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Mohamad Abdel-Hamid

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  1. @Ali bin Hussein You're more than welcome dear brother. I myself have also learned a lot about the Zaid madhab, so we both have learned here. What I liked about this debate is that it was an honest and civil discussion, with points being brought up by both groups in order to point their claims. I hope the reader can learn as well from our conversation. Take care, wassalaam !
  2. I think he may be asking about the current Hashemite kingdom of Jordan, if the ruling family are truly descendants from Imam Hassan (عليه السلام), as they claim.
  3. Apparently many people here won't drink from the rivers of wine in Jannah.
  4. Wa alakum as-salaam, The video is not in Arabic, it's in Urdu I believe. However, it seems to talk about the permissibility of saying "Ashadu anna 'Aliyyan waliyyullah" in the tashahud. In minute 1:05 it does say in Arabic: Question: A woman used to say for years in her prayers during the tashahud: "Ahshadu an la ilaha ilallah, wa ashadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah, wa 'Aliyyan waliyyullah", so what's the ruling regarding her prayers ? Answer: If [she used to say this] out of inculpable ignorance, she doesn't need to repeat them; but if it was out of culpable ignorance, she has to repeat the prayers based on obligatory precaution. So it seems it's not allowed to say it, according to Sayyid al-Sistani. By the way, inculpable ignorance is when someone has a valid excuse for not knowing. Someone please correct me if I translated that part wrong.
  5. Wa alaikum as-salaam, I was just trying to show that you can't rush to a misunderstanding when one of the Shias give for example an attribute to Imam Mahdi (atf) and apparently sounds like shirk since only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has that attribute. And I didn't misunderstand the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). Again, I was using the same logic that you can't immediatly think of shirk when we say that a member of the Ahlulbayt (peace be upon them) "claims" divinity. Yes, the hadith from Bukhari is well explained (that is, for al-Mahi and al-Hashir, since in the Arabic text it doesn't say that by al-'Aqib he means that he's the last prophet, it only says so in the English text). I'm just saying that don't think that when a person for example says that he is the First and the Last, he's claiming to be on the same level of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). If that person explains what he means by First and Last, then it's ok. But even if he doesn't explain what he means, it's still ok because you don't know what he means by that, you don't know what his intention was, so you can't conclude that it's shirk or kufr. I believe the brother explained to you very well what he was trying to say, and with all honesty you're simply trying to exagerate because it doesn't go along with your views. Maybe as you said the same situation in the hadith of Biharul Anwar* happened here, where the brother may have said something that wasn't clear-cut on the onset (for you), hence resulting in you having a similar kind of reaction. Thank you. I'm sorry to disappoint. Thanks again . I hope these surprises are meant in the good sense. Take care too.
  6. You know, some people really should understand some concepts regarding the Imams and avoid having a false impression that the attributes they have equate to shirk, kufr, bid'ah, etc... This reminds me of a person that cherry picked this hadith from Biharul Anwar: http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/الكتب/1473_بحار-الأنوار-العلامة-المجلسي-ج-٤٢/الصفحة_191 روي أن أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام كان قاعدا في المسجد وعنده جماعة من أصحابه، فقالوا له: حدثنا يا أمير المؤمنين، فقال لهم: ويحكم إن كلامي صعب مستصعب لا يعقله إلا العالمون، قالوا: لا بد من أن تحدثنا، قال: قوموا بنا فدخل الدار فقال: أنا الذي علوت فقهرت، أنا الذي أحيي وأميت، أنا الأول والآخر والظاهر والباطن It was narrated that the Commander of the Faithful, peace be upon him, was sitting in the mosque with a group of his companions, and they said to him: Tell us something, O Commander of the Faithful. He said: I am the one who rose and subsided, I am the one who gives life and causes death, I am the First and the Last, the Apparent and the Hidden. How can he say this ? This is KUFR ! Subhanallah, you only have to continue reading the hadith: فغضبوا وقالوا: كفر! وقاموا، فقال علي عليه السلام للباب: يا باب استمسك عليهم، فاستمسك عليهم الباب، فقال: ألم أقل لكم: إن كلامي صعب مستصعب لا يعقله إلا العالمون؟ تعالوا أفسر لكم، أما قولي: أنا الذي علوت فقهرت فأنا الذي علوتكم بهذا السيف فقهرتكم حتى آمنتم بالله ورسوله، وأما قولي: أنا أحيي وأميت فأنا أحيي السنة وأميت البدعة، وأما قولي: أنا الأول فأنا أول من آمن بالله وأسلم وأما قولي: أنا الآخر فأنا آخر من سجى على النبي صلى الله عليه وآله ثوبه ودفنه، وأما قولي: أنا الظاهر والباطن فأنا عندي علم الظاهر والباطن، قالوا: فرجت عنا فرج الله عنك. They got angry and said: KUFR! And they stood up, and Ali, peace be upon him, said to the door: O door, hold on to them, so the door held on to them, and he said: Did I not tell you: My words are difficult and difficult, and only the knowledgeable can comprehend them? Come, I will explain to you, as for my saying: I am the one who rose and subsided, [that means that] I am the one who raised you with this sword, and I defeated you until you believed in God and His Messenger. And as for my saying: I revive and kill, I revive the Sunnah and kill innovation, and as for my saying: I am the first, I am the first to believe in God and embrace Islam, and as for my saying: I am the last, I am the last one who shrouded the Prophet, may God bless him and his family, with his clothing and burial. As for my saying: I am the apparent and the hidden, then I have the knowledge of the outward and inward. They said: You explained it to us, God bless you. I can also cherry pick some Sunni hadiths that apparently promote shirk and kufr, why don't you take a look: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3532 قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ لِي خَمْسَةُ أَسْمَاءٍ أَنَا مُحَمَّدٌ، وَأَحْمَدُ، وَأَنَا الْمَاحِي الَّذِي يَمْحُو اللَّهُ بِي الْكُفْرَ، وَأَنَا الْحَاشِرُ الَّذِي يُحْشَرُ النَّاسُ عَلَى قَدَمِي، وَأَنَا الْعَاقِبُ ‏"‏‏.‏ Here the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) says that he has 5 names: Muhammad, Ahmad, al-Mahi, al-Hashir and al-'Aqib. So he is al-Mahi, while I thought that only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) can truly erase sins and disbelief ? So he is al-Hashir, while I thought that only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) can raise and gather the dead ? So he is al-'Aqib, while I thought that only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is the last and the one who'll remain forever ? But of course I'm not going to say any of that, because I know that this hadith has been explained, the same way the hadith from Biharul Anwar has been explained, and that these attributes are not of the same level of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). I wish you could also do the same.
  7. I think these are the same: In Arabic it's Ya hujjat Allahi shakwanah ilaik, adrikna adrikna labaika labaik.
  8. I've also heard that in fact he was a good guy and was willing to help the Ahlulbayt, that's why the Umayyids and their allies quickly got rid of him, resulting in his reign being extremely short (2-4 months). But I don't know if this is acurrate.
  9. A couple ? I thought only Umar bin Abdul-'Azeez was a "good ruler" (by good, I mean the least bad, since history apparently shows us that he wasn't an opressor). Even then, he still didn't give the caliphate to it's rightful owners (the Imams), that's why if I remember correctly (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) there's a hadith that says something like: "the inhabitants of the earth praise him (Umar), while the inhabitants of the heavens curse him".
  10. This reminds me of a story my mom told me about one of her distant male cousins that also had 2 wives, and that they used to hate each other and grab each other's hair and scream.
  11. Who was Adam (عليه السلام) gonna guide, a bunch of animals and plants ? The dinosaurs existed before Adam (عليه السلام), but did they need guidance ? Of course not ! When did the children of Adam appear on Earth ? When Adam (عليه السلام) was sent to Earth of course, so he could guide them ! It's impossible for a guide to exist if there is no "we" that needs guidance. A person can't be a teacher if there are no students. You did think about that, right ?
  12. This problem actually falls on you since it's in your book, not ours. We couldn't care less what Sahih Muslim has to say, the brother only quoted it because he wants to prove that in Sunni works (meaning from the Sunni perspective) that the Sahabas, specially Ali and the Shaykhayn didn't get along AT ALL, and the hadith from Muslim proves it. Can you imagine a person calling someone else "liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest" and still believing that they loved each other ? "But 'Abbas also said Ali was a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest" ! As I said, so what ? 1) It's in your books, so why should I care or even attempt to answer back ? 2) It still doesn't change the fact that the Shaykhayn were still liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest, according to Ali. Will you ignore or deny this ? Why don't you also take a look at this hadith, from Musannaf 'Abd al-Razzaaq as-San'aani, page 104, hadith 10532: It's practically the same hadith, where we see that here 'Abbas doesn't insult Ali, but later Ali still insults the Shaykhayn, calling them Dhaalim and Faajir, ظالم and فاجر, meaning someone that is unjust and that speaks with very bad manners. Now you can't use the excuse that 'Abbas insulted Ali, and Ali still insulted the Shaykhayn, so do you have anything to say regarding this hadith too ? Regarding these traits that Ali (عليه السلام) has mentionned, also take a look at this hadith: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:34 So according to this hadith, the one who is 1- a traitor (خائن, Khaa'in), 2- a liar (كاذب, Kaadhib), 3- treacherous (غادر, Ghaadir), 4- speaks with insulting manners (فاجر, Faajir) is a PURE HYPOCRITE. All these traits are the exact same words that Ali (عليه السلام) used against the Shaykhayn. Coincidence ? So according to your books, the Shaykhayn are pure hypocrites (even having only 1 of these traits makes them a "simple" hypocrite, according to the hadith). Now remind me, what does the Qur'an say regarding the hypocrites ? وَعَدَ اللّٰہُ الۡمُنٰفِقِیۡنَ وَالۡمُنٰفِقٰتِ وَالۡکُفَّارَ نَارَ جَہَنَّمَ خٰلِدِیۡنَ فِیۡہَا ۚ ہِیَ حَسۡبُہُمۡ ۚ وَلَعَنَہُمُ اللّٰہُ ۖ وَلَہُمۡ عَذَابٌ مُّقِیۡمٌ "Allah promises the hypocrites, men and women, and the disbelievers the fire of Hell, wherein they shall abide. It will suffice them. And Allah has cursed them. And they shall have a lasting punishment" (Surah at-Tawba 9:68) Form your own conclusions. And remember, I'm not the one who's saying this, I simply mentionned everything that is in your books. And indeed Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows best.
  13. But according to brother @Ali bin Hussein, he is. Or is there difference of opinion even between Zaidis ? Source: Since the discussion of Zaidism has begun, I have learned so much, but there's one thing that I still don't have the answer to: Who are the Imams (of Zaidism) after al-Hussain (عليه السلام) until let's say 200 years later (and it's better if a trusted source or list of all of them could be provided until today). You already mentionned the characteristics and qualifications that a Zaidi Imam must posess, but who were these Imams historically ? We all already agree to the first 3 (Ali, Hassan and Hussain عليهم السلام), but who was the next one ? You mentionned if I remember correctly that it was Hassan al-Muthanna. Brother Ali bin Hussein says he was, but now you're also saying that al-Sajjad (عليه السلام) wasn't an Imam, but from al-Baqir to al-'Askari (عليهم السلام) they were all Imams. Obviously as Zaidis you also consider Zaid (رضي الله عنه) to be an Imam, and between these 9 Twelver Imams there are probably other personnalities who you consider to have been Imams. And then after al-'Askari (عليه السلام), I'm also pretty sure that Zaidi Imamate continued with personnalities other than al-Mahdi (atf). What I'm simply asking is if you could please enumerate who were (let's say the first 20) Zaidi Imams after al-Hussain (عليه السلام) ? We all know the 12 Imams, as well as the Isma'ili Imams, but the Zaidi ones are still a mystery to me. Thank you.
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