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In the Name of God بسم الله


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  1. I hadn't ever heard of the Clementine Homilies so thank you for telling me about them. They sound very interesting. I'll be sure to look into them. One concern I have, though, is that I do not believe those Homilies are the Word of God. I do believe the Gospels to be the Word of God. What, in your view, makes the Homilies authoritative enough to take precedence over the Gospels?
  2. Thank you for your explanation. That's really interesting. I have a couple questions: 1. Are you saying that Allah does not want everyone to have one religion? Isn't it very important that everyone follow the true God? 2. Does Allah not care about communicating clearly to His people? And finally, I believe that the Torah was not corrupted, but the Jews were misusing and misunderstanding it. The Word of God in the Old Testament has also been preserved. Jesus came not to abolish the law and the prophets but to fulfill them.
  3. 1. Your first point sums up well the difference in our beliefs. I can find plenty of evidence in the Bible that the Holy Spirit and Jesus are not created, but are, in fact, divine (John 1:1-5, John 14:7-10 and many more). The Qur'an disagrees on that point. The argument then would turn to the validity of each of our Scriptures. 2. Jesus over and over allowed people to worship Him (Matthew 14:33, Matthew 2:11, John 9:38, Luke 24:52, Matthew 28:9, John 20:28, etc.) 3. Again, not only raising the dead, but many other aspects of Jesus' life, including the ones listed above, make him v
  4. I also believe that Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets and not abolish them. I guess my question is how you can trust one part of gospels and the Torah and throw out other parts as being corrupted. Couldn't that easily result in people taking verses out of context and/or picking and choosing to support their own opinion?
  5. I am more than willing to explain why I believe in the Trinity. First off, however, I'd love to clarify some common ground between us. I believe in one God, holy, omnipotent, totally separate from His creation. He is eternal and set apart. He is just, merciful, and loving. On this I think we can agree. One helpful way to look at the Trinity is this: I believe in God, his Word, and his Spirit. None of these things existed before the others, none created the others, and none is separate from the others, but each is distinct. Both the Qur'an and the Bible teach that Jesus is the
  6. If, as you say, the gospels have been corrupted, how do you know which parts are truthful?
  7. Ok, I think I see the difference in our standpoints. I believe that God preserves his Word, and has sent it not just to one people, but to the whole world. That is why the Bible is still the Word of God when translated into many different languages. More importantly, though, if Allah is all-powerful and people are mere creations, how is the creation powerful enough to change the Word of God? Would Allah not protect and preserve His Word?
  8. Thank you for your explanation. It is very helpful!
  9. Qur’an 2:136 “Say ye: ‘We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).’” Qur'an 3:3-4 "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe puni
  10. That's very interesting. I guess the question would be then why Isa talks about the Holy Spirit as a person separate from himself: "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever—the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you do know Him, for He abides with you and will be in you." John 14:16-17.
  11. I definitely agree that the Holy Spirit is a gift from God. He is so gracious as to give us his Spirit when we put our faith in Christ. I also agree that the Holy Spirit gives power and imparts strength to God's followers. I believe that Proverbs 8 is talking about the wisdom of God personified, and not the Spirit. For evidence of the Spirit at work in creation, you just have to look at Genesis 1:1-2: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the
  12. I totally agree. That's why I believe that the Holy Spirit is God.
  13. So is the Spirit Allah's Spirit, or just a higher angel?
  14. That's really interesting. Why does the angel Gabriel talk about the Holy Spirit as if he is a different person? "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)
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