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forte

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  1. One of the charges is threatening her life which is also very serious.  I agree that one should not be tried in the media but also, for charges to actually be laid in Canada they evidence would have to be very solid. I have worked in cases where it is seems obvious that there is an abuse situation and there is a disclosure made but one person's testimony is not enough as it comes to he-said she-said situation. The prosecutor needs solid evidence.  Probably recorded communications of some kind.  It is way too late to try and hide this.  CBC is not the National Enquirer and does not post stuff with which they could be charged with liable.. If he is guilty of this, there are probably other victims and they should not be discouraged from coming forward with the thought of protecting the greater good of the community as it is very much doing the opposite. It is really hard to come forward for victims as they have to go through lots of disbelief and personal attacks.  If he is innocent, let him be cleared and not left as a memory of someone running for the airport.


  2. On 4/12/2019 at 6:00 PM, Ibn Al-Shahid said:

    The Africans need to pay reparations as well. They share part of the sin for selling humans to the colonisers. 

    I have thought of that before.  These people were forcibly kidnapped and sold to traders and not just for the American slave market.  Seems more than obvious but is usually not addressed.  Why do some idolize their African roots when they were so seriously betrayed by their kinsmen?


  3. 7 hours ago, BowTie said:

    No one is defending people committing Zina, but I for instance replied to your logic that did not make sense.

    All your thread has no logic. And stop painting out as if non-Muslims are sl*ts and our Muslim girls are so pious, sitting at home innocently. 

    This thread is full of ignorant connotations. 

    Agreed.

     

    7 hours ago, BowTie said:

    This is proof of how the Muslim communities living in the West and Europe have no clue whats so ever about what happens around them. Thats why Muslim communities living in Europe and United States will never evolve, because they keep going backwards.

    This is a bit of an overreach! but I agree that you cannot build a strong community tainted with blind ignorance and bigotry.  Something we do need to be aware of so as not to inadvertently perpetuate an archaic style of demean and diminish as a (flawed) means of establishing ourselves, and as you say, with the potential to go backwards.


  4. 5 hours ago, Klanky said:

    She was a 15 year old girl, she deserves another chance. It's shameful of the Brits to revoke her citizenship - she's one of their own and she needs help.

    She WAS a 15 year old girl - she is now a hardened fanatic, with great connections, who stated she was totally OK with the inhumanities committed by ISIS.  Despite struggling in the last few months and losing her children, and having just given birth in a camp, she still has the cold superior arrogance of those who gave themselves the right to completely destroy the lives, livelihoods and homes of all those who did not share their beliefs.  Think for a moment with what she she agrees.  A lot of this took place in her Raqqa community while she played house and then participated or promoted in these horrors in ways she has no intention of sharing.

    I feel sorry for their kids too.  I also feel sorry for the thousands of kids that witnessed horrors many of us cannot even watch on screen from the safety of our Western home, for the little girls who were beaten and repeatedly raped while calling out for their murdered fathers, and of course for the many orphans who managed to find enough food and shelter to survive and whose lives will remain uncertain.  I don't think we should be cherry picking which children deserve help more, based on the acts of their parents.

    I did not sense any true remorse from either of them.  They both were pretty clear that they only wanted to come back for what the state could do for them.  There was not one word about what they could do for others. Not one.

    When you have people in such a compromised position still bolstered and strengthened by their murderous ideology, how strong do you think they will be once fed, and housed in a secure situation?  They are both a huge threat.  I am not in favour of using innocent lives as a therapy mat to determine if they will  or will not reconnect with what are now, since their "diaspora", global connections.  These people are fanatics.  The ONLY reason they want to return is that they want to be taken care of and will tap any resource to get it.  To willingly put innocent lives in danger to gamble with what these two will do, puts the lives of many at great risk, including children.


  5. I can see these women pushing hard for the Madonna image with the toddlers and newborns, but these are hard core, globally connected ISIS fanatics who would still be there if they had not been pushed out.  And they have no intention of changing. One was advocating fairly recently over social media very strongly for domestic terrorism in the US by driving cars and trucks into crowds to splatter as much blood as possible, and the other went to rallies by Anjem Choudary with her father from the age of 13.  She said she had a great time in Raqqa living the sweet life and has no regrets, just that she was forced from her home.  Unfortunately, the many many victims just outside her front steps did not share her sunshine and rainbows - and she said she was fine with that.  And to say they are not a friend to Shia is an understatement.  They should stay where they are and have the authorities there deal with them.. that is where they committed these atrocities.  If they go to their home countries for a trial, it would be impossible to address crimes committed in another  and they will be released to the general population.  They would require extensive supervision.  Twenty-four hour supervision would be incredibly expensive (3 teams each day for 8 hour shifts) and would be inadequate.  


  6. 30 minutes ago, Son of Placid said:

    Actually conversing earlier with someone who knows people in the Huntsville prison. Managed to break it down to the view room and kill room. Last statement was only the doctor and condemned in the kill room. There's a big window, condemned decides hood or not. There's no word an Imam was refused the view room. Uncertain if clergy was allowed to get any closer or not at this point.

    I read that only prison personnel were allowed in the death chamber and that there were prison personnel who were clergy, but the clergy did not include an Imam.  It made sense to me as prison personnel are presumably trained for this and would be able to be held accountable if they did or said anything that would cause problems or interfere with the process.  However, I do not see why he would not be allowed in the viewing room as the prisoners can make requests.


  7. 1 hour ago, rkazmi33 said:

    https://gulfnews.com/world/Asia/Pakistan/the-horror-of-child-servants-in-Pakistan-uzma-was-battered-to-death-for-taking-one-bite-of-food-1.1549444645559?fbclid=IwAR2qAT24Dkwp6k9zHZsOaxS8gwXfeBl1lLZqCbNRdQe_uJsDKQawANnJnxw

    Every couple of years, one incident happens in Pakistan which really shakes me. How can one human being be so so so cruel to another human being? I know such incidents happen a lot, but this girl suffered for 8 months and details of the abuse are just horrifying. People in eastern countries really need to pay attention to mental health. They think only people who suffer from depression or commit suicide have mental health problems. What about people who do such horrific things to other human beings, they also need to see psychiatrists. This incident especially effected me because my ex-husband and in-laws live in the same city, Lahore, and they look so much like 3 women who committed this horrific crime. 

    Thanks.  Sadly, this is not new or unique.  In Pakistan, many "servants" (slaves would be a closer term than employee) are mistreated if not by blatant physical abuse but by constant degradation by those who feel they are superior human beings to the lowly ones washing their dishes and cleaning up their personal mess. The biggest inhumanity is that is so common place and accepted that it is not even something that is considered worthy of remarking about let alone actually doing something to address it.  There are no shortage of excuses are made to retain the status quo.  


  8. 6 minutes ago, Carlzone said:

    That has no value islamically. 

    Homosexuals have a choice to do homosexual acts or not. Allah SWT would never punish them for something that was not in their hands. Allah SWT destroyed a whole nation of homosexuals. I don't believe he made a mistake or was unfair towards them. 

    Then don't introduce pseudo genetic justifications.


  9. 1 minute ago, Carlzone said:

    20% is not much. On average it's most likely much less than 20%. And even if it was 20% it would still not explain all the difference. 

    2% - 5% is considered statistically significant in most case studies.  20% is huge.

    Also epigenetics comes into play.  The expression (phenotype) of genes can vary between twins. That is, a gene can have multiple phenotypes.

    Any difference, can be explained with very little genetic difference (and in this case, as I said, it is significant); but ultimately it is the phenotypic expression that clearly shows the differences.

     

     

     


  10. 3 minutes ago, notme said:

    You know how Alpine rescue dogs carry that little cask of brandy, or at least they used to. More than one life was saved by the temporary warming effect of the strong alcohol buying enough time to bring them into shelter. (Of course, without immediate rescue, it would simply dull their pain while they freeze to death.)

    Alcohol is always a neurotoxin. In rare cases the benefit may outweigh the harm. 

    Good brainstorming! :)

    I wonder if it was helpful as alcohol may make you feel warmer,  but alcohol actually lowers the core temperature of your body. 

    It also used to be thought to be healthy to serve pregnant women stout (kind of drink) in the UK to "boost their blood" (iron?).


  11. 45 minutes ago, Carlzone said:

    Identical twins are more often simultaneously homosexuals than regular siblings - which suggest a genetic predisposition to becoming a homosexual. However not all identical twins are simultaneously homosexuals which suggests that genes don't force anyone to become a homosexual. If this was the case then all identical twins would be simultaneously homosexuals. 

    Identical twins start out the same but there are genetic changes as they go through life and they do not end up identical (not usually a huge difference but can be up to 20%).  Their genomes are only identical at birth.

     


  12. I think this is the most salient part of the article:

    After years of steadily climbing upwards, life expectancy in the United States has been dropping in recent years, prompting health researchers to blame the trio of alcohol, suicide and drugs. In 2012 alone, 3.3 million people around the world died due to “harmful” consumption of alcohol, according to the World Health Organization. In Russia, so many men died of alcohol-related causes starting in the 1980s that the country has a recognized demographic of women unable to find husbands. Alcohol abusers get cancer more often, they destroy their organs and they injure themselves more often. In Canada, impaired driving remains the leading cause of criminal death. Roll all of this together and it is an extremely mainstream medical opinion that heavy drinking is always bad.

    It is not just the impact on personal health which is a huge topic. Alcohol use leads to impulsive, extremely poor decision making.  It ruins the lives of not just the drinker, but their families and anyone they come across when under the influence.  It only takes one drink to impair judgement. I don't know how you can quantify the impact but I don't think there is any situation where alcohol causes the outcome to be better.


  13. Using the same line of thought, a practising Christian could refuse service to a Muslim due to the possibility of polygamy as they would think of more than one wife as adultery, a major sin.  Covering your face can be seen as having something to hide and are thereby the person seen as potentially unlawful,  or perhaps serving a covered woman is viewed as supporting the oppression of women. It is a slippery slope.  

    The behaviour of judgement and legal exclusion will be repeated, merely the specifics  of the circumstances will change.


  14. 1 minute ago, 2Timeless said:

    Am I wrong in stating that not all Arabs are racist? And not all Arabs are superior? If you think I'm wrong, then you yourself have a ton of ethnocentric bias. And yes, I am not wrong. No one nation is full of the same type of people. It's honestly just common sense. Simple as that. 

    Perspective means to look at the bigger picture and to also look at others' way of viewing things.  You are stuck in a muddy puddle of a large beautiful field.  It would be very enlightening for you to spend more time listening and learning. 


  15. 34 minutes ago, 2Timeless said:

    I know I cannot have it one way. However when you have the same people repeatedly saying incredibly insulting things about your own race, one does get very annoyed and frustrated. Especially when oneself and others have tried to calmly correct those certain individuals, and put it into perspective that not all Arabs are the same. And not all Arabs feel superior. This was done many times, as you've probably seen throughout the three pages of this thread. This is a platform to discuss opinions etc. Myself and other people have tried to get rid of those certain ethnocentric biases by explaining that such generalisations are catastrophic, as they result in borderline (if not completely) racist comments. 

     

    Please link me to where anyone has worshiped a nation. I for one, have not seen it on this thread or anywhere else on the site. Patriotism and love for your country is not the same as nationalism, or worshiping your country. 

     

    No matter how mild or tame comments seem in comparison to comments you've seen, racism is racism. Ethnocentric bias and prejudice is the same. Whether it's magnified to the max, or muted in a sly manner. The comments on this thread, and other threads, have been incredibly rude and offensive to Arabs. No matter how mild you may view them.

    As I said, develop some perspective.  Creating apologetics for your sidekick's behaviour while calling out others on what you see as theirs will not fly.  Use this as an opportunity to reflect and learn.

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