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  1. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Do you believe meeting Him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) means His Essence or His Holy Names? Or do you believe His Holy Names are also His Essence?
  2. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Go ahead and describe God your own way... and only you will understand it. We believe Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is beyond description. He (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) gives us His Holy Names so that He will make us getting closer to witness and understand Him... La illaha illalah. There are conditions for Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to help or guide us. We first have to show that our free will is for Him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). وَٱلَّذِينَ جَٰهَدُوا۟ فِينَا لَنَهْدِيَنَّهُمْ سُبُلَنَا ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَمَعَ ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ And those who strive for Us - We will surely guide them to Our ways. And indeed, Allah is with the doers of good. (29:69) In return, He will guide us on how we should use our free wills on the Earth for our daily activities correctly. When we get stuck, HE is there to help, HE is the ONE that grant us sabr, knowledge, makes us grow, show us to the right .... so on. All the souls of Prophets and Imams are one type, that they have surrendered their souls to Allahswt and the Holy Names of Allahswt (we call Light) are totally united with their souls. The Souls that have brightest Light are 14 maksum. This is Nafs wahida. Those among us whose souls are connected to this Nafs Wahida (Light)...will get what we call "Light within me". Some if us might have a little, some may have little more...so on. Through this unity of Nafs, we are connected to Light of Prophets and Imams. This connection is important because we live on this lower Earth. We need guidance, we need Ulil Amr to instruct us on our directions and objectives and missions in our life. So our life has meaning. Imam Khomeini needs to be Ariff, and need to be spiritually in tune with the Light because he need to Lead a Nation against oppressors. If he was not guided spritually by Prophet and Imams directly through Unity of Nafs, by spiritual means he will fail. At certain situation, he also went to see Ayatullah Behjat. Ayatullah Tabatabie, need the spiritual Light, because he was heavily involved in writing tafsir al Mizan. Even him got stucked sometimes, and only through spiritual means, the Light has help him to confirm few of his difficulties about Qur'an. Qur'an cannot just be understood by reading. We as ordinary persons need Tawheed or spiritual means to get guidance from that Ulil Amri (Light), surrendered our free will by forcing the self to perform worship. Even sleep is part of worship. With the hope that the closeness of our Nafs to the Light, we get guidance and direction on how to lead our life. If we are engineer, the Light within us (acquire through Tawheed, spiritual means) will make us to use our engineering knowledge and skills for good purpose. If we die, we will die as a person that has the Light within us... hopefully, the Light is from our current Imam, so that our entire life is to prepare for his return. The Sufis, when their they embark on spiritual journey, their souls jump upward, they never come down...for them reality that their physical eyes see on lower Earth does not exist..they strive to jump higher and higher...until their souls reaches to the level of haqiqa. Their souls stay there. They don’t come down. They stay in pluto (just as an example) The different between us and Sufis... we let our souls embark on spiritual journey as high as we could to reach the Light of Ulil Amri, so that we get to worship Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) in the right way, get hidayah and knowledge, and instructions on how Ulil Amr want us to lead life on lower Earth on daily basis. Our souls bring some of the Light that they get from Ulil Amr. Both body and souls unite again on the physical Earth. Then we execute those instructions (using our free will that connected to the Light that we got from Ulil Amr) on our daily activities while we face the worldly realities. It is highly specific to our own needs and also how to help our current Imam. So we jump our souls upward during salat, dua kumail and other duas, ziarats, zikr..tahajjud..remembrance Imam Hussain especially last portion of ziarat ashura... then our souls come down. Can we imagine if Ayatullah Khamenei don't get directives though spiritual means from Ulil Amr? It is the most secure channel to get guidance. Otherwise he cannot instruct the nation wisely. Zionist the US AND EU are arrogant and slick Oppressors. These oppressors also have spiritual means to Syaitans and Iblis.
  3. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    This is what happened when the souls of a Sufi takes off from the reality of the world that we live in and don't come down anymore. Their souls has reached to a station where they tie their souls to something up there... we don’t know what. It is highly likely tied to a past Sufi Masters who live at that station. According to Sufi who has reached at that station, the freedom is illusion. The freedom only exist at their new station...freedom to worship the God interrupted. From Sufi point of view, the lower world (that live in)...not important. Whereas, we normal people believe that the Earth that we step on is important and we have to use our free will to make it better for Al Mahdi to return.
  4. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    This is what happened when A Sufi takes off from the reality of the world that we live in and don't come down anymore. Both feet not touching the ground anymore, gravity has no effect on them. Their souls has reach to a station where they tie their souls to something up there... we don’t know what. It is highly likely tied to a past Sufi Masters who live at that station. According to Sufi who has reached at that station, the freedom is illusion.
  5. When comes to loving Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), we are all together. When comes to loving the Prophet (عليه السلام), we are all together. When comes to loving Ahlul Bayt, some are not with us. We are one NAFS..nafs wahidah. It should not break up from top to bottom, from Names of Allah to Muhammad and to Ali...that spirituality. Khawarij are also extreme lover of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), history recorded and their forehead has thick scar due prostration to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). But fought against Ali (عليه السلام). The NAFS broken in term of unity.
  6. We depart on the spiritual vehicles to reach Him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Hold on Qur'an and Ahlul Bayt. This is ship that I need to embark is capable to sail through rough seas. From syariah, aqlaq...other knowledge and spiritual... this ship has solutions. Love of Ali is a sign of faith, hate of Ali is sign of hypocrisy. If Abu Bakr followed Ahlul Bayt, then he was in the ship. But he has a different ship. When you said Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) loves everything that exist how come I not love Abu Bakr? Let change Abu Bakr to Yazid or Saddam Hussain. Will the same statement apply?
  7. I have no issues with those who pray like Sunnis, follow and teach like Sunni fiqh.. as long they do not insult Ahlul Bayt. For us, the greatest Ariffs are Ahlul Bayt, not Rumi or others. Brother eThErEaL, Do you love both Ali and Abu Bakr? If yes, here where we depart spiritually. We embark on different ship to the destiny.
  8. Salam, Spirituality / mystic and philosophy are part of Islamic knowledge. Just as humans have different languages to communicate and to express their views, Rumi has his own ways to express his love toward Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). When a person expresses his love to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), we are with him. When he expresses his love to Prophet and Ahlul Bayt, we are with him. If he expresses his love to those who are not aligned with Ahlul Bayt, we will screen his expression...it is pure love or taqqiya. If it is taqqiya, then it is different story. When a Shia discusses with a Sunni, the Shia will quote hadiths from Sunni sources to make his point clear, even though the hadith was transmitted through Abu Huraira. But, in reality a Shia will not put his trust on Abu Huraira. This is taqiyya. What it important is the message, not who transmitted it. And to allow a smooth discussion and to prove point. Whether Rumi was using taqqiya because of his situation, then it is upto to the readers to investigate. Many Sufis, love Ali and love Abu Bakr too. If he truly love both Ali and Abu Bakr with full sincerity, and not taqqiya, then that love has gone wrong. But, if he live among Sunnis and he wants to be accepted by them, so that he gets the chance to tell Sunnis about how great Ali is... then it is different story. Because a Sunni will not tolerate if a Sufi / Shia telling them that Ali is much much greater than Abu Bakr.
  9. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    The problem is when you keep quoting and it is out of contact. We are discussion the condition of people on Earth, but you are quoting condition people on pluto. Two different basis.
  10. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Sprituality is a journey...from plurality to tawheed. At the very bottom of the journey or station is this physical world. You are talking about spiritual journey that at the level of Imam Khomeini and Ayatullah Tabatabaie. And it took years for them to reach. And these Ariffs already have clean up their souls from physical needs and reached to level of Names of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), a station that so high. All their heart see is Light. The station in not in this physical world. The spiritual levels are in hundred. The highest level during mi'raj of the Prophet...even Jibrail cannot reach. Hadi5, you cannot just qoute writings of Ariffs and in wrong context and for public consumptions. You are just a teacher in primary school and talk about quantum physics at the level of a Professor. And your audience is just ordinary people.
  11. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Salam, we should melt our souls with HIS Names, until His Names control the Souls... يَا أَيَّتُهَا النَّفْسُ الْمُطْمَئِنَّةُ ارْجِعِي إِلَى رَبِّكِ رَاضِيَةً مَرْضِيَّةً To the righteous it will be said “oh reassured soul, return to your Lord well pleased, and pleasing to Him” [89:27-28]
  12. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Too high level to understand. If Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) created a knife to cut and when the knife is used it will cut. The very purpose of a knife is to cut. Infact, the knife that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) created can be said pure good. Everything Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) created is for good purposes. When the knife is given to humans to use in this world, then the hand that use the knife must be responsible for what purpose it will be used. To cut vegetables then it is ok. To cut throat of a mukmin ( by ISIS), then it is not okay (even though we all know that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) gives the ability of a knife to cut). Sexual drive in human is created by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) for survival of human species. To use it for raping a girl, that was not the intended use of sexual drive. Don't associate negative attributes to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is the Most Intelligent, stupidity doesn't exist in Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Stupidity cannot be attributed to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), even though humans are acting stupid.
  13. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Your Tawheed is off limit. You don't understand the difference between what is Rabb (Lord) and what is Abd (slave). These two exist. You are saying Abd does not exist...only Rabb When the human made zina...why attribute it to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)? You don't understand why Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) create Souls and He wants the souls to return to Him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). You don't understand the difference between Creator vs Created human being. Why Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) created human being in the first place. To serve or worship Him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). If everything is Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)...why worship is needed. You don't understand the verse 2:156 Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un (Arabic: إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ‎) AND you are answering questions...just statement and assumptions. This type of sufism is off limits.
  14. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    You statement contradicts the Qur'an that says in 2:156 Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un (Arabic: إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ‎) If everything is Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), why we need to return to Him ? The return to Him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), according to your statement is not needed because everything is already Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and humans are not entity by it own.
  15. layman

    Tawheed in action .

    Let me ask you a philosophical question. Is Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is the Most Powerful? Can He make Himself to be weak? Or Is Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is The Creator and He can created anything? Can he make himself as created being? Or created Himself as stupid?
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