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    zahralzu reacted to 786:) in thoughts on raza of bayt al ghadeer adopting more sunni-centric beliefs?   
    I’m going to ignore your references of hadith as I don’t find any value to them nor do I read them—respectfully. But prophet Sulayman controls every single atom in the universe too? Who else? So Allah simply is asleep til Qiyamah even on Qiyamah he will take a backseat to Imam Ali to give out hell and heaven verdicts. This is foolish. Bring clear cut proofs from the Quran that he has left the matters of the universe at the hands of Ahlulbayt. I don’t want “are you denying that it is possible?”—this is not clear cut evidence. I can come around and say “is it possible he can make another Allah?”. Rather the Quran states that Allah is the controller of the affairs of the universe. He has no partners in this. 
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    zahralzu reacted to Cool in thoughts on raza of bayt al ghadeer adopting more sunni-centric beliefs?   
    Without reading the shia hadith, you want to be the reformist? 
    People will call you ignorant reformist who don't even know where to reform & what to reform, just because you don't read the hadith books. Or you just pick those ahadith which suits to your agenda, like salafi do? 
    Actually whatever he controlled was only because of the divine authority. What the Asif bin Barqia did was because of the divine authority & some knowledge of the book. 
    These are just mere examples of "divine authority".
    Regarding with the kingdom granted by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to the progeny of Ibrahim, the following verses are sufficient:
    أَمْ يَحْسُدُونَ النَّاسَ عَلَىٰ مَا آتَاهُمُ اللَّهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ ۖ فَقَدْ آتَيْنَا آلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَآتَيْنَاهُمْ مُلْكًا عَظِيمًا {54}
    [Shakir 4:54] Or do they envy the people for what Allah has given them of His grace? But indeed We have given to Ibrahim's children the Book and the wisdom, and We have given them a grand kingdom.
    See Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) not only has granted the children of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) "Mulkan Azeema" but also the "Mulkan Kabeera" as per 76:20. And He do grants the "haqq e tasarruf" when He grant someone something:
    هَٰذَا عَطَاؤُنَا فَامْنُنْ أَوْ أَمْسِكْ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍ {39}
    [Shakir 38:39] This is Our free gift, therefore give freely or withhold, without reckoning.
    Now go the last verse of Sura e Hajj quoted by me in the beginning and see the phrase "millata abikum Ibrahim":
    مِلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ ۚ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ وَفِي هَٰذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ
    22:78) the faith of your father Ibrahim; He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people;
    These are the Aal e Ibrahim, whom God has given the mulkan azeema & mulkan kabeera and have blessed them with the divine covenant we know as Imamate which would not reach to the zalimeen. 
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    zahralzu reacted to Cool in thoughts on raza of bayt al ghadeer adopting more sunni-centric beliefs?   
    Yes you often try to express youself like shias are mushrik, ghali etc. I just showed you the mirror, who you are! A witness over all believers? Wash your face thousand times and then think billions of time before making such claim. 
    You believe that this thing cannot happen. Allah cannot appoint someone for "Yudabbir ul Amr". 
    He has mentioned "Ulil Amr" to us. So managing the affair (mudabbirat e amra) is very small thing. He has presented before us examples of non-prophets & prophets in Quran. 
    So Prophet Sulayman (عليه السلام) ruled over what? Does winds were not made to serve him and obey his commands? Does Jinns not served him & obeyed his commands? And how powerful was the person Asif bin Barqiya who travelled hundreds of kilometers & brought the throne of queen in a blink of an eye. 
    Shaky??? How many should I quote? Here is another from Al-Kafi
    And from Abu Abdullah (عليه السلام) having said: ‘It was so that Ali.(عليه السلام) was frequently saying: 
    ‘There would not gather (from the Clan of) Al-Taymi (Abu Bakr) and (from the Clan of) Al-Adwy (Umar) in the presence of Rasool-Allahsaww and he (عليه السلام) recited: Surely We Revealed it [97:1] (Surah Al-Qadr) with humbleness and crying, so they would both be saying: ‘How intense is your soft-heartedness for this Chapter!’
    So Rasool-Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was saying: ‘(It is) due to what my eyes see, and my heart feels, and due to what the heart of this one would see from after me. So they were both saying, ‘What is that which your heart is seeing, and what is that which 
    his heart would see?’ He said: ‘So he wrote for them both in the sand: The Angels and the Spirit descend during it by Permission of their Lord, of every matter [97:4]’.
    He (عليه السلام) said: ‘Then he was saying: ‘Does there remain anything after Hisazwj Words: every matter?’ And they were both saying, ‘No’. So he (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was saying: ‘Do you two know who they descend upon with that?’ They were saying, ‘You, O Rasool-Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)!’ He was saying: ‘Yes’.
    So he was saying: ‘Would there happen to be a Night of Pre-determination (Laylat Al-Qadr) (to come) after me?’ So they both were saying, ‘Yes’. So he was saying: ‘So would that affair be descending during it?’ So they were saying, 
    ‘Yes’. So he was saying: ‘Unto whom?’ So they were saying, ‘We don’t know’. So he grabbed my head and he was saying: ‘If you don’t know, so know, it is this one, from after me’.
    He (عليه السلام) said: ‘So it was such that they both (the two from the Clans of Taymi and Adwy) recognised that night (Laylat Al-Qadr) from the intensity of what entered into 
    them from the awe. 
    (Al Kafi V 1 – The Book Of Divine Authority CH 41 H 5)
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    zahralzu reacted to Sumerian in Why do we say 'peace be upon you, oh prophet' in our prayer?   
    It is clear that they (عليه السلام) can hear us directly when are near their graves.
    What is also the belief of Shaykh Al-Mufid (rah) is that they recieve and are made aware of the munajaat of the Shi'a to them from afar.
    Which means we can do more than just send salams to them, we can actually conversate with them, which is what we do in our ziyaraat. 
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    zahralzu reacted to Tabassum Iman in Why do we say 'peace be upon you, oh prophet' in our prayer?   
    It could also mean that we should use the Duas from the Prophet (SAS) as he gave them to us, our Imams, the Holy Quran and Ahlul Bayt.
    As they know best how to say the correct words.
    I was taught that it is better to use the Duas that we were given in our Prayer Books and not to write our own, because we do not know how to approach Our Divine Lord. Our Prophet, Our Ahlul Bayt, Our Imams and Our Quran know best how to say things.
    And we can also ask Our Prophet for help whenever we need him. Ya Muhammed, My Beloved Prophet, Please help me!
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    zahralzu reacted to shia8 in Why do we say 'peace be upon you, oh prophet' in our prayer?   
    Well,even if he hears us when we do Tawassul or send Salawat,this doesn’t mean he’s all-hearing.
    All-Hearing means to hear everything,even very unimportant things.If someone says he hears Salawat,that’s because Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) makes him hear some things.
    I don’t know,whether the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) hears or is aware of our Salawats,but even if he hears them,this  doesn’t mean that he’s all-hearing.
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    zahralzu reacted to Sabrejet in Why do we say 'peace be upon you, oh prophet' in our prayer?   
    Hearing our salams != he's All-Hearing. Going by that logic, calling someone merciful means you are committing shirk, because only Allah is  Most Merciful. There's a subtle difference. I've seen this argument repeated hundreds of times on these forums, and each time, we have someone jumping straight to the "he hears means you are calling him All-Hearing" fallacy.
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    zahralzu reacted to Tabassum Iman in Why do we say 'peace be upon you, oh prophet' in our prayer?   
    As-salam alaykom,
    I will try to help you understand so that it is easy for you to ask your Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu alais wa Sallam for help.
    Let's say that Allah Ta'ala gave Prophet Muhammed (SAS) a Divinely made telephone system that his followers can use to call him for help.
    They call him using this system and he hears and responds with the help they have asked for. The Prophet Sallalahu alais wa Sallam is closer to the ground; He is closer to you and he, as an Intercessor, can Approach Our Divine Lord for us, as needed.
    It is the job of our Prophet to help us.
    Praising our Lord is something and asking for help or clarifying things is something else; this is where many get confused.
    Our DIVINE Lord works with His Prophets.
    Take this test:
    A.1 Imagine you are writing a story about your life as a Muslim. 
    Write every word as if Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala is watching and listening to you.
    Write some sentences....
    A.3 Imagine you are writing a story about your life as a Muslim.
    Write every word as if Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu alaihis wa Sallam is watching and listening to you.
    Write some sentences...
    Can you perceive the difference? Can you perceive how close Prophet Muhammed Sallalahu alais wa Sallam is to us?
    May Allah Ta'ala make it easy for you!
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    zahralzu reacted to Mahdavist in Why didn’t imam Ali (as) accept Abu sufyan’s offer in funding a war?   
    The purpose was not to fight over the caliphate. If the Imam (عليه السلام) did overthrow the sitting caliph then probably the masses would have followed him, in the same way they follow anyone who wields power. The same masses would then have followed whoever came along next. I fact history shows that the same muslimeen who passively ignored the nomination of Imam Ali (عليه السلام), eventually recognized him as their fourth caliph but also went on to recognize Muawiyah as a caliph after him.
    The point is that the masses are more submissive to power than to revelation.
    The objective was for muslimeen to follow the imam as a religious duty and not as a political convenience.
    In fact the majority of our aimmah never had an official political role, yet their imamate is not dependent on this and each of them had their companions and followers albeit in small numbers. 
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    zahralzu reacted to guest 2025 in Why didn’t imam Ali (as) accept Abu sufyan’s offer in funding a war?   
    When fighting Imam Ali would look into a person's progeny, and if there was one decent person in 7 generations he would spare him, if not he would kill him. I don't know what the specific reason was, but he is not juggling the same information we are because he was the second wisest man of all time and with that he had access to special information. 
    And as we know a lot of Imam Ali's soldiers were bottom of the barrel idiots who became the khawarij. And Imam Hussein was let down by the very people who invited him to lead them. Imam Ali knows how the cookie would have crumbled if he took that offer. He decided to lose a finger instead of a hand.
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    zahralzu reacted to elite in Imam Ali’s caliphate contradicts the Quran?   
    Meaning of “Is’takhlafa” in the verse 24.55
    Khalafa: He came after, followed, succeeded, or remained after, another, or another that had perished or died. 
    Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds he will surely make them to succeed on the earth just like he made those to succeed before them. He will most certainly establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them,  and that He will change for them after their fear in to the security. they will worship me, not they will associate with Me anything. But whoever disbelieves after that - then those are the defiantly disobedient.  24:55
     “Just like he made those to succeed before them”
    Only believers were lived on the earth after destroying the unjust people.They were  Nuh(عليه السلام) and his people , Hud(عليه السلام) and his people  (people of Aad) &  Salih(عليه السلام) and his people (people  of Thamud).
     Nuh(عليه السلام) and his people
    And We saved him and those with him in the laden ship.(26:119) Then We drowned thereafter the remaining ones.(26:120)
    And they denied him, so We saved him and those with him in the ship and made them to succeed (wa ja’alnahum Khalaifa), and We drowned those who denied Our signs. Then see how was the end of those who were warned. 10:73
     Hud(عليه السلام) and his people 
    So We saved him and those with him by mercy from Us. And We eliminated those who denied Our signs, and they were not [at all] believers. 7:72
    And remember when He made you successors (khulafa) after the people of Noah and increased you in stature extensively….7:69
    My Lord will make succeed (yastakhlifu) the people other than you…11:57
     Salih(عليه السلام) and his people
    So when Our command came, We saved Salih and those who believed with him, by mercy from Us, and [saved them] from the disgrace of that day. Indeed, it is your Lord who is the Powerful, the Exalted in Might.11:66
    And the rumbling overtook those who were unjust, so they became motionless bodies in their abodes,11:67
     Verse 24:55 states that there will be a time upon the earth that the  inhabitant of the earth will only be those  who are believers and work righteous deeds.
     “to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds”
     Who believe and work righteous deeds refers to  the group of people  having such a qualities  since the time of prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) till the time of qiyamat
     “Among you” refers to  Imam Mahdi(عليه السلام) and his people
     It is reported in the  Majma’ al-Bayan  that ‘Ayyashi reported from Ali ibn al-Husayn (عليه السلام) that when he recited the verse, he said: “By God these are our Shi’ites of Ahl al-Bayt , about whom God will fulfill his promises through a man from us, and he is the Mahdi of this Community, about whom the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said: ‘Even if there remains only one day on Earth, God will prolong it until He will bring forth a pious man from my progeny whose name is the same as my name and he will fill the earth with justice and equity as it was filled with oppression and tyranny.
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    zahralzu reacted to Ashvazdanghe in Imam Ali’s caliphate contradicts the Quran?   
    Salam the Irony of this Sunni claim is that they have tried to deny Imam Ali (as)' caliphate by using a narration  from one of supporters of Imam Ali (as)' caliphate which his name is written  with the red colr for showing  that he is main narrator of hadith. anyway before conquest of Mecca , all of muslims in Medina were in state of fear which even Medina is sieged by Kufar army during battle of Khandaq (Trench)which only bravery of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) leads to breaking of the siege so the prophecy have not fullfiled  yet.
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    zahralzu got a reaction from Ashvazdanghe in Imam Ali’s caliphate contradicts the Quran?   
    I wish this was a ‘joke’ but Sunnis claim they have hadiths that prove this verse was revealed addressing the companions directly and promising them specifically that they themselves will come to live in conditions such that the three promises are fulfilled, and this was revealed when the prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) first arrived on medina and the Muslims for the first time in over a decade felt religious liberties and peace. 

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    zahralzu reacted to Ali bin Hussein in Imam Ali’s caliphate contradicts the Quran?   
    What do you mean by security and safety ?
    Abu Bakar had the Ridda wars.
    Both Umar and Uthman were assassinated ?
    Rulers have problem to deal with. Not sure how this verse contradicts Imam Ali caliphate ?
    Imam Ali definitely ruled and definitely was at the forefront of establishing the religion.
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    zahralzu reacted to layman in Imam Ali’s caliphate contradicts the Quran?   
    It will happen once Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) takes over the whole world and establish both Imamat and Khalifat (selected by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and elected by people).
    Right after the wafat, majority of muslim ummah deviated from the belief (that Prophet has taught) and didn't do good enough to support Imam Ali as Wali.
    So muslims has to wait to be successors on the land.
    Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will keep his promise even the world has one more day before total destruction.  Only the ummah not keeping up with the religion brought through the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).
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    zahralzu reacted to Abu Hadi in Imam Ali’s caliphate contradicts the Quran?   
    Is your 'tafsir' of this ayat for real or is this a joke ? 
    1. There are verses in the Quran that have general meanings and specific meanings. This one has a general meaning, since there is no specific time and no specific 'group' of believers. So how you tie this to Imam Ali((عليه السلام)) or any of the other Caliphs, well I'm not quite sure how you do that, since you haven't presented any evidence that this ayat is referring specifically to this particular time period or group of individuals. That is the first problem. 
    2. As others have said, none of the Caliphs had rulership, establishment of religion, or safety in a total and complete sense, as this ayat is referring to. Many wars were fought and many muslims died during the Caliphs of all above. Umar and Uthman were assasinated. The religion was not established (in the absolute sense this ayat is talking about) since muslims were still divided into factions (some supporting Imam Ali((عليه السلام)) and some supporting the usurpers). There was rampant corruption under the Caliphate of Uthman, so much so that the people revolted against him and killed him. So you would need to 'whitewash' and overlook alot to say there was 'rulership of the land', 'establishment of religion', or 'security and safety' during any period Islamic History up until the present day. 
    3. Many muslims believe that this ayat is referring to the time where Imam Mahdi(a.f.s) establishes his rule. This is because of the hadith accepted by Muslims, in general, from Rasoulallah(p.b.u.h), 'The world will not end until a man from my lineage rises up to establish peace and justice on the earth whereas before it was filled with injustice and tyranny'. We, the Shia, know this man as the son of Imam Hassan Al Askari((عليه السلام)), the eleventh Imam of Ahl Al Bayt((عليه السلام)), Imam Zaman(a.f.s), may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) hasten his reappearance. 
    I have never heard of anyone (up to this point) use this ayat to refer to the time of the first 3 or to the Caliphate of Imam Ali((عليه السلام)). 
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    zahralzu reacted to Zaydi Shiapard in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    Muawiyah's general Busr ibn Abi Artaat ordering the rape of Muslim women, Muawiyah ordering to curse Imam Ali (عليه السلام)., Muawiyah ordering the murder of Hujr ibn Adi (رضي الله عنه). and other companions of Imam Ali (عليه السلام)., Muawiyah forcing people on the sword's tip to make obeisance to Yazid etc. (all mentioned by Sunni scholar Mawdudi in his Khilafat o Mulookiyat), and still he is not a tyrant, rather a paragon of leadership. Why? Because MAL's imam Malik ibn Anas loves him and criticizes Imam Ali (عليه السلام).
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    zahralzu reacted to Eddie Mecca in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    I honestly believe if everyone would have stood aside and let Imam Ali (a) and subsequent Imams (a) rule their way from the get-go and without hinderance Muslims would be 75 - 85% of world population now instead of 25%...people would have seen the inner and outer beauty of Islam and naturally been attracted to it...Islam was running at 10% maximum capacity under the ugly rule of the Umayyads...Islam grew despite Umayyad rule and not because of it...you can't mess up the caliphate, stir insurrection, kill Uthman, cause a civil war and then toss Ali (a) the broken pieces and expect him to mend Humpty Dumpty back together and blame him for not being an effective ruler...Imam Ali's (a) era was filled with social strife, inhouse intrigue and political turbulence...Abu Bakr and Umar's respective reigns were relatively peaceful (except for Ridda wars) and more accommodating for expanding the borders of the Islamic State
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    zahralzu reacted to AbdusSibtayn in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    This is not surprising. Orientalist 'scholars' for more than a generation now have been arguing this (Stephen Humphreys, for example, who is a well known Umayyad apologist within the historiography of early Islam). MALM has simply echoed their views.
    Which, given his materialist worldview, rooted in European Enlightenment Rationalism, is only to be expected.
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    zahralzu reacted to Eddie Mecca in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    Land acquisition, savy political maneuvering, material ambition etc. makes you feel good initially...but when it's completely devoid of spirituality and inner substance...fast-forward a thousand years when the masses mistakenly realize that the entire concept of God and religion is a sham and begin to look inwardly with self doubt from a civilizational standpoint and the whole thing crumbles...best to avoid hipster modernist YouTube personalities unless it's strictly for entertainment purposes...his diabolical laugh and goth appearance alone should be enough to disqualify him from serious dialogue.
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    zahralzu reacted to Ali bin Hussein in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    MAL has a very materialistic world view. So he can appreciate Muawiya I mean from a worldy no moral.point of view Trump is great at what he does.
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    zahralzu reacted to Ashvazdanghe in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
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    zahralzu reacted to BleedKnee in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    Mufti Abu Layth strikes me as a man that appreciates materialism. His rejection over the second coming of Jesus (عليه السلام) and the virgin birth perfectly illustrates that. I think this is generally the case within educated Sunni circles. There's an affinity to material power and seeing everyone as individual selfish actors (like within the classical liberal paradigm). 
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    zahralzu reacted to Mahdavist in Thoughts on MALM comparing imam ali (as) to muwayah?   
    As @786:) has indicated, this trend of jumping onto the bandwagon when someone says something you like, only to jump off when they express an unfavourable opinion, is rather inconsistent. 
    Moving onto his comment, like most others here I imagine, I don't agree with what he says. Tricking, bribing and deceiving your way into power is a very short term approach to politics and governance. 
    What he sees as political astuteness or sharpness is in my view an unethical and unsustainable model of governance. It is no surprise that Bani Umayyah crumbled some generations later. 
    The model of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) was based on principles rather than popularity and is something that everyone can respect and relate to even centuries later. 
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    zahralzu reacted to Soldiers and Saffron in Are there disproportionately more Shias apostasing than Sunnis?   
    In my opinion and to my understanding there are some reasons which might explain why some people would come to such a conclusion that there are more shias leaving the religion than sunnis. Even if I do not technically consider it true.
    If we look at which countries that has had the most refugees in recent times from the ME, those countries hold a moderate amount of shias. Such as Iraq and Afghanistan(hazaras).
    To most people in the ME, in my own opinion, their religion is more cultural and a product of their environment than true faith acquired through intellectual research and reflection. When such a person is removed from their culture and environment it is only a matter of time before they "leave" their religion, but in my opinion they did not have a religion to begin with.
    As far as Iranians go, we also have to look at history to get the context:
    Iran is a shia country, for religious people it is less motivated to leave the country. For irreligious people, it is more motivated to leave the country. Having said that, we should also consider that Iran has had two "waves" of refugees, one happened during the Islamic revolution and its aftermath, these people usually hate Islam (and arabs in general). One happened due to the Iran-Iraq war, these people are mixed.
    I think people who have true faith in their religion are very few in the world, regardless of what religion they claim to believe in. As a muslim it makes me sad to see people leave Islam whether they are sunnis or shias and even if their faith in God was a product of their culture and environment, it was still better than the worshiping of secularism and the atheism that usually follows when you take them out of that environment and they subsequently leave their culture for the new one.
    Lack of faith in ones religion usually results in the corruption of ones actions stemming from a lack of taqwa and the ME has plenty of that, whether its the sunni countries or the shia countries. All it takes for these people to officially leave their religion is a quick change of scenery. 
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