they're misled. I get upset with them when they curse Aysha (ra) and the sahabis....wouldn't u agree?

  2. Salaam-wa-Rahma Is there a book(s) in English (with authentic narrations) about the signs preceeding the appearance of Imam Mahdi. I'm Sunni but would like to read about this from the perspective of Shi'i scholars (and in a sincere way...not just to pick holes for the sake of sectarian polemic). Thanks in advance. PS - I found one online article on Al-Islam a while ago but was looking for something a bit more substantive like a book.
  3. Salaama I believe that in terms of mazhab, the Qadianis basically follow Hanafi fiqh.
  4. Salaams Yeah I'd heard about the French laying on scholarships for Chechen students. Kudos to the Frenchies (tres bien)! Cheers for the article link. Al-Muhajiroun = utter ****ers! Whenever I arranged talks on the situation in Chechnya back at Uni, those morons would turn up and try to hijack the whole event with their incessant sheep-like braying. My friend Colonel Umar Sougaipov (Maskhadov's emissary in London) almost beat the [Edited Out] out of them on one occasion...I really had to restrain him. Fortunately the campus security ejected those idiots just in time. I mean what can you say about Al-Munafiqoon that hasn't been said already? Prison is too good for them! Bakri is a mini-dajjal...Allah curse him! Yeah I've seen some of those sick videos too. I believe they were primarily the work of the Akhmadov brother's jamaat. Arbi Baraev and his jamaat were another bunch of hostage decapitators/mutilators with a penchant for filming their atrocities. What can I say? Totally barbaric, Khawarij beasts...may Allah punish them with a severe torment! They brought great shame upon the name of my nation. Fortunately (for the greater good of humankind), those two groups have been exterminated in their entirety by the Federals...bloody good riddance!
  5. Just to add. The Chechen people are tired of war and desire peace and economic development...a decent and normal life if you will (contrary to the wishes of many jihadis...both the real and arm-chair varieties). They're pretty much resigned to Russian rule. I just wish that Putin would clip the wings of that thug Ramzan Kadyrov. There are plenty of decent, humane and educated pro-Russian Chechens who could run the place instead of that animal Kadyrov and his brutal militia. Actually, Alu Alkhanov (a former police...or militsaya as it's called in Russia...General) the current President of the Chechen Republic isn't a bad man. He's certainly civilized and educated. Problem is he'll only ever be a figurehead President as long as Ramzan is around. The real power lies with Ramzan and his 'Kadyrovtsi'.
  6. Salaams Anti-Wahhabi Totally agree with all you say above. Especially about Putin. I have the same love-hate dichotomy going down with regards to Vladimir Vladimirovich. Yeah, I'm London based. We have quite a few Chechens here. Our biggest community in Western Europe is in Belgium though. I've heard that there is a fairly sizeable North Caucasian community in New Jersey. I believe the community was founded by emigres fleeing the Bolshevik Revolution (it's that old!).
  7. Oh I'm definitely a fan of Politkovskaya. I totally agree with your assessment of her. She was a genuine partizan of justice for ordinary Chechens and their suffering. I was very heart-broken the day I heard of her ruthless murder. Btw, she was assassinated after the attack on Nalchik. As for Basayev...you're not the first or last person to have this suspicion. Many, many Chechens and others have had these thoughts. I've certainly entertained them. You should get yourself a copy of Alexander Litvinenko's (the victim of the recent polonium poisoning scandal in London and a former FSB operative) Blowing Up Russia I'm going through it at the moment. It goes to the heart of some of these allegations that we're currently discussing.
  8. You know Anti-Wahhabi, I don't know if I necessarily agree that Reagan was responsible for the fall of the USSR back in the 80s and 90s. Sure, the arms-race that he initiated and the funding of the Afghan insurgents did have a role to play. I just wonder if the proposition is not a little over-blown? Chinese Premier Zhou En-Lai was asked in the 1970s as to his opinion on the effects of the French Revolution of 1789 on world history, he replied (wisely in my opinion...got to respect the wisdom of the Chinese!)..."Too early to tell." My own opinion of the Soviet Union, as well as that of my family and friends (although I'm not in a position to speak for every Chechen or former Soviet citizen btw), is that post-Stalin (1953 onwards) it wasn't too bad for the Chechens and all the Soviet peoples in general (certainly compared to Stalin's days). Sure there were problems. Curtailment of cultural, religious, political and economic freedoms. Arguably, however, it was a lot better than the messy break-up of the USSR and the ensuing anarchic conditions of the 1990s. I think the Soviet Union should have been reformed and kept in one piece. Gorbachev just went about it the wrong way. I feel that Deng Xiaoping's way would have been better.
  9. Salaam wa rahma Like I said before, I'm not aware of any Chechens fighting alongside the Talebs. It is true though that the former separatist regime had diplomatic ties (of sorts) with Mullah Omar's regime. I believe that it was ex-President Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev (he became President of the Chechen Republic Ichkeria...that's the official name of the separatist Chechen regime...after the assassination of General Dudaev and held that post until the election of Aslan Maskhadov in 1997) who initiated this around about 1998. The Maskhadov govt. was appalled by this (they wanted UN recognition not recognition from a fanatical militia which itself had no UN recognition). Yanadarbiyev, who was always close to the Salafi elements of the Chechen resistance, initiated these contacts of his own accord. As far as these 'diplomatic relations' are concerned it was all just symbolic (although the symbolism was bad in my opinion and certainly in the opinion of Maskhadov's people). The 'embassy' itself was just the house where Yandarbiyev stayed in Kabul as a guest of Mullah Omar. I don't think that it had any sort of regular staffing. Certainly, when Yandarbiyev pulled this stunt he no longer held any official post within the Chechen govt. In fact, during the Chechen Presidential elections of 1997 following on from the withdrawl of Russian forces (which the Organization for Security & Cooperation in Europe monitored and pronounced free and fair), hard-core militants like Basayev and Yandarbiyev were trounced by a large margin by the moderate Maskhadov. These elections clearly showed that the Chechen people were in no mood for a leader spewing Salafi jihadi rhetoric. We wanted to rebuild our shattered republic but our hopes were in turn shattered by well-armed Wahhabi thugs. Once you're a committed dog-of-war you have no time for peace, it's much more boring to put down your AK-47 and get an honest job (this was the attitude of members of these Wahhabi jamaats). After the elections, Yandarbiyev acted as a self-appointed Chechen emissary to the Taleban, Jamaat-Islami and Jamiat-Ulema in Pakistan and various Wahhabi organizations throughout Saudi Arabia and the Gulf. He also lent his support to the domestic alliance of Wahhabi warlords opposing Aslan Maskhadov's rule. Look, Taleban support for the Chechens was pretty much limited to the rhetorical level. It was always less of a case of Chechens training in Afghanistan and then going back to Chechnya than of Arab militants who had seen action in Afghanistan going to Chechnya (people like Khattab, Abu Walid and Abu Hafs). However, I do know that Shamil Basayev and some of his people had received training in Afghanistan during the early 1990s (prior to the formation of the Taleban) when Burhanuddin Rabbani (the formal leader of the Northern Alliance) was President. Also don't forget that it was Burhanuddin Rabbani's government that invited Usama bin Laden into Afghanistan some time in the mid 1990s (again pre-Taleban). Basically, it is always quite possible that some (literally no more than a handful of) Chechens fought with the Taleban but I'm sceptical of this based on the available evidence. Certainly there weren't battalions or squadrons of them out there (there'd at least be ONE verifiable prisoner surely?) contrary to Russian government and Northern Alliance sources. I've read somewhere that when John Walker Lindh (remember the famous American Taleb?) was captured by Rashid Dostum's forces, he initially claimed to be Chechen.
  10. Salaams First off, there is no substantiated or even credible evidence of Chechens fighting for the Talebs. There has NEVER been a single Chechen prisoner held in Guantanamo Bay. Here's some evidence I'd like to cite for my position: CHECHENS FIGHTING WITH THE TALIBAN: FACT OR PROPAGANDA? NO CHECHENS SAID TO BE FIGHTING WITH TALIBAN. RUSSIANS WITH THE TALIBAN? NOT A SINGLE CHECHEN DISCOVERED. If someone were to show me some credible evidence (as opposed to either Russian, American, Pakistani or Northern Alliance/Hamid Karzai government propaganda) of Chechens fighting on the side of the Taleban, then I condemn these people 100%. No ifs or buts. I'd say to those Chechens that they have no business involving themselves in an intra-Afghan, fratricidal civil war. At the end of the day, the Taleban was a Pashtun group fighting Tajiks and Hazaras...that's ethnic civil war in my book. Plus their interpretation of Islam was exceptionally harsh (to say the least). I hope I've made my views clear enough.
  11. I'm not wasting my time arguing with someone whose only source of information about Chechnya comes from a guy sitting in sunny Qatar (Movladi Udugov runs Kavkazcenter from there). Do you even know who Udugov is? Plus you keep showing the same Kavkazcenter link over and over. In English that's called a one-trick pony. Try something different for variety's sake. You don't know anything about Chechnya apart from Basayev, Abu Hafs, Abu Walid and Khattab. I'm glad you're one of the few Muslims with the correct understanding of Allah's deen. Good for you. Me Secularist? My oh my so you have ilm-ul-ghayb as well? Can you actually read? First read EVERYTHING I've written on this thread. Pay particular attention to where I say things like I don't support Ramzan Kadyrov. I'm not an apologist for Russian atrocities. I don't wear Putin t-shirts and I don't wear Basayev t-shirts either. I was a Maskhadov supporter. I worked for Maskhadov's representatives as an interpreter (for a brief while...still I'm quite sure I did more for the cause than you will ever do). You haven't even talked to anyone who's actually fought against the Russian Army in Chechnya so what do you know? You know nothing. Arm-chair jihadis who don't know jack about the internal situation in Chechnya should mind their own business. People like Basayev, Baraev, Khattab helped destroy our independence and the authority of President Maskhadov (rahimullah). Your slogans are boring and empty. Chechen people are tired of war. There's a time for war and a time for peace...now it's time for peace. We don't have that many Chechens left. We've lost approximately ten percent of our total population during the last decade...out of a total population of one million or so...but 'brave' arm-chair, shawarma eating, shai-sipping jihadis like you are happy to fight until the last drop of Chechen blood. How noble of you! Do you actually know any Chechens? Have you been there in the last year (or ever for that matter)? I don't think so. You sit and talk. Just keep drinking shai and eating hummus...and talking bravely about jihad from behind your computer screen. Anyway, most people in Chechnya are Sufis. Do you think Sufis are on shirk? If your answer is yes, then why should you care whether us 'mushrikeen' live or die? Ho vokhk gaz vu...as we say back home. My people aren't playthings in your wet-dream of a gore-fest featuring jihadis versus infidels. Just a final questions for you ya Abu Jihad: Do you agree that what happened at Beslan was halaal? Like is it jihad to take children hostage? Bring some sahih daleel. Adikel gaz!
  12. Salaam Marshal! Listen bro I'm trying to PM you but seem to be having the same problem...namely my pm facility isn't working. Will try again.
  13. Just to say, Imam Shamil was a scholar and warrior who waged a sincere jihad against Tsarist oppression/colonial conquest. He was not a murderer and jahil (as far as Islamic scholarship goes) like Shamil Basaev. Imam Shamil waged war according to the principles of the Prophetic Sunna. Imam Shamil did not instigate attacks against Theatres or Schools. In short, he did not murder innocent civilians. PS - Having re-read the whole of this thread I just wanted to ask Bro Al Awhad...Vi govorite po Russkomu?
  14. Salaams No they aren't. Let me clarify though. The Sufi brotherhoods and their Shuyukh (eg Sheikh Mansur in the late 18th century, Imam Shamil during the mid-19th century and Sheikh Uzun Haji during the period of the Bolshevik Revolution and Russian Civil War) traditionally led the resistance to either Tsarist or Bolshevik rule. Now during the period 1991-94 (until the outbreak of the first Russo-Chechen conflict of the 1990s) the Sufi brotherhoods (particularly the Qadiris) were in full support of General Dudaev's national revolution. When the Federal government led by Yeltsin attacked Grozny in late 1994 and up until the signing of the Khasav-Yurt Peace Accord of 1996 (brokered by Colonel Aslan Maskhadov for the Chechen side and General Alexander Lebed for the Federal side), generally speaking the Brotherhoods were in favour of the separatists (as was I in all honesty). The Russo-Chechen War of 1994-96 was a genuine national liberation war in the sense that the bulk of Chechen society desired national independence from Russia. However, in the period between 1996 (when Russian forces withdrew) and 1999 (when they re-invaded), certain negative changes (which had begun taking place around 1995 with the arrival of Arab volunteers from the Gulf and Afghanistan...the so-called Arab Afghans) started to take place in Chechen society. Firstly, there was a massive proliferation of armed groups called jamaats. Some jamaats were made up of native Chechens and others were made up of a mixture of Muslim volunteers from the surrounding North Caucasian republics as well as from the Middle East. These jamaats were military formations that also adhered to militant Salafi-Jihadi ideology. Basaev was of course the most famous of these jamaat leaders. You may also have heard of a Saudi (though some say he was Jordanian...I'm still not too sure to be honest) called Khattab (who was a close ally of Basaev). Basically, these jamaats began a reign of anarchy throughout the republic. Many started armed fights with the Sufis and other traditional Chechens, attacking them for their practices which they labelled as (you've guessed it) bida and shirk. Other jamaats engaged in kidnapping (for money) and extortion both in Chechnya and the neighbouring republics. Other jamaat units would attack Russian border forces just because they were spoiling for a fight (even though our government had signed a peace treaty with Moscow...this obviously violated the terms of that treaty but the central govt. was simply outgunned and didn't have the power to bring these fanatics to heel). There was a famous case of some British and New Zealand telecoms engineers (contracted by the Maskhadov government to rebuild Chechnya's ravaged telecommunications network) beheaded in 1998 after being held hostage by a jamaat under the command of a notorious Wahabite and gangster called Arbi Baraev. The various jamaats also coordinated their actions to try to overthrow and assassinate President Aslan Maskhadov (who was elected in 1997 and was a traditional Chechen Sufi). In 1998, in Chechnya's second largest city of Gudermes there was a massive fight between armed follwers of the Sufi brotherhoods and the Wahabite jamaats. The jamaats were kicked out of Gudermes. Basically, Chechnya was already on the brink of civil war between these two factions. I swear though, not just because my loyalties are with the Sufis, that the Wahabites started the whole round of anarachy and in-fighting. They wouldn't obey the orders of Aslan Maskhadov's govt. to disarm. Frankly, they were also better armed and had greater financial resources (thanks to their backers in the Gulf) than Aslan's govt. In summer 1999, Basaev and Khattab launched an armed incursion to support a Wahabite rebellion in neighbouring Dagestan (specifically the Botlikh rayon/region). Most Chechens (whose loyalties by and large lay with the tarikats) were incensed by this armed inteference in the affairs of a neighbouring (and brotherly) republic. The Russian Army re-invaded. The Sufi brotherhoods, tired of the anarchy and near civil war plaguing Chechnya for that last three years, decided that they would not oppose the Russian Army militarily. A few even decided that the Russians were the only hope of law and order and actually decided to back the Russians (like Akhmad Kadyrov, the former Mufti appointed by Maskhadov). The rest is history (very bloody and bitter history). I've condensed a lot of the info about those years (it would take forever to write about all the details). I just wanted to give you the story as regards to the role of the Tarikats. Of course there is more to the whole sordid saga, such as the role of rogue elements within the various Russian intelligence services and Boris Berezovsky. However, the main thrust of my argument is that ultimately, the second Russo-Chechen war was re-ignited by the foolish, bloodthirsty and arrogant actions of the Chechen Salafi Jamaats. Those people and their financial backers are (in my opinion) most responsible for the continuation of the suffering of my dear people. If you'd like me to clarify any points I've made please feel free to ask. I'd suggest the following page as being useful for an understanding of the sources of the current conflict in Chechnya http://www.chechnyaadvocacy.org/conflict.html Wasalaam PS - For anyone who follows the conflict in Chechnya today, I just wanted to say that whilst I loathe the Wahabites with all my heart, I am absolutely not a supporter of that thug Ramzan Kadyrov. Kadyrovsti tozhe horoshiye banditi!
  15. Salaams to all Speaking as a Chechen (I'm Sunni and am a mureed of the Naqshabandi-Haqqani Tarikat...although I'm a poor quality mureed), please, please, please don't quote from Kavkazcenter. This is a rabid Wahabist web-site run by a former gangster/mafiosi (Movladi Udugov) who grew a beard sometime in the mid-90s and became an exponent of the most vile salafi jihadi ideology. Jihadi ideologues like Movladi Udugov have brought little to my beloved homeland except for unnecessary destruction, killing and a reputation for terrorism (e.g. the sick massacre of children at Beslan). Kavkazcenter is funded by wealthy Gulf based salafi-jihadi sympathisers. These people couldn't find any money to invest in the infrastructure of our blighted republic following on from the Khasav-Yurt agreement of 1996, however they found money to throw at various criminal Wahabi jamaats engaged in terrorism against the elected government and the kidnapping of anyone who had any money (Muslim or non-Muslim, Chechen or non-Chechen). Oh I forgot to add that many of their kidnap victims were turned into slave-labourers...that is when they weren't kept in tiny, filthy metal cages underground (which we call zindans). This was the experience of one my wealthy uncles. During the war of 1994-96 my uncle Anzor was a non-combatant. However, he would drive round in his 4x4 personally delivering food and medicines to devastated villages. After the war, in 1997, he was kidnapped by members of the Arbi Baraev (a notorious Wahabi warlord) jamaat and kept in an underground pit. His captors demanded something ridiculous like a million US Dollars for his release. He was kept in this pit for approximately half a year whilst his relatives tried to sell off all their assets in order to pay the ransom demand. He actually asked his captors..."Why are you doing this to me? I helped our poor people during the war. What have I done wrong?" The Wahabites told him..."You helped them and now it's time to help us!" Allah curse those SOBs. May they rot in Hell! Udugov (the man behind Kavakazcenter) is a shaytaan. A loud mouth sitting in Qatar calling for a totally unnecessary jihad against Russia. Russia isn't perfect. I'm not even going to argue in defence of the many, many problems and injustices that Russia has both on a state and social level. However, freedom of religion does exist. You want to practice Islam...fine go ahead. You want to maintain your ethnic (as in non-Russian) culture and language...you can. Suspicion of Islam in Russia actually occurred in part because of Chechen separatism and it being hijacked by militant salafism. We Chechens are traditional Sunni Muslims whose culture is very, very heavily influenced by Sufi teachings (mainly through the Qadiri and Naqshabandi tarikats). Wahabism is an alien import that came to us some time in the mid-90s...with devastating consequences for our society (especially the young). Alhamdulillah this trend is now being reversed. Frankly, I consider Twelver Shiism much closer to the traditional Islam practiced in Chechnya. I'm a Sunni Sufi but would much rather have Shi'i ideas spread in my republic than Wahabism. I'm a great admirer of the Ithna-Ashari school, it's traditions and scholarship (though I remain a Sunni Sufi). Mulla Sadra's philosophical work is aweswome (difficult for a simple soul like myself to penetrate...though I try). I'm also rather partial to the works of Murtada Mutahari. Ayatollah Khomeini's Irfani writings are very nice too. Btw, Chechens are not a Turkic people. We are a Caucasian people. Our language, along with Ingush, various Dagestani languages, Circassian (which has sub-units) and Georgian (this has sub-units too) are part of (according to some scholars) the Ibero-Caucasian language group. If you'd like to learn more about the history and culture of my republic this is a very good resource (although it is politically biased towards the pro-Russian Chechen position) http://www.chechnyafree.ru/index.php?lng=eng Does anyone here know of any Chechen Shias? I'd be interested to know if anyone has any access to any decent and substantive info on Chechens converting to Shiism. Apart from a few articles (like the one posted at the beginning of this thread), I can't find too much on the internet. Is there a Chechen diaspora of any significance in Iran for example? I know we have a fairly substantial diaspora in Turkey, Jordan and Syria and I've heard that there are two villages in Iraq (any Iraqis who might know more about this?) with some of my people. Wasalaam and kind regards
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