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In the Name of God بسم الله


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  1. There are in fact recent Imamic phenomena in Christian Protestantism. Two examples are found in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and a Seventh-day Church of God group. The organisation by a council of twelve reveals an awareness, however dim, of Biblical Imamic principles. Sadly, the imposition of such an organisation does not guarantee divine authority. It merely imitates it. We must find the true continuity of Biblical Imamic authority within a few centuries after Jesus. A gap of nearly two thousand years is not acceptable. Muhammad appeared as a prophet of God at the right time. As did all prophets, he condemned idolatry and polytheism. His mission in terms of the Imamate was timely. First of all, he warned the Jews for their rejection of the claims of Jesus. He condemned them for rejecting the Imamate. Secondly, and this was the most timely of all, he attacked the Christian corruption of the Imamate. Although the Imamate was already misunderstood by many Christians in the first century, the replacement of the Imamate by the doctrine of the trinity and Episcopal authority did not become complete until shortly before the coming of Muhammad. Muhammad condemned the Christians' paradoxical rejection of Jesus' Imamic role and their raising him to the status of God.
  2. Quote:Truthseeker asked:Who can claim to know Jesus better than the people who physically touched Him, spoke with him one on one, and were eyewitnesses to all He said and did? Im going to give examples:First of all let us see what he himself said about him,when the samarians and many more belived in him he went out from there into his city galilee :John4:44For Jesus himself testified that a prophet has no honor in his own country.
  3. The Islamic principle of divine guidance appears in detail in Tabataba'i 123ff. Ali (1988:84a) defines it briefly. "The khilafat-e-Ilahia was the apostleship and after the conclusion of the apostleship with the Holy Prophet Muhammad, it was conveyed to Imamate, the divinely inspired heavenly guidance through the godly ones purified by God Himself, who were born pure, who lived pure and who surrendered them­selves in the way of the Lord in all purity, which historic fact is unanimously acknowledged by the Muslim world as a whole. Islam demands faith in these Holy Imams as in the apostleship of God, as the all-Truthful, holy and infallible guides divinely commissioned for the preservation of verbal form and the true meanings, both external and internal, of the Holy Qur'an, the final Word of God, as its authentic custodians and the divinely inspired inter­preters and the correct models of godly life on earth to be copied by their devotees. The series of Imamate starts with All ibne Abi Taleb and ends with Mu­hammad ibnul Hasan Al-Mahdi, the last and living Imam of the Age." The salient features of the Imamate as conceived in Islam are therefore that it is a necessary continuation of revelation implied in the institution of prophets. Its representatives are divinely appointed through revelation to their successors. The Imams are pure and infallible. They are custodians and interpreters of the prophetic revelation. They are models of godly life to be copied. They appear in a series of twelve, and there is always a living one, even if he is in a state of occultation.
  4. A good example of the principle of divine guidance is in Jesus' judgement of the adulteress in John 8:1-11. Accord­ing to the literal interpretation of the law, she should have been stoned to death. But the divine guide knew the situation. He was able to apply the law both justly and mercifully. He said, `He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.' He neither abandoned the law, nor made an unjust verdict.
  5. Prophets can tell us what to do, but may not be able to make us understand in practice how to do it. They can call us away from sin and rebellion against God, but they cannot keep us from falling into formalism and hypocrisy. Humanity needs something more than the revelation brought to the prophets at the hand of angels and inscribed in holy books. We need implementation. In order to do something properly, you need first verbal instructions (the prophets) and then a live demonstration (divine guidance). What God reveals in words by the prophets He reveals in action, in flesh and blood, by the divine guides.
  6. A Bedouin approached Imam Ali (as) in the Battle of Camel and asked if he asserted that God was one. In answer, Imam Ali (as) said: To say that God is one has four meanings; Two of these meanings are false and two correct. As for the two incorrect meanings, one is that one should say 'God is one' and be thinking of number and counting. This meaning is false because that which has no second cannot enter into the category of number. Do you not see that those who said that God is the third of trinity [i.e, the Christians] fell into infidelity? Another meaning is to say that so and so is one of this people, namely as a species of this genus or a member of this species. This meaning is also not correct when applied to God, for it implies likening something to God and God is above all likeness. As for the two meanings that are correct when applied to God, one is that it should be said that God is one in the sense that there is no likeness unto Him among things. God possesses such uniqueness. And one is to say that God is one on the sense that there is no multiplicity or division conceiveable in Him, neither outwardly nor in the mind nor in the imagination. God possesses such unity. Also Imam Ali (as) said: To know God is to know His Oneness. This means that to prove that the Being of God is unlimited and infinite suffices to prove His Oneness, for to conceive a second for the Infinite is impossible.
  7. Quote:Who can claim to know Jesus better than the people who physically touched Him, spoke with him one on one, and were eyewitnesses to all He said and did? Reply:yes but he also said:11: No one knows the Son, except the Father; neither does anyone know the Father, except the Son, and he to whom the Son desires to reveal him. That is also remind me ,when the prophet said to Ali,No one knows you except Allah and me.
  8. I would like to start this small topic with the woman who knew Jesus through little conversation:JOHN19 The woman said to him, "Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet.
  9. YHWH_is_God,I would like to ask you if you confess that Joseph Smith or Ellin White were prophets?
  10. Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth, desires peace and consolation. Dearly beloved, the great and wonderful God has during these past days visited us by His prophet Jesus Christ in great mercy of teaching and miracles, for which reason many, being deceived of Satan, under pretence of piety, are preaching most impious doctrine, calling Jesus son of God, repudiating the circumcision ordained of God for ever, and permitting every unclean meat: among whom also Paul has been deceived, whereof I speak not without grief. It is because of this that I am writing that truth which I have seen and heard, in the discourse that I have had with Jesus, in order that you may be saved, and not be deceived of Satan and perish in the judgment of God. Therefore, beware of every one that preaches new doctrine to you contrary to that which I write, that you may be saved eternally. The great God be with you and guard you from Satan and from every evil. Amen.
  11. Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon 5:16. Haggai 2:7-9 And I will shake all nations, and the Himada of all the nations will come; and I will fill this house with glory, says the Lord of hosts. Mine is the silver, mine is the gold, says the Lord of hosts, the glory of my last house shall be greater than that of the first one, says the Lord of hosts; and in this place I will give Shalom, says the Lord of Hosts. The Hebrew words Mahmad, Mahamod, Himdah, and Hemed appearing in the Old Testament and the Arabic words Muhammad and Ahmad are all derived from the same root "H, M and D," and refer to the same general meaning. These Hebrew words convey qualities as well as the person depending on the phrase used in the Old Testament. The Hebrew word Shalom and the Arabic word Salam have the same meaning - peace. They are derived from the root alphabets "S, L and M." Islam is also derived from the same root alphabets and means the path of peace.
  12. "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (From the NIV Bible, John 14:6)" Peace be up on you Jesus and Muhammad and his household.Jesus means,It is not enough to believe in God,law and Prophets because the young man still lacked something.Then Jesus said to him Go deliver your money to the poor people ,then come and follow me.To accept the prophet is very important wa shukran.
  13. You did not understand what I said.I said the old and new testament are corrupted scriptures by the ancient priests and the one which is closer to logic and truth is Gospel of barnabas.If you do not believe me then try to interpret the two verses as follows:1 Chronicles 21:1And again the anger of the lord was kindled against israel,and he moved David against them to say go,number israel.1 Samuel 24-1`And Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David to number Israel.I want you to tell me exactly who moved David to number Israel,The lord or Satan.Im quite sure this was an example that the bible is corrupted .Who lives in house of glass shall not threw others by stones.
  14. Salam, Actually,I do not believe that Gospel of Barnabas is the right one but,it is more logical and very close to the truth more than the current fourth Gospels.When we offer an evidance belongs to prophecy of muhammad from the bible,you dont believe and another evidance from Gospel of barnabas,you also do not believe.How can we debate then!
  15. Assalam 3aleikum, The unity of God is hardly a doctrine which can change from one revelation to another. If the early writings uphold it, the latter ones must uphold it too, or else discredit themselves. However, the Apostle Paul is a champion of the unity of God as well. 1 Corinthians 8:6. `But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things.' Galatians 3:20. `God is one.' Ephesians 4:4-6. `There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.' 1 Timothy 2:5, `There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.' From these texts we see that Paul, as must be expected with his Biblical faith, recognises the absolute unity of God. His expressions leave no room for a trinity.
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