shirk in General Islamic Discussion Posted Friday at 09:03 PM · Report reply 25 minutes ago, Mahdavist said: I never said so, I simply said that we have been taught how to supplicate by our aimmah (عليه السلام). For sure, I hope that I am granted the intercession of the prophet and his family (peace be upon them all) Well, if you don't say then, it's alright. 25 minutes ago, Mahdavist said: No. Where are you getting these statements from? I thought that you believe that when we say "Ya Ali Madad", we believe "Ali as deity" that's not the case we say it with intention of "intercession". 28 minutes ago, Mahdavist said: Actually you were the one who brought forward the example as some kind of proof. I just corrected your mistranslation of the expression in Arabic (apparently you thought it meant 'Oh Muhammad') Well, you win here. But I wasn't wrong that they said it with the intention that Prophet may make dua to console their hearts, so either way taking names as intercession is not wrong. I hope we agree now. There is no need to fight. I think.