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forte

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  1. Tom and Jerry were created by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera at the MGM studios in 1940, NOT by Walt Disney. :lol: 'Jewish' Walt Disney :P Cartoon brain washing conspiracy :!!!: Iranian University -- accredited educational intstitute ???? :P Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic -- BUT, what is even more pathetic is that the Iranian University Professor's (..hmmm....wonder if he is tenured?.. :sick: ....... ) Iranian University students are copiously taking notes without a hint of skeptism or independent thought..........
  2. (salam) Rhetoric is one thing, practice is another. This is how Tom Fox (recently killed by his abductors in Iraq) practised his interpretation of love. This is part of his blog from http://www.selvesandothers.org/view2840.html CPTnet 2 December 2005 IRAQ: Most recent reflection by Tom Fox, "Why are we here?" [Note: The following reflection was written by Tom Fox the day before he was abducted.] The Christian Peacemaker Team (CPT) Iraq team went through a discernment process, seeking to identify aspects of our work here in Iraq that are compelling enough to continue the project and
  3. (salam) That is a great comprehensive list - really makes you think about what was accomplished by scientists and creative inventors of the Isamic World in a relatively short period of time. Shia by Nature posted this link on another forum; it is an excellent documentary about the some of the same scientific achievements of Muslims, and a great supporting resource for the Independent news article.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7502243539190558658 This should work.
  4. Tom fox was a Quaker - a member of the Christian Peacemaker Teams - not a right-wing evangelist. But, I do agree with your assessment of the perception of why he was there. However, there are many documented accounts of the work he did in the ME to ease the suffering of the people. As to why he was there, he was questioning that himself and blogged it a day before he was abducted: CPTnet 2 December 2005 IRAQ: Most recent reflection by Tom Fox, "Why are we here?" [Note: The following reflection was written by Tom Fox the day before he was abducted.] The Christian Peacemaker Team (CPT
  5. He was suffering from heart problems - at least that is what has been reported. But I also think that his death is suspicious - and that he had information that many would not have wanted released. But he is gone from this world and will have to now face the next.
  6. As in acceptance and submission to the hieracrchical structure? Cowering to the top dog? Defeat? :(
  7. (salam) And for balance and fairness, how would you group the Muslims that come to this site - again as to their specific agendas? (salam) Excellent idea. It would provide much needed structure and direction. This forum is too often dominated by those appearing to seek attention - not dialogue. There needs to be some balance and commonality of purpose to move forward.
  8. What is the point of a gratuitous insult? This helps to promote animosity among posters. Is that what the Dev. Team at ShiaChat strive for? I would think that anyone representing the forum would need to part of the solution - not part of the problem here.
  9. the article ends with: The Muslim Students Association, which was among the leading critics of the cartoon, said Teheri-azar had never been a member of the group and denounced him on its Web site. "Regardless of what his intentions prove to be, we wholeheartedly deplore this action, and trust that our fellow classmates will be able to dissociate the actions of this one disturbed individual from the beliefs of the Muslim community as a whole," the statement said. "Peace be upon you all."
  10. (salam) I don’t wish to debate or enjoin in lengthy rambling rhetoric. It is clear that there will be no meeting of the minds here and the effort will not be constructive. As you have asked, this is my view, and last post: When the Muslim community was faced with challenges during the time of the Prophet and the Caliphate, defensive measures were needed. The wars in those cases were primarily because treaties were broken and the offending tribes needed to be dealt with as a matter of state and not religious preference. "To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to defend thems
  11. (salam) I believe that I understand - I just clearly disagree. However, I wish you could understand what I am saying. You are rationalizing hating 'Tom' because he is a Christian and believes in a false doctrine. You say you don't hate him for his professional position but for his false beliefs. I'm sure he carries these beliefs with him regardless of other areas of his life, so you will need to hate 'Tom' at all times. It is OK to disagree with 'Tom's' beliefs, but not to hate 'Tom' based on his beliefs. Islam is a religion of peace and understanding - these words of hate do little to pr
  12. (salam) :huh: Well, only you know your true agenda here and only you and yours will have to live with the consequences of it. I was responding to what appears to be a theme within your posts. You obviously put time and thought into your posts but it is hard to contemplate the content when you have to dig through the offensive sarcastic put downs of brothers of the book and what I (and perhaps others) perceived as open hatred - regardless of the rationale. Christians BELIE these Attributes of the Almighty. I hate them for their Kufr! I hate them with a passion because of that. Perhaps it is
  13. Disagreement and hatred are two very different things. Hatred only hurts the person doing the hating and tangentially often those that are close to him (by his consequent mood and behaviours) - for example, a man's wife and children. Being "sensitized" to your negative feelings and the impact they have on you and those you love is something worth examining. I pray that all those who feel hate and anger let go of their "hot coal".
  14. You use the word 'hate' a lot in your posts. You must be very angry and maybe very sad :( - it would be best to let go of this corrosive feeling and replace it with love of mankind. I'll steer away from Islam, Christianity and Judaism with this quote - but all religions express a similar sentiment. This one may be helpful to you - Read and Think!! Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. Buddha
  15. I apologize if I appeared to be attacking you - that was not my intention. I came to this forum to learn - but just in this thread alone I feel as though my questions are not welcome and that there is a lot of animosity towrds me - someone you don't know and don't wish to know. My questions have not been respected or validated so I am guessing my ideas will not be either. Again, I apologize for any part of your anger I am responsible for. Peace.
  16. Broad generalizations and are the seeds of misunderstanding. I find it is better to ask than assume. That is what I attempted to do here - but it was not welcome.
  17. I asked a question for understanding of a posters point. I made no judgement. Does that make me anti-Muslim?
  18. I will concede that I know little about northern Nigeria - but not "absolutly nothing". The rest has nothing to do with targeting Muslims. You have made an assumption that you know where I am coming from - and as assumptions usually go - it is incorrect. Isn't factual ideology an oxymoron?
  19. Where do Christians riot and kill Muslims out of love and respect for Jesus and the dignity of Christianity?
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