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Dave follower of The Way

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  1. When I read the Qur'an and compare it with the Bible, I am unable to say that the teaching of the Qur'an and the previous books are the same. I see marked differnces in the understanding of God, humanity and how God deals with people. I don't see Paul as a person who "turned Jesus into a divine figure". I see the New Testament as teaching and accounts of people, more than just Paul, who were struggelling to understand and explain the life, teaching, death and resurection of Jesus within a strictly monotheistic Jewish context. When they looked at Jesus and what he did and said they were
  2. Hello friends The verses mentioned at the begining Qur'an 5:43 and 47 indicate to me that at the time the verses were written there were authentic Torah and Injil available to the Jews and Christians of Medina to go to and read and find the truth about how God wanted them to live. So I go along with @placid and agree that if Jews and Christians lived according to the teaching of their own books they would be living lives that pleased God and that benifited their communities and humanity. As a Follower of Jesus, I need to confess that through the ages, and even today, many people who
  3. Hey this is a dangerous comment! Who are you to say a person does or does not deserve eternal punishment or Paradise? It sounds like you are putting yourself in God's place as judge over humans. What criteria are you using to make that call?
  4. As a Follower of Jesus, am I allowed to comment when the question is asking for an Islamic interpretation? This passage in John chapter 17 is part of the prayer of Jesus the Messiah before he was crucified. He knows his time has come to die verse 1 (The hour has come) and that in doing that he will "finish the work" God gave him to do (verse 4). His death on the cross will bring glory to God because, as verse 2 says, it will open a way for Jesus the Messiah to offer eternal life to those who come to him. For you granted him (Jesus) authority over all people that he (Jesus) might
  5. How can God have favourites? He is unbiased and without prejudice. Favouritism is a weakness and leads to untold injustice and pain, completely inappropriate of God. Levels and rewards are not a consequence of favouritism they are the outcome of what a person does with the overflowing generosity and grace of God offered to them. If we go down the road of saying God doesn't love everyone, we are left with a very big and awkward question. Who does God love? resulting in the next question "does he love me and my community". If we are not able to receive God's love because he has c
  6. What kind of Good and rightious being would worship himself. Isn't that the worst kind of pride and narcissism? I don't believe the reason God created people was so that he would be worshiped. Again that is an egoistic action unworthy of a pure God. People were made to enjoy a friendship and intimacy with God. Our worship of him is the natural response of the creature to the creator. It is a consiquence not a purpose.
  7. I'm reading a book and it talks about the Christian view of God and describes God using four words: Loving, Holy, Forgiving and Joyful. What do you think - does this adiquatly describe God? What do you think of these words - do they describe your experience of God?
  8. Thanks Dragon for your response. You are right in seeing that God God expects 100% in the exam of righteiousness and good deeds. So, in reallity we all fail. God's justice sets a consiquence for this failour and we will all have to experience it unless the Just Judge does something. The Just Judge Himself dealt with our failour, offering us a new start with His own power living within us. Those in heaven will be those who have been transformed by God's powerful Spirit into people who live to please him. There is no room in God's pure presence for "people killing each other".
  9. Thanks - It seems if one desn't contribute each day you get left behind! I understand your division between God's mercy for all and love for some. Yes God is merciful to all - he provides the sun and rain, life and breath, beauty and wonder. Without him the universe would cease. I believe He also offers a close intimate relationship with himself to all - free and without condition. That brings us to the second area. I belive that thouse who accept and take advantage of the free offer of transformation, new life enter a living relationship with God. They become members of his
  10. I've just read through this thread quickly and maybe not understood everything but I think the idea of God being a person or personal is going the wrong way. It seems that the arguments are trying to define God's "personhood" by using the idea of human "personhood". I suggest that we should go the other way round and look at God first. The creation account in Genesis reports the following Genesis chapter 1 God said “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild anima
  11. It seems that this idea of God is love has opened a can of worms!!! God loves everyone whoever they are and whatever they do. His love is unlimited and his showing of love is not restricted. However this does not mean that he loves the evil things we do. Yes God loves Yazid just as he loves me and you because we are all people made in his image. But the evil that you and I do along with the evil that Yazid did is not something that God loves or afferms. Because his love is boundless and unlimited he wants us to turn from our evil ways and receive his loving gracious forgivne
  12. Does non duality exist? We only know up because of down, we only understand fast because there is slow. We can only define evil because we recognise good Maybe we can say that God is the unltimate reality because he is non-dual. He is the one God. From him eminates love without hate, Justice without prejudice, Truth without falsehood. He alone is worthy of worship, honour and service because everything else is mared by duality. Have I made sense??????
  13. Okay ..... Yes Jesus The Messiah intercedes for those who are part of his kingdom See Hebrews 7:24&25 but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. 1 Timothy 2:3 This is good, and pleases God our Saviour, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witn
  14. Yep we only have one life but it doesn't end at death it continues through to a new dimension. Death and the fear of death have been defeted by the resurrection of Jesus the Messiah from the dead. But this life is it really so grot? Yes there are hard things like disease and oppression, but when you walk with God beside you he is your comfort and director. He helps me to understand the things that happen to me. He stregthens me in hardships and rejoices with me when the sun shines. Can I be as bold as to quote from the Prophet David who had his share of hard times. In Psalms (Zeb
  15. All this philosophy blows my mind. I'm afraid I'm just a simple person - I get up in the morning, go out of the front door, come home and have dinner then go to bed. I don't think all this thinking about freedom and cause and effect and eternal choices makes a vast difference to the way we live our lives - it's all hot air. It makes us feel good because we can have an "intellectual" discussion using long complicated words and mind bending hypothesis. I'm sure we all, to some degree or other, believe God exists and in a way we can't understand he is involved with his creation
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