Muhammed Ali

Here is a refutation of Malone's interview, by a molecular biologist: Malone also posted this absurd stat on twitter which he later removed. Wanting to kill people using a vaccine would be inefficient because it would miss the conspiracy theorists. Surely they would want to kill them most of all? Maybe the real conspiracy is to get all the sheep vaccinated and then set free a more potent virus to kill the theorists? Then the sheep will do the work of their masters. And there are obvious reasons why the rate of childbirth is falling.

He is not anti-vaccine: https://en-gb.facebook.com/imamsonline/videos/shaykh-hamza-yusuf-on-vaccine-use-to-treat-diseases/315849962897836/ He even says that according to some scholars, it can in certain circumstances be allowed for rulers to mandate them if it is for the greater good. What I understood from your video was the need to verify things and not take the word of big pharma without scrutiny. Also, he seems to be against instances of unnecessary vaccination.

I haven't watched it because it's rather long. Can you elaborate on his views? Does he say animals inherit the sins of a man? How does he differentiate between inflicting suffering on animals and suffering on humans. If the former is justified than why not the latter? I am not vegan or vegetarian at all but I do know of a few shia who refrain from animal products because of the suffering caused by industrial farming. Could they argue that the consumption of such products encourages animal suffering? We try to boycott goods procured from human suffering so what makes animal produce from different? Perhaps the least that we could do is speak out against it and not pretend that it isn't a problem. Here is a Muslim farmer who demonstrates how animals should be treated when being reared for food. In other videos he shows how he slaughters the animals and you can see how kind he is to them.

You are supposed to make efforts to stop disease. That is what your creator wants. If you really think the vaccine is more dangerous than a man-made or natural virus, you need to find an alternative.

What our conspiracy theorist friends may not know is that some viruses can change DNA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrovirus Some scientists think that COVID-19 could change DNA too: https://www.science.org/content/article/further-evidence-offered-claim-genes-pandemic-coronavirus-can-integrate-human-dna For these conspiracy theorists there is no escape; either the man made vaccine will get them or the man made coronavirus.

https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199556182.001.0001/acprof-9780199556182 https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/soul-hypothesis-9781441152244 And more than that.

Did they really change or did circumstances reveal their true weaknesses and flaws? Perhaps it is our criteria for making judgments that needs to be worked on? And maybe we have negative bias. I.e. we are focusing on the few that did disappoint instead of the many that don't change? I have rarely had to change my mind about a person that I regarded highly - except when I was much younger. I realized that we should not simply think well of a person that is religious, intelligent, knowledgeable, working in charity, active in the community etc. Humans have innate desires for God and thus even the corrupt would be religious. Others would do it for tribal reasons etc. A corrupt person is usually a mixture of good and bad, and not just a monolith of bad traits. So if we see a person doing charity work, it shouldn't make us think well of them if we see some troubling traits too. These are what people call red flags. Often such bad traits are the tip of the iceberg. What you see in open is worse in private (the opposite is also true for very good people that hide their deeds). In my humble opinion the most important traits we could look for in determining character are: Akhlaq (this doesn't mean simply being a 'nice' or polite person - it is an assessment of the nature of the person), conscientiousness, wisdom, being apologetic and open to changing their mind on even their strongly held views. When judging religiousness we should focus on the spiritual elements more than the rituals. And Allah knows better. Sorry for the careless wording in the post.

You rule out all possibility that an Imam {a} didn't narrate a 'sahih' hadith. How can you be sure that absolutely nothing went wrong in the transmission?

You give too much credence to solitary narrations. It's like gambling. I.e. too much at risk with evidence isn't strong enough. Within your framework (the science of ahadith etc) something is 'sahih' but what if the framework has flaws? And what about noise from randomness (even if the framework was perfect)? I am not referring to that hadith in specific, but your general approach.

This is why religions can be so dangerous. They make people do absurd things. Child sacrifice etc. I might be misunderstood.

Give me a couple of days please. I am sorry, I am very bad at responding to posts.

To be clear, I am not a liberal. If the point of having guns is to defend against a government then surely as a government becomes more powerful, the citizens need to own more powerful weapons to counter them. As another poster said, the citizens need to be as powerful as a government soldier. However if that were to happen you would have major problems in society. My point about civil war is also serious. You are speaking about a hypothetical tail event, e.g. attack from a government; however civil war is also a tail event. If guns supposedly will aid you with the former, they will destroy your society in the latter. The US is creeping towards it.

To clarify: It is not the view I hold. If we rely upon political leaders we will always be in a bad state. We have to improve (including empowerment) ourselves and also exert political pressure. The former should have priority over the latter.

Indeed it has been (given other compounding circumstances), but it doesn't take away from the fact that it has revealed how poor some people's decision making has been.