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Billy Saltzman

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  1. 11 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

    Salam we just curse deviated people  & enemies  of Ahlulbayt  (عليه السلام) whether being  companion or not & accusing Shias to cursing wives of prophet  (pbu) is a batalant  lie which has been spread by wahabists /Salafist because we just have criticized  two of them , Ayesha & somehoe Hafsa which only a radical grouplet  of Shias are cursing them but wahabists /Salafist have accused all of shias to cusing wives of prophet (pbu) while they have only considered Ayesha equal to all wives of prophet (pbu) which even they have tried to decrease position of lady Khadija (sa) as mother of lady Fatima (sa) which progeny  of prophet (pbu) only has been continued  through Lady Khadija (sa) & lady Fatima (sa) by humilating her as just an old woman to portray Ayesha as beloved wife of prophet  (pbu) which in contrast to this claim lady Khadija (sa) & lady Fatima (sa) have been most beloved person for prophet (pbu) which Ayesha then now wahabists/Salafist have had hatred & jealousy  toward them but on the other hand prophet (pbu) so therefore Shias have  had love of Lady Khadija (sa) & lady Fatima (sa) in their heart & praised these two high ranking ladies in eye of prophet Muhammad (pbu) which also both of them have adorned by Allah which has caused jealousy  & hatred of Ayesha toward them .

    walaikum al salam. Your post smacks of denial. First of all, if a man has 4 sons, and you curse 2 of them, it is a factual statement to state that you have cursed that man's sons. Furthermore, this is from this very forum:

    "Ever heard of the battle of Jamal? It's when Aisha brought 3,000 soldiers to Basra in preparation for war against Amirul Momineen Ali Ibn Abi Talib (عليه السلام).
    How could you wage war against the very soul of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)? Unless, of course, you are a lying, backstabbing, short-tempered hypocrite."

    Calling Aisha a "lying, backstabbing, short-tempered hypocrite" is some of the lowest and meanest language to use towards a wife of the prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)).

    I'm not here to attack the Shia so there's no need to be defensive. I'm asking about a very real problem I see. At this point in my life I can simply identify as a Sunni with strong Shia leanings in regards to the Ahl al Bayt (عليه السلام).

  2. 11 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

    Salam Brother, 

    I'm not sure what you mean 'emphasis on cursing'. The emphasis is on following the religion of Islam and the teachings of Rasoulallah(p.b.u.h). The 'emphasis on cursing' is a talking point of the Takfiri groups that is echoed in the Media outlets that are sympathetic to their cause. Extremist speakers like Yasir Habib (who does emphasis cursing) do not represent Shiism or the vast majority of Shia the same way that ISIS does not represent the vast majority of Sunnis. 

    Having said that, I will say that there are certain facts of Islamic History (such as the events of Saqifa immediately following the death of Rasoulallah(p.b.u.h), the murder of Malik ibn Nuwaiyra by Khalid ibn Al Walid, the attacking of the house of Imam Ali((عليه السلام)) and Fatima Zahra((عليه السلام)) by Umar, the battle of Jamal, the events of Karbala, etc) which are 'inconvenient' for the mainstream of Sunni ulema to discuss and which are almost never discussed in 'polite' company. So our brothers and sisters never hear about these events, so when we discuss them, they say we are 'cursing'. Discussing history isn't cursing and it isn't hatred. Those are different things. Discussing and trying to find out the truth and where is the Haqq is a duty of all Muslims.

    walaikum al salam. I actually agree with your comments and really appreciate them. I actually wish what you said was true but I've seen very mean language right here on this forum towards both the wives and companions of the prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)). What actually prompted me to write this post was because I was browsing this site yesterday and saw someone call Aisha evil, a liar, and a hypocrite. I can totally accept that blame falls on the companions and even the wives of the prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)). The story of Malik ibn Nuwaira is horrifying. The mistakes of the prophet's ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) wives are clearly addressed in the Quran. But I can't accept the extreme disrespect for any of them. I look at it as if my father were to become evil. I would reject him and stand opposed to his evil. But I wouldn't start calling him ridiculous names. It's also very petty. There's a big difference between standing up against evil and petty name calling. This is the biggest problem I see with the Shia and why I can't be one in spite of the strong draw that pulls me regarding love for the prophet's family ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)).

  3. As a Sunni I have always been sympathetic to Shiism. But I must say that the one thing that has always stopped me in my tracks from accepting the way of the Shia is all the emphasis on hating people. I find many problems in Sunnism which has troubled me for a long time but they do emphasize worship of Allah and love of the prophet (‎(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and have no emphasis on hating people as an aspect of faith. I’m pretty sure that if Shiism focused more on the wilayat of Ali (عليه السلام) and love for the family of the prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and didn’t always focus on cursing the companions and wives of the prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) many people would become Shia.

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