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  1. 1 hour ago, Nightclaw said:

    Yes, I cannot believe a liar. Shi'a are known to do reconciliation taqiyyah, which is only to soften the hearts of the opposition while blatantly lying. I'm not going going to trust someone like that. That is one of the traits of a pathological liar.

    You're born Sunni, correct? You've read our books initially, cover to cover, while understanding it? You've read Minhaj as-Sunnah from cover to cover? Fathul Bari? I'm inclined to believe you're lying, for some reason. A lot of Shi'a I've come across that claim to be Sunni are generally lying about it and never can back it up. They can never prove they were Sunni, whereas people like Hussein Shimrani can prove it. That's why Shi'i are afraid to debate him. He knows our books and your books. He will decimate a Shi'a in a debate without leeway. 

    Believe it or not, idc. Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows, i do not have anything to prove to anyone for myself. HE'S THE ONE, MY WITNESS OVER EVERYTHING.

  2. 1 hour ago, Nightclaw said:

     I'm not sure you can truly distinguish what's true and not with your sources alone, hence why you always need to prove your beliefs by our side.

    Not entirely true brother, we often refer and try to find bases of our explanation in your books just to make you realise the TRUTH. Why do you not understand. 

    What do you know about the pen and paper hadith Raziyat Yawm al-Khamis ...?


  3. 1 hour ago, Nightclaw said:

    Your early texts have been manipulated, lost, and distorted as admitted by your own scholars.

    Two/three in thousands.

    Additionally, there are different topics related to Qur'an which were raised by two/three shia scholars, but the rest didn't agreed to them, so that surely doesn't represent the entirely thoughts of ahl-e-tashay.

    So then do not you think that the discussion for the suckling verses should also be considered by your side. Why do you tangle the words of the mother of mo'meeneen titled by you.

  4. 1 hour ago, Nightclaw said:



    1 hour ago, Nightclaw said:

    Read our books.

    Brother, im born sunni, id have read only our books initially but the questions created by that were resolved in a manner that i found the truth. Do not be stubborn, do not be biasedz, shias are able to locate hadiths which support their ideas whereas ignorance is being displayed by other school of thought which spread things like, "do not read their books", "do not listen to your shia friends", "never believe shias", and rest i believe you know. 

  5. 44 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    So then neither side should even give their opinions and try to argue based on ignorance.

    By my side, i do not consider this as an argument rather it's just a discussion. Which by ahl-e-sunnah is always avoided and thus the "misconceptions" created for disturbance in Islam wins!

    And we are providing reasons for all ehat we say and not just in air. Im preparing for uh the list of events occured after Holy Prophet(saww) the conversation/discussion is not biased rather one or the other person here are doing some or the other research on certain topics and if they fall into error then i guess moderaters are here to help.


  6. 18 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    I don't blind follow because from early on, i.e. Imam Malik, Hanbal, Shafi'i, and Ahmad, all state to not follow them if they made mistakes and refer back to the Qur'an and Sunnah.


    Yk what why this is being said? This is because, the four main hadith books(and even four imams considered by sunnis) were living during the period of strong and tyrannical abbasid rulers.(google about abbasid rulers of that period)

  7. 16 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    Not quite. They left him (about 1,000 odd men) while on his way to Yazid, which they regret. 

    Are you serious? Have you ever studied deeply, what exactly happened in Karbala with Imam Hussain(عليه السلام). And yeah not just this you should research on every single incident which occurred after the death of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saww).

  8. 12 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    This is an indication of not to blind follow them 

    Indeed! Just think about this deeply.


    14 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    the rest of the scholars unanimously agree that blind following is only for the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.

    Then what is the role of ahlulbayt(عليه السلام) according to you brother?

    P.s.: im not saying to follow blindly any "saying" which just simply mentions that it is said by Rasool'allah(saww) or ahlulbayt(عليه السلام) without knowing whether the chain of narration is weak or strong, it really matters! Theres infact more research, i aint sure about rest of the process.

  9. 12 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    This isn't necessarily true. I wasn't raised to be biased, but I was raised to be firm on something that can be no other way in actuality. I don't blind follow because from early on, i.e. Imam Malik, Hanbal, Shafi'i, and Ahmad, all state to not follow them if they made mistakes and refer back to the Qur'an and Sunnah.

    Good to know!

  10. 8 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    If they don't know what they're talking about and relying on translation rather than the actual linguistics of the Qur'an, then I think you should take what they say with a grain of salt or refer back to what our exegetes says.

    Well brother, of course, we are not held responsible for others. But spreading the THE TRUTH and THE RELIGION OF ALLAH-ISLAM is something which falls into our duty as Muslim, as mo'meen.

    P.s.: I personally have learnt arabic for this part! 

  11. 3 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    That's not what someone who understands something would do, wouldn't you agree?

    Completely agreed!

    4 minutes ago, Nightclaw said:

    Translation? No. If you understand Arabic, there's no need to translate.

    Yes indeed, but as you mentioned that many don't know arabic, so the brother @Muslim2010tried to say this only(if im not wrong) that they completely rely on what their community scholars explain to them, i.e. without using any logic or reasoning. 

    And of course those who misspell, no comments, Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows best.

  12. 4 hours ago, Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi said:

    Nabi but Jibreal made mistake and gave it to Propeht Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) Astagfirullah.

    To a greater extent,

    Some think shias worship ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib(عليه السلام), and the moderates among shias worship Allah but do not believe in the message of the prophet Muhammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).). And shias CURSE the Archangel Gabriel for betraying what he was entrusted with. 

    This is absolutely not correct!

    (I read it in a book)

  13. 21 minutes ago, Muslim2010 said:

    Through this verification I was able to respond to one of the misconceptions circulated by extremists or people who do not like shia.

    Proud of you brother! May Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) reward you. 

    It is very imp to unveil this stuff, as this is the only thing creating worst barrier for the people with reasoning. 

    I wonder those who are already learned like given high status of sheikhs, how do they do this? Why do not they try to spread the TRUTH. 


    17 minutes ago, Muslim2010 said:

    "Shia has different quran".

    Yes ive also heard this, not so far, i heard this from really closed once. I was like wait what, nay.

    Although, not to mention that sunnis have changed meaning of some words in English Translation themselves and are spreading lies on us.(just saying, do not get offended) for instance, the wudhu part.

  15. 4 hours ago, Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi said:

    I have seen some people saying that Shias believe Ali (عليه السلام) was going to be a Nabi but Jibreal made mistake and gave it to Propeht Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) Astagfirullah.

    I was wondering where did that come from?

    Yes ive also heard this. Allahu Akbar even we as shias do not even think of such things but look how satan encourages for spreading lies amd things which shias are completely unaware about.

    Additionally, many believe that shias believe Imam Ali(عليه السلام) a prophet till date and thus they are not allowed to eat or drink anything provided by them"shia". Allahu Akbar 

  16. Salam

    Well, as we all know that the people from diff sects are not going to come to us and ask what's the diff betn you and us, they're simply gonna believe in what their community scholars will tell them. But in case if some decides to take help from the internet, so my attempt is for that. Anyone from anywhere can discuss what they think about shias n we'll try to clear that out and we shias ourselves should present some misconceptions we've heard. (I myself have experienced and was on the verge of getting tht misconceptions in my head so i just wanna give it a shot, if it helps even just a single being).

  17. On 1/8/2021 at 12:42 PM, Abu Nur said:

    Thank you for making this topic. Insha'Allah we will benefit and come to good conclusion.

    Yes indeed inshaallah, it's much interesting and was in my head from very long. As we both @Zainuu share the same region ik these kind of practices and completely got ur point but unfortunately i wasnt able to find the exact ans of it from the discussion yet. Inshaallah we'll get to know tht soon. I myself am trying to find answer to this.

  18. 4 minutes ago, lissenma said:

    I got his point. @Muhammed Ali said that the Mr . X is saying everyone except him are with the kufans. if I am not mistaken.

    And I said, anyone that truly is with the imam don't come to shiachat writing about it.

    No i guess he meant to say that, we all i.e. "shias" are misguided ones and he's the one whose among his(ajtf) side(argh quite confusing but did ya got my point?) But for sure thats not true, i agree with uh.

  19. 11 minutes ago, Muhammed Ali said:

    His belief is we are Kufans. But he is with the Imam {a}.


    Exactly! Because he has have not been given exact meaning of "SHIAS" I'm very familiar with this type of culture amd MISCONCEPTIONS, they try to embed wrong impression of shias in their heads and which ultimately leads to such things.

    P.s.: i personally was informed that, those who killed Imam Hussain(عليه السلام) were shias i.e. shias were the only ones who were helping yazid and matam is done for that purpose that they may get forgiveness for their act. Allahu Akbar 

  20. On 12/29/2020 at 11:41 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

    Salam respectfully I disagree with you because every nation or sect believes to existence or coming of a savior or saviors for example Native Americans belive to return of their ancestors from spirit world as their saviors & many traditional stories of Eastern countries like Japan Korea refers to a savior also sunnis belive to coming of reformer  that has different names but at the end Imam Mahdi (aj) & his 313 companions are sum up of all definitions from any savior in every culture or nation. 

    Oh yes and even Christians are hoping to see Isa(عليه السلام) soon. 

  21. On 1/6/2021 at 11:15 PM, Zainuu said:

    I am also interested to know this.

    What you told is a very minor thing sister. But, practices go as far as keeping Tazia and home-made Zari. Also, the practice of decorating imambargah or keeping a small box sized imambargah at home if you don't have space.

    With all due respect, I sense a lot of shirk sometimes.

    You'll be glad that tazia doesn't have any significance in Islam at any point. I belong to the same place so yes i really do think the same as uh. But i agree for the part "decorating Imambargah" i do think it's good to do that.(for ex, so many muslims have a separate room just for prayers so it may play that role, personally id love to have such room)ik the story behind tazia, if uh wish i can share. 

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