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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Art, innovation and religion
Great art is merely an abstract representation of a greater truth. Art is something necessary and valuable in society, and unfortunately something that is thought of as a negative by many muslims.
As there are limits on many activities, there are limits to art. When art crosses the line from being a beautiful, productive thing in society to being an ugly, non productive or counter productive thing in society is when it incites people toward haram.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Haji 2003 in Art, innovation and religion
Great art is merely an abstract representation of a greater truth. Art is something necessary and valuable in society, and unfortunately something that is thought of as a negative by many muslims.
As there are limits on many activities, there are limits to art. When art crosses the line from being a beautiful, productive thing in society to being an ugly, non productive or counter productive thing in society is when it incites people toward haram.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Husayni in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Hameedeh in Islam and Feminism
The main problem I have with feminism is that it teaches women to expect 'bad things' from men and over generalizes male behaviour. To say that all men are x and all men do y is really a nonsensical statement just as it is to say that all women are x and all women do y.
The only thing all men have in common is the y chromosome and the male sex organs. Other than that, I don't know what you could really say about all men, or even all women.
I wouldn't say many muslim men think it is their right to abuse and emotionally control, some do that, for sure, but there are lots who don't. In my experience, and this is probably pretty common experience here (?) I have known men who fit that description. They were acquaintances, I didn't consider them friends since I wouldn't choose to have friends who engaged in that behaviour.
Of the more than 100 muslim men that I have known over the past 20 years since I accepted Islam and considered my friends, ones who practiced Islam, i.e. they did the salat, fasting, avoided alcohol, drugs, adultery, etc, I could count on one hand (and I wouldn't even need the whole hand) the ones who fit your description. This group includes Arabs, non Arabs, Paki, non Paki, etc.
And I have known many women in those 20 years who wore hijab and seemed to outwardly practice Islam yet they lied, stole, abused drugs, did fraud, had less than wholesome relationships with non mahram, falsely accused people, gossiped to the extent that it destroyed other muslims lives, families, careers, etc. Some even went to the FBI and other intelligence agencies in the US and lied about their neighbors as part of some vendetta.
Yet I think, and hope that this is not the norm and most muslim women are decent, honest, God fearing people who try their best to obey Allah(s.w.a) in what they know. Even if this is not the case, in reality, we should give our brothers and sisters the benefit of the doubt, as this is part of our religion, and to do otherwise would diminish our own religion so really we have no other choice.
And I have three sons, and I am teaching them to honor and respect women, so maybe I'm trying to win the argument by skewing the odds in the other direction, lol. We'll have to wait a few years, at least, to see if my teaching had any effect.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Ayuoobi in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi reacted to user5000 in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
I thought all muslims will (eventually) enter paradise....
I get really sad when I read things like that, I know we have to work hard in this world, stay away from the things prohibited by Allah,the most exalted. Pray, fast, give charity, carry out rightoues deeds..... but to not be admitted to paradise and rather hellfire, is the greatest loss one can have. Just thinking about it here on earth throws me into a slight depression, imagine on the day of judgement. My uncle who is quite religious, and spends much time around notable alims told me the other day "we just want to see Jannah, to be at the edge of it, we dont want the best". I couldn't make out what he was implying, and even that got me kinda sad. Why wouldn't one want to be in Jannah, could he have said it out of humbleness? Sarcasm?
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Al Hadi in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Irfani313 in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from enigma313 in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Gaius I. Caesar in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi reacted to Soldiers and Saffron in Sisters-Choose The God-Fearing Man
Also, if he does not try to manipulate your feelings by flirting with you on the first talk because he respects you more than you respect yourself, that does not mean hes autistic but that you need to stop watching hollywood junk.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from PureExistence1 in Islam and Feminism
The main problem I have with feminism is that it teaches women to expect 'bad things' from men and over generalizes male behaviour. To say that all men are x and all men do y is really a nonsensical statement just as it is to say that all women are x and all women do y.
The only thing all men have in common is the y chromosome and the male sex organs. Other than that, I don't know what you could really say about all men, or even all women.
I wouldn't say many muslim men think it is their right to abuse and emotionally control, some do that, for sure, but there are lots who don't. In my experience, and this is probably pretty common experience here (?) I have known men who fit that description. They were acquaintances, I didn't consider them friends since I wouldn't choose to have friends who engaged in that behaviour.
Of the more than 100 muslim men that I have known over the past 20 years since I accepted Islam and considered my friends, ones who practiced Islam, i.e. they did the salat, fasting, avoided alcohol, drugs, adultery, etc, I could count on one hand (and I wouldn't even need the whole hand) the ones who fit your description. This group includes Arabs, non Arabs, Paki, non Paki, etc.
And I have known many women in those 20 years who wore hijab and seemed to outwardly practice Islam yet they lied, stole, abused drugs, did fraud, had less than wholesome relationships with non mahram, falsely accused people, gossiped to the extent that it destroyed other muslims lives, families, careers, etc. Some even went to the FBI and other intelligence agencies in the US and lied about their neighbors as part of some vendetta.
Yet I think, and hope that this is not the norm and most muslim women are decent, honest, God fearing people who try their best to obey Allah(s.w.a) in what they know. Even if this is not the case, in reality, we should give our brothers and sisters the benefit of the doubt, as this is part of our religion, and to do otherwise would diminish our own religion so really we have no other choice.
And I have three sons, and I am teaching them to honor and respect women, so maybe I'm trying to win the argument by skewing the odds in the other direction, lol. We'll have to wait a few years, at least, to see if my teaching had any effect.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Gaius I. Caesar in Islam and Feminism
The main problem I have with feminism is that it teaches women to expect 'bad things' from men and over generalizes male behaviour. To say that all men are x and all men do y is really a nonsensical statement just as it is to say that all women are x and all women do y.
The only thing all men have in common is the y chromosome and the male sex organs. Other than that, I don't know what you could really say about all men, or even all women.
I wouldn't say many muslim men think it is their right to abuse and emotionally control, some do that, for sure, but there are lots who don't. In my experience, and this is probably pretty common experience here (?) I have known men who fit that description. They were acquaintances, I didn't consider them friends since I wouldn't choose to have friends who engaged in that behaviour.
Of the more than 100 muslim men that I have known over the past 20 years since I accepted Islam and considered my friends, ones who practiced Islam, i.e. they did the salat, fasting, avoided alcohol, drugs, adultery, etc, I could count on one hand (and I wouldn't even need the whole hand) the ones who fit your description. This group includes Arabs, non Arabs, Paki, non Paki, etc.
And I have known many women in those 20 years who wore hijab and seemed to outwardly practice Islam yet they lied, stole, abused drugs, did fraud, had less than wholesome relationships with non mahram, falsely accused people, gossiped to the extent that it destroyed other muslims lives, families, careers, etc. Some even went to the FBI and other intelligence agencies in the US and lied about their neighbors as part of some vendetta.
Yet I think, and hope that this is not the norm and most muslim women are decent, honest, God fearing people who try their best to obey Allah(s.w.a) in what they know. Even if this is not the case, in reality, we should give our brothers and sisters the benefit of the doubt, as this is part of our religion, and to do otherwise would diminish our own religion so really we have no other choice.
And I have three sons, and I am teaching them to honor and respect women, so maybe I'm trying to win the argument by skewing the odds in the other direction, lol. We'll have to wait a few years, at least, to see if my teaching had any effect.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Qa'im in Overcoming Destructive Desires
Unlike most here, I grew up and was confirmed in the Pauline Christian Church. I had many, many pastors as well as lay people tell me that lust, any lust, including between husband and wife was evil and was from Satan. That was my experience as well as the experience of many Christians, and some Ex members of the Pauline sect of Christianity, that I know. The quotes were simply resource material, but show where they got those ideas from. They didn't materialize out of thin air. Anyway, I am not going to debate because this was a very minor point in the topic in general and I don't want to take my own topic onto a different course.
You have your opinion I have mine. We both have facts. Let's leave it at that.
But it's ironic that you ignored the topic completely and instead chose to focus on one sentence.
(Sidenote. I use the words Pauline Christianity to refer to those who follow the sect made by Paul of Tarsus, which includes the idea of a triune god and 'divinity' of Jesus(peace be upon him. I do not consider myself an Ex-Christian, as I still strive to follow the authentic teachings of Jesus(peace be upon him) i.e. be Christ like (definition of Christian). I consider myself an ex follower of the Pauline sect of Christianity, In case anyone is curious)
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Gaius I. Caesar in Overcoming Destructive Desires
Unlike most here, I grew up and was confirmed in the Pauline Christian Church. I had many, many pastors as well as lay people tell me that lust, any lust, including between husband and wife was evil and was from Satan. That was my experience as well as the experience of many Christians, and some Ex members of the Pauline sect of Christianity, that I know. The quotes were simply resource material, but show where they got those ideas from. They didn't materialize out of thin air. Anyway, I am not going to debate because this was a very minor point in the topic in general and I don't want to take my own topic onto a different course.
You have your opinion I have mine. We both have facts. Let's leave it at that.
But it's ironic that you ignored the topic completely and instead chose to focus on one sentence.
(Sidenote. I use the words Pauline Christianity to refer to those who follow the sect made by Paul of Tarsus, which includes the idea of a triune god and 'divinity' of Jesus(peace be upon him. I do not consider myself an Ex-Christian, as I still strive to follow the authentic teachings of Jesus(peace be upon him) i.e. be Christ like (definition of Christian). I consider myself an ex follower of the Pauline sect of Christianity, In case anyone is curious)
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from baradar_jackson in Islam and Feminism
The main problem I have with feminism is that it teaches women to expect 'bad things' from men and over generalizes male behaviour. To say that all men are x and all men do y is really a nonsensical statement just as it is to say that all women are x and all women do y.
The only thing all men have in common is the y chromosome and the male sex organs. Other than that, I don't know what you could really say about all men, or even all women.
I wouldn't say many muslim men think it is their right to abuse and emotionally control, some do that, for sure, but there are lots who don't. In my experience, and this is probably pretty common experience here (?) I have known men who fit that description. They were acquaintances, I didn't consider them friends since I wouldn't choose to have friends who engaged in that behaviour.
Of the more than 100 muslim men that I have known over the past 20 years since I accepted Islam and considered my friends, ones who practiced Islam, i.e. they did the salat, fasting, avoided alcohol, drugs, adultery, etc, I could count on one hand (and I wouldn't even need the whole hand) the ones who fit your description. This group includes Arabs, non Arabs, Paki, non Paki, etc.
And I have known many women in those 20 years who wore hijab and seemed to outwardly practice Islam yet they lied, stole, abused drugs, did fraud, had less than wholesome relationships with non mahram, falsely accused people, gossiped to the extent that it destroyed other muslims lives, families, careers, etc. Some even went to the FBI and other intelligence agencies in the US and lied about their neighbors as part of some vendetta.
Yet I think, and hope that this is not the norm and most muslim women are decent, honest, God fearing people who try their best to obey Allah(s.w.a) in what they know. Even if this is not the case, in reality, we should give our brothers and sisters the benefit of the doubt, as this is part of our religion, and to do otherwise would diminish our own religion so really we have no other choice.
And I have three sons, and I am teaching them to honor and respect women, so maybe I'm trying to win the argument by skewing the odds in the other direction, lol. We'll have to wait a few years, at least, to see if my teaching had any effect.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Islandsandmirrors in Islam and Feminism
The main problem I have with feminism is that it teaches women to expect 'bad things' from men and over generalizes male behaviour. To say that all men are x and all men do y is really a nonsensical statement just as it is to say that all women are x and all women do y.
The only thing all men have in common is the y chromosome and the male sex organs. Other than that, I don't know what you could really say about all men, or even all women.
I wouldn't say many muslim men think it is their right to abuse and emotionally control, some do that, for sure, but there are lots who don't. In my experience, and this is probably pretty common experience here (?) I have known men who fit that description. They were acquaintances, I didn't consider them friends since I wouldn't choose to have friends who engaged in that behaviour.
Of the more than 100 muslim men that I have known over the past 20 years since I accepted Islam and considered my friends, ones who practiced Islam, i.e. they did the salat, fasting, avoided alcohol, drugs, adultery, etc, I could count on one hand (and I wouldn't even need the whole hand) the ones who fit your description. This group includes Arabs, non Arabs, Paki, non Paki, etc.
And I have known many women in those 20 years who wore hijab and seemed to outwardly practice Islam yet they lied, stole, abused drugs, did fraud, had less than wholesome relationships with non mahram, falsely accused people, gossiped to the extent that it destroyed other muslims lives, families, careers, etc. Some even went to the FBI and other intelligence agencies in the US and lied about their neighbors as part of some vendetta.
Yet I think, and hope that this is not the norm and most muslim women are decent, honest, God fearing people who try their best to obey Allah(s.w.a) in what they know. Even if this is not the case, in reality, we should give our brothers and sisters the benefit of the doubt, as this is part of our religion, and to do otherwise would diminish our own religion so really we have no other choice.
And I have three sons, and I am teaching them to honor and respect women, so maybe I'm trying to win the argument by skewing the odds in the other direction, lol. We'll have to wait a few years, at least, to see if my teaching had any effect.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Qa'im in Islam and Feminism
The main problem I have with feminism is that it teaches women to expect 'bad things' from men and over generalizes male behaviour. To say that all men are x and all men do y is really a nonsensical statement just as it is to say that all women are x and all women do y.
The only thing all men have in common is the y chromosome and the male sex organs. Other than that, I don't know what you could really say about all men, or even all women.
I wouldn't say many muslim men think it is their right to abuse and emotionally control, some do that, for sure, but there are lots who don't. In my experience, and this is probably pretty common experience here (?) I have known men who fit that description. They were acquaintances, I didn't consider them friends since I wouldn't choose to have friends who engaged in that behaviour.
Of the more than 100 muslim men that I have known over the past 20 years since I accepted Islam and considered my friends, ones who practiced Islam, i.e. they did the salat, fasting, avoided alcohol, drugs, adultery, etc, I could count on one hand (and I wouldn't even need the whole hand) the ones who fit your description. This group includes Arabs, non Arabs, Paki, non Paki, etc.
And I have known many women in those 20 years who wore hijab and seemed to outwardly practice Islam yet they lied, stole, abused drugs, did fraud, had less than wholesome relationships with non mahram, falsely accused people, gossiped to the extent that it destroyed other muslims lives, families, careers, etc. Some even went to the FBI and other intelligence agencies in the US and lied about their neighbors as part of some vendetta.
Yet I think, and hope that this is not the norm and most muslim women are decent, honest, God fearing people who try their best to obey Allah(s.w.a) in what they know. Even if this is not the case, in reality, we should give our brothers and sisters the benefit of the doubt, as this is part of our religion, and to do otherwise would diminish our own religion so really we have no other choice.
And I have three sons, and I am teaching them to honor and respect women, so maybe I'm trying to win the argument by skewing the odds in the other direction, lol. We'll have to wait a few years, at least, to see if my teaching had any effect.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Miss Wonderful in Time Concepts in the Qur’an
Dr. Pakatchi mentions this verse in his talk near the end just to argue that this verse cannot even be the subject of typical historical discussion as it is outside its scope. Meaning, these six-days or periods of time are not historical time and the reference to days and periods in this verse are not as we know them to be and what we are typically concerned with in the subject of history (i.e. 24 hour days).
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from certainclarity in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from habib e najjaar in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from strangelove in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from Sumayyeh in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from rkazmi33 in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
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Abu Hadi got a reaction from bacchante1015 in Hoor al-`Ayn are not White Chicks
My father in law, who is an alim, explained it this way.
First, we should not focus on this subject. We all have a long way to go to get there, Paradise, if we ever manage to get there. Getting too much into these discussions is counter productive, at this point. That is why the Holy Quran did not go too much into details regarding the Hour Al Ayn. It is sufficient for us to know at this point the these women exists and that they are pure and pleasing to us.
Second, each houriat is 'custom made' for her husband. So if her husband likes white skin, European features, blond hair, etc, then she will be that way. If he likes darker skin and darker hair, she will be that way. The sole purpose of her existence is to please her husband, so whatever pleases her husband, that is what she will be like.
There is no purpose in focusing on this, though, because this doesn't exist on earth, in this dunya. The purpose of a wife, in the dunya, is not only this purpose. She has many other responsibilities, to her children, parents, family, community, and to herself and most importantly to Allah(s.w.a). Sometimes there is concordance between these responsibilities, sometimes not. The marriage relationship in this dunya is mostly a test and a responsibility, and we get some pleasure out of it here and there. But in the next world, marriage has a different purpose, and spouses have a different purpose. Since this is something we have never experienced, we are not expected to fully comprehend it.
It is sufficient to know that it exists, and is a reality and act as a motivation for us to be good, and obey Allah(s.w.a) so that someday we may get this.
