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  1. This means that probability emerges from reality. For instance, Existence is a reality, a necessary thing but that becomes possible at some point. Our journey is from uncertainty (possibility) to certainty (reality). Happening has nothing to do with certainty rather consciousness has something to do with certainty. For instance, are you certain that your life will continue to the next hour? Continuation of life to the next hour is what you understand as "happening". So unless "Consciousness" is not there, there will be no certainty whatsoever. So lets suppose, you are uncertain about the continuation of your life for the next hour, and you died after an hour. How would you become certain that you are dead? What would be the worth of someone's certainty if you remain uncertain about yourself? You must have died in certainty because one name of death is certainty. And that is only possible if you witness your own death and see your dead body too after your death. Means your consciousness must be there to become certain of your death. While your statement "everything happens with certainty" demands the continuous presence of consciousness everywhere, where something is happening. If there is no possibility, can the reality be ever known?
  2. Why you have placed three things in your question? Is there any difference between "you" & "nafs" in your mind?
  3. I want to know what is the surprise for you here? The secret birth of Imam of our time or his occultation? As for his secret birth, this should be not a surprise for those who are attached with Quran and history. Ibn Atheer al Jazari whilst writing on the life of Prophet Ibrahim ((عليه السلام)): دخلت السنة التي ذكروا حبس نمرود الحبالى عنده إلا أم ابراهيم فإنه لم يعلم بحبلها لأنه لم يظهر عليها أثره، فذبح كل غلام ولد في ذلك الوقت، فلما وجدت أم ابراهيم الطلق خرجت ليلا الى مغارة وكانت قريبة منها فولدت “In the year that the Courtiers had referred to, Nimrod ordered that intelligence be kept upon all pregnant women, but no information was ascertained on the mother of Prophet Ibrahim ((عليه السلام)), as they had no knowledge that she was pregnant, she portrayed no [outward] signs of pregnancy. At that time whichever boy was born was executed by Nimrod, when the mother of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) began to feel labour pains, she went into a cave at night, that was nearby and Ibrahim was born…” Tareekh Kamil, Volume 1 page 31 We also know that, during the time that Prophet Musa ((عليه السلام)) was born, Pharoah saw a dream, and his courtiers also advised him that a child would be born from the Banu Isra'il, a child that would end his reign. Applying the policy of Nimrod, Pharoah issued an edict that all new born babies were to be killed. Furthermore, spies would enter homes and touch the stomachs of women to determine whether on not they were pregnant. If a woman was pregnant, the order was to murder the unborn child. Yet Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) made the pregnancy of the mother of Musa (عليه السلام) a secret, so much so that her midwife had no knowledge of this pregnancy. On this issue the comments of Ibn Kathir are of interest: فلما حملت أم موسى به، عليه السلام، لم يظهر عليها مخايل الحمل كغيرها، ولم تفطن لها الدايات “When the mother of Musa (عليه السلام) fell pregnant, she did not portray the signs of pregnancy that are present in other women, and the midwives were unable to ascertain that she was pregnant”. Tafseer Ibn Katheer Volume 3 page 380, Surah Qasas, Verse 7
  4. This is exactly what nawasibs say. I am surprised to see you are using the same argument. So lets first settle the case of Ja'far al-kadhab (assuming that it might be your source): "So the ark floated with them on the waves, towering like mountains. And noah called out to his son, who had separated himself from the rest: “O my son! Embark with us, and be not with the Unbelievers!” The son replied: “I will betake myself to some mountain. It will save me from the water.” Noah said: “This day nothing can save from the Command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy!” And the waves came between them, and the son was overwhelmed in the flood. Then the word came forth: “O earth! Swallow up thy water, and withhold thy rain!’ And the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: “Away with those who do wrong!” And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: “O my Lord! Surely my son is from my family! (ahli), and Thy promise is true. And thou art the Justest of Judges.” He [Allah] said: “O Noah: He is not of thine family; for his conduct is unrighteous.” (11:42-46) These verses establish that the mere fact of possessing a physical lineage to a Prophet does not establish infallibility, or that one has been purified in the same way as that Prophet. As such, Ja’far al-Kadhab’s lineage to the Prophet (s) means nothing here. A person may have such lineage and be thoroughly evil, and Ja’far al-Kadhab was one such person. The fact that he did not know about the birth of Imam al-Mehdi (عليه السلام) does not indicate that Imam al-Mehdi (عليه السلام) was not born; rather, it is a sign that, because of Jafar’s impiety, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) kept this birth a secret from Ja’far, as He (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) kept it a secret from the ruling Abbasid dynasty. Factors such as the lack of knowledge, the character of pathetic people, and the ill intentions of the ruling class, lead to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) keeping the birth of his representative a secret. Usul-e-Kafi carries a tradition on this: To the ruler, Imam Abu Muhammad ((عليه السلام)) died without bearing a son. He distributed the Imam’s (as)’s property, and the people who did not deserve it, took it. The ruler is looking for him, every where people are running around asking for him. No one should be associated with them, or tell them anything. The name you are asking, if told, the search would become easier. Therefore, be afraid of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and don’t ask about the name of the Imam (عليه السلام). Usul alKafi, Volume 1 page 330 Shaykh Majlesi decalred it Sahih in Mirat al-Uqool, Volume 4 page 5 Though with a weak chain, there is another tradition which states: Ali-bin-Qais narrates from a military policeman that even I have seen Seema (slave of Jafar) in Serman Rai; he broke the door of Imam Hasan AlAskari’s (as)’s house. A man appeared from inside with an axe in his hand. The man asked Seema, what are you doing at my house? Seema replied Jafar thinks that your father (عليه السلام) died without giving birth to any children, but if this house was yours, then I should return. Saying that, Seema left the house. Ali-bin-Qais says that immediately after this, one of the servants came to us, and I asked him about this. He asked me, ‘who told you about this?’ to which I replied that a military police man told me, the servant replied, pretty soon, nothing shall remain secret from anyone. Usul alKafi, Volume 1 pages 331-332 These two narrations contradict the narration that is used by Nawasibs, and proves that individuals such as Ja’far al-Kadhab are liars and deceivers. This narration’s serve as evidence that Jafar’s narration was wrong, since he was a puppet in the hands of the Abbasid rulers and wanted to divide the Shi’a.
  5. Imam al-Sajjad ((عليه السلام)) said:

    “The light of the Imam in the hearts of the faithful is more brilliant than that of the brilliant day star.”
    Al-Kafi, vol. 1, p. 276.

  6. Imam al-Sajjad ((عليه السلام)) said: “The light of the Imam in the hearts of the faithful is more brilliant than that of the brilliant day star.” Al-Kafi, vol. 1, p. 276.
  7. I can see assumptions all over this one. a) Satan was a Jinn-e-Kamil. b) He was very near to God. These are totally wrong. If he would have attained the "Kamal" (Perfection), he would have not made the mistake of disobeying God's command. Does worship (a mere exercise) has anything to do with purification? Munafiqeen worship throughout their lives, Khawarij were famous for their abundance of prayers & fastings. Why God has allowed Prophets & Imams to guide us? Is it like giving an exam? Where are the examiner? Are there angels watching on you that if you tried to cheat, they will through you out of the examination hall? So if this life is test, but test of what? a) Are you true in your words or not. Do you really mean what you testify? "O God! we worship only you" Are you really true in this statement? "There is no one worthy of worship except Allah", Do we remained steadfast with this claim? b) There may be different ways to do an act. Which one of us has performed act in a best manner & Which one of us has performed best of the deeds! You know most of the misguided ones assumes themselves as they are the guided ones. No body wants misguidance here. Everyone wants guidance whether it is guidance from Truth Almighty or guidance from Falsehood (Shaytan). And it has been clearly pointed out by God that look Satan is your clear enemy! so take him as your enemy. Don't take him as your guide. He has provided the door of repentance for everyone to return to Him, to take back Him as guide whenever one realizes that he has wronged himself. So Hurr (عليه السلام) was from among the forces of Yazid before the night of Ashura. He realized, repented and finally taken God as his guide by strongly grasping the urwatul wuthqa. I don't want to get involved in that story. بَلِ اللّهُ يُزَكِّي مَن يَشَاء If you just focus on the outcome, you will get the guidance. What happened in the end? God chosed him & taught Adam (عليه السلام) the words, for repentance, guided him. 20:121 Then they both ate of it, so their evil inclinations became manifest to them, and they both began to cover themselves with leaves of the garden, and Adam disobeyed his Lord, so his life became evil (to him). 20:122 Then his Lord chose him, so He turned to him and guided (him) 2:37 Thereupon Adam received words [of guidance] from his Sustainer, and He accepted his repentance: for, verily, He alone is the-Acceptor of Repentance, the Dispenser of Grace. What is the purpose of creating mankind? To worship God in true letter & spirit. Satan (every lie & every falsehood) fits into the purpose of creation for two main reasons: a) To provide for mankind teachings, guidance & repentance as you have seen from the case of Prophet Adam (عليه السلام). b) The following verses as shared by brother earlier on this thread. We would not know whether we are truthful or not, if there is no Satan.
  8. Why we only need to follow A Mujtahid? Why not we follow many mujtahideen at the same time? Or why not we take opinions from many scholars & act on the one which looks good to us?
  9. Perhaps you can explain to me the difference between "Taoubah" & "Toubatan Nasooha".
  10. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grant us the toufeeq of "Toubatan Nasooha". ( تَوْبَةً نَصُوحًا)
  11. Stoning to death itself is another ijtihad. He deemed mut'ah as zina.
  12. Hadith of Sahih Muslim is quoted above Can you read his words: فَلَنْ أُوتَى بِرَجُلٍ نَكَحَ امْرَأَةً إِلَى أَجَلٍ إِلاَّ رَجَمْتُهُ بِالْحِجَارَةِ And any person would come to me with a marriage of appointed duration (Mut'a), I would stone him (to death). Both the texts are taken from your source i.e., https://muflihun.com/muslim/7/2801
  13. فَلَنْ أُوتَى بِرَجُلٍ نَكَحَ امْرَأَةً إِلَى أَجَلٍ إِلاَّ رَجَمْتُهُ بِالْحِجَارَةِ ‏ And any person would come to me with a marriage of appointed duration (Mut'a), I would stone him (to death).
  14. حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، وَابْنُ، بَشَّارٍ قَالَ ابْنُ الْمُثَنَّى حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ قَتَادَةَ، يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ أَبِي نَضْرَةَ، قَالَ كَانَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ يَأْمُرُ بِالْمُتْعَةِ وَكَانَ ابْنُ الزُّبَيْرِ يَنْهَى عَنْهَا قَالَ فَذَكَرْتُ ذَلِكَ لِجَابِرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ فَقَالَ عَلَى يَدَىَّ دَارَ الْحَدِيثُ تَمَتَّعْنَا مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏.‏ فَلَمَّا قَامَ عُمَرُ قَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ يُحِلُّ لِرَسُولِهِ مَا شَاءَ بِمَا شَاءَ وَإِنَّ الْقُرْآنَ قَدْ نَزَلَ مَنَازِلَهُ فَأَتِمُّوا الْحَجَّ وَالْعُمْرَةَ لِلَّهِ كَمَا أَمَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ وَأَبِتُّوا نِكَاحَ هَذِهِ النِّسَاءِ فَلَنْ أُوتَى بِرَجُلٍ نَكَحَ امْرَأَةً إِلَى أَجَلٍ إِلاَّ رَجَمْتُهُ بِالْحِجَارَةِ ‏.‏ This is the Arabic text of hadith, now see the english translation: Abu Nadra reported: Ibn'Abbas commanded the performance of Mut'a putting lhram for 'Umra during the months of Dhu'I-Hijja and after completing it. then putting on Ibrim for Hajj), but Ibn Zubair forbade to do it. I made a mention of it to Jabir b. Abdullih and he said: It is through me that this hadith has been circulated. We entered into the state of Ihram as Tamattu' with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. When 'Umar was Installed as Caliph, he said: Verily Allah made permissible for His Messenger ﷺ whatever He liked and as Re liked. And (every command) of the Holy Qur'an has been revealed for every occasion. So accomplish Hajj and Umra for Allah as Allah has commanded you; and confirm by (proper conditions) the marriage of those women (with whom you have performed Mut'a). And any person would come to me with a marriage of appointed duration (Mut'a), I would stone him (to death). Qatada narrated this hadith with the same chain of transmitters saying: (That 'Umar also said): Separate your Hajj from 'Umra, for that is the most complete Hajj, and complete your Umra. https://muflihun.com/muslim/7/2801 From a shia source: Abu Nadhra said: Ibn Abbas commanded to do Mut’a while Ibn Zubair forbade to do it. I mentioned this to Jabir Ibn Abdillah and he said: It is through me that this Hadith has been circulated. We did Mut’a (of Hajj and women) at the time of the Messenger of Allah. When Umar was installed as Caliph, he said: Verily Allah made permissible for his Messenger whatever He like and as He liked. And its command was revealed in Qur’an. Thus accomplish Hajj and Umra for Allah as Allah has commanded you, and confirm (by reverting to permanent marriage) the marriages of those women (with whom you have performed Mut’a). And any person would come to me with a marriage of appointed duration (i.e. Mut’a) I would stone him.
  15. Was he unaware of the verse of Quran (Surah al Maida verse 5) too?
  16. So you need more. Now understand the link:
  17. If this is not sufficient, here is another: Perhaps you need more, here we go: Do you want more?
  18. I don't know why you are rejecting Umar's own testimony. Here are few ahadith: If you say ibn Abbas was not there in Khyber, here is another:
  19. I have just edited my comment to add more material to it. I am expecting that you perhaps would like to edit your comment too.
  20. I would like to add one more of his wrong ijtihid. Surah Talaq of the Quran stipulates that there is no such thing as an impromptu triple divorce at one instance, rather the recital must take place over tree periods (Al-Qur’an Surah 65, verse 1), yet Khalifa Umar ruled that his subjects could divorce their wives by uttering the divorce recital in triplicate on one occasion. Interestingly his ijtihad never stopped here, he did away with the need of witnesses altogether, he entitled a man to utter the divorce immediately, without the need for a time to reflect or summon witnesses. But the verse 1 of Surah Talaq states that the final divorce must be made before two just witness. Want to see more ijtihad , He ruled that Tayamum cannot be performed as an alternative to water, and was unconvinced by the testimony of the Sahabi Ammar ibn Yasir (Sahih Muslim Book 003, Number 0718) even though an entire verse on Tayamum is in Surah al Maida verse 5.
  21. وَالْمُحْصَنَاتُ مِنَ النِّسَاءِ إِلَّا مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ ۖ كِتَابَ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ ۚ وَأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ مَا وَرَاءَ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَنْ تَبْتَغُوا بِأَمْوَالِكُمْ مُحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحِينَ ۚ فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً ۚ وَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَاضَيْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْ بَعْدِ الْفَرِيضَةِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا {24} [Shakir 4:24] And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) Allah's ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing, Wise. [Pickthal 4:24] And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise. [Yusufali 4:24] Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise. Tafseer Agha Mehdi Poya: Muhsanat means well-guarded or protected. They are married women (free and slave), minors and insane females. "Save those whom your right hands own" signifies "such married women as shall come in your possession as prisoners of war". Such women, when not taken back on payment of ransom or through negotiation, are lawful as wives, even though their previous marriage has not been formally dissolved, provided the infidel woman becomes a Muslim. Famastamta-tum bihi provides for a temporary marriage, known as muta. It has been specifically made lawful by the Quran and the Holy Prophet, therefore, this provision subsists as unrescinded. One day, for no reason at all, and having no authority to amend a law given and practiced by the Holy Prophet, the second caliph declared from the pulpit: "Two mutas (temporary marriage and combining hajj with umra) were in force during the time of the Holy Prophet, but now I decree both of them as unlawful; and I will punish those who practise them." (Tafsir Kabir, Durr al-Manthur, Kashshaf, Mustadrak and others). According to Tirmidhi even his son, Ibn Umar, refused to agree with his father's action because it was made lawful by Allah and His Prophet, whose pronouncements could never be revoked by any one after him. Therefore the Shia school of thought (Islam-original) holds both the mutas lawful. Ali ibn abi Talib reversed the uncalled-for innovation of the second caliph, and thereafter it was never again prohibited.
  22. Not only He has mentioned them "directly" (not by their names) but also have quoted their words too in Qur'an. Who said "We belongs to God & to Him shall we return" as quoted by God in Quran by stating "Qalu"? Verse 22:78 specifically mentioning them. (مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ) Someone would say "millat" here means religion & this verse is mentioning Muslims in general, in that case the problem would arise in the phrase "لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاء عَلَى النَّاسِ" (that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people).
  23. There is a verse in Quran: "God & His Angels bless the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)" (33:56), do you have any estimate how many times do they bless? How many seconds/minutes/hours they bless? So that I can keep myself within limits. And there is another verse in Quran which says: وَرَفَعْنَا لَكَ ذِكْرَكَ (94:4 Do you have any idea of how much did Allah "raised high" his reputation/remembrance/dignity? So that I can maintain those limits. I am just trying to understand your concept of "over-glorifying". Ok, We Understand God as our "Mowla". What if God makes someone our "Mowla" and command us to believe in that? Only God is your Wali And His Messenger And Those who believe Those who keep-up/establish prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. (5:55) We believe God gives life & takes the soul. What if He gives someone the authority to give life, cause death, cure the diseases etc on His behalf or on His name?
  24. No. ghayb is not certitude. Certitude at one stage (Ayn Al-Yaqeen),help one to actually see the unseen like seeing the light of the flames of a fire, after having merely heard a description of that fire. The highest level of certitude I know is called "Haqq ul Yaqeen" (Truth of Certainty), which for instance, is like being consumed by the flames of that blazing fire. Things which we know as ghayb, can be accessed via 1. Knowledge of certainty 2. Eye of certainty 3. Truth of certainty As Quran states "Nay! if you had known with a certain knowledge (ilm al yaqeen), You should most certainly have seen the hell. Then you shall most certainly see it with the eye of certainty (ayn al yaqeen)" (102:5-7).
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