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SoRoUsH reacted to Qa'im in The Divine Will
There are indeed different narrations on "the first creation". Remember that mashi'a is both fi`l and infi`al. When one says mashi'a, they are just using a substantive formulation to make a verb into a noun. Otherwise, the mashi'a is just Allah's act of willing (sha'a), a verb, and that action is sempiternal. So thus, narrations that say that the Muhammadan Light is the first creation mean that it is the first creation after the mashi'a. The mashi'a is the process that births every thing in the creation.
Is the mashi'a the same thing as the Muhammadan Light? The Muhammadan Light is the place (mahal) of the mashi'a. Imam `Ali (as) says in khutbat al-bayan, هو المكون ونحن المكان. He does not say نحن التكوين. So the answer is that the two are very closely related, like a glowing oil almost touched by fire but not quite (24:35).
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SoRoUsH got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in The Four Elements
Good post brother.
It is only through the lens of the four elements that Shaytan's proclamation in the primordial paradise makes sense. Fire or heat could be seen as superior to earth, since heat is the cause of all motions, whereas earth, with its dryness and coldness, isn't. Nature functions through heat.
This is what Averroes says, in agreement with Aristotle:
"Nature does not use cold in its capacity of cold for any of [its] activities, unless accidentally and in the second intention, namely to balance and proportionate the innate heat which is particular to this activity of nature. For cold is such that it moderates and purifies (refines) the activity of the heat, while heat is such that it [affects] all the senses and confuses (impairs) them.”*
* Averroes, De Animalibus, Book twelve (translation). Available from:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326300125_Averroes_De_Animalibus_Book_twelve_translation
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SoRoUsH got a reaction from Bakir in The Four Elements
Good post brother.
It is only through the lens of the four elements that Shaytan's proclamation in the primordial paradise makes sense. Fire or heat could be seen as superior to earth, since heat is the cause of all motions, whereas earth, with its dryness and coldness, isn't. Nature functions through heat.
This is what Averroes says, in agreement with Aristotle:
"Nature does not use cold in its capacity of cold for any of [its] activities, unless accidentally and in the second intention, namely to balance and proportionate the innate heat which is particular to this activity of nature. For cold is such that it moderates and purifies (refines) the activity of the heat, while heat is such that it [affects] all the senses and confuses (impairs) them.”*
* Averroes, De Animalibus, Book twelve (translation). Available from:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326300125_Averroes_De_Animalibus_Book_twelve_translation
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SoRoUsH reacted to mesbah in Love and Suffering
One of the old Iranian poems about the tragedy of Karbala starts with this line:
این شکار دام هر صیاد نیست
عشقبازی کار هر شیاد نیست
"this is not a prey for any random hunter;
love is not the affair of charlatans"