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IbnAhmed56

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  1. For ex Sunnis, how was your life like after becoming Shia. Did you have to do taqqiyah? Where there ever times you feared for your life? What were the reactions of your friends and families when you eventually came out.
  2. @Diaz right. From the start they lie to us. Telling us that Shia believe Ali (عليه السلام)was supposed to be the Prophet and not Muhammad (sawa). If the Shias are misguided? Whats the point of making up false information about their beliefs?
  3. Since I have accepted the guidance of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) I have found it strange how our brothers from ahlu sunnah accuse us of taqqiya. In reality the basis of ahlu sunnah is taqqiya. Umar threatning to burn Fatima az Zahra (عليه السلام) house is in multiple Sunni books, he even threatens to kill al zubayr. They accuse us of believing the Qur'an is tampered because of weak hadith but in bukhari there is literally a hadith that says a goat ate copies of the Qur'an! And Umar confirms it himself. In all of years of going to the mosque and madras, not once did I hear of hadith taqlayn. All I ever heard is Qur'an and sunnah Qur'an and sunnah Qur'an and sunnah Qur'an and sunnah. Which oddly enough is only found in maliks muwatta and wasnt recorded by bukhari Muslim ir the other four major hadith collectors, so why is this one hadith being mentioned yet Ahlul Bayt not mentioned at all? And do you really believe the Prophet meant friend when he described Imam Ali (عليه السلام) as maula? Like thats not obvious? So Remeber my brothers and sisters who follow the path of Ahlul bay (عليه السلام) the next time your accused of doing taqqiya remind them who really is doing the taqiyya.
  4. @Ashvazdanghe yes. I must admit, I have been having some zealous tendencies, but in all honesty. Im still having trouble having to accept that the people I once loved and looked up to wernt who I thought they were.
  5. @Hassan- Ameen. This is just one of the things. In all honesty. I have come to find that taqqiya, in terms of hiding true beliefs is a Sunni thing, not Shia thing. Another great example is hadith thaqalayn.
  6. One of the reasons why I left salafism and Ahlu sunnah as a whole. They disagree in literally everything. Forget the fact wheter they think the hands should be folded or at the sides, those that fold their hands can’t even agree on were the hands should be placed when folded. They always quote the hadith were the Prophet muhammed sawa said his ummah wouldnt unite on misguidance but even deem the salah of other madhabs as invalid. They will say that they are all correct and taqlid is okay, but how does that explain the fact that what invalidates prayer in one madhab wouldnt invalidate it in another or vice versa?
  7. Assalam alaikum. For those of you interested in why I accepted the path of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) I could give you so many reasons why this is a long post so please bear with me. I can speak to you about it for days. Heres one reason I have rejected the path of Ahlu sunnah. There is so much double standardness one starts to wonder what is right and what is wrong. Heres an example. Many Sunnis will ask Shias why they are so emotional for Karbala and that it happened a long time ago. Heres the thing, youll never hear o Karbala in most Sunni mosques. But you will hear about the assasination of Uthman. Wasnt uthmans assaniation a long time ago? Why still talk anout it then. What if I told you that in my madrasa I learned about the assaniation of Uthman before I eve knew who Imam al Hussein (عليه السلام) was. In these examples ill present some double standards of ahlu sunnah. All these arguments that are used will be only refuting the viewpoijt of ahlu sunnah just to show you how their views don’t agree or make much sense. Now, if you ask anybody from ahlu sunnha, who killed Uthman they will tell you it was the khawarij, not the sahaba, and they will speak bad about thise who killed Uthman. Understandle. Now look here, ask them about the killers of Imam al Hussein (عليه السلام) and they will say “they were neither good and bad. Thats very odd. Lets compare Imam Al Hussein to Uthman from the Sunni viewpoint. Both were sahabas. Both are among thentop sahaba. Both were killed by people from the tabain( ahlu sunnah regard the tabaiin as the best people after the sahaba) although from the ahlu sunnah view, their desths parralel each other, you will find that ahlu sunnah have to different views about their killers. Thise who killed Uthman were khawarij who are evil people yet thise who killed Imam al Hussein (عليه السلام) were neither good nor bad. So the question is what makes the killers of Uthman worse then the killers of Imam al Hussein? Well, Ahl sunnah might say, well, its because Uthman was a caliph, and he had the right to rule, so that is why they are khawarij, yazid was caliph and he had the right to rule too. Lets Agree with them for the sake of argument. Wasnt Imam Ali (عليه السلام) the caliph when muwiya revolted agaisnt him? ahlul sunnah will say, well they were both sahaba so we can’t get between them. Very well then, yazid wasnt a sahaba and he killed Imam al Hussein (عليه السلام) yet you think neither good or bad about him yet the killers of Uthman are regarded as heretics? Another thing I find very strange is how nobody besides the Imams (عليه السلام) were there defeninding Uthman. The ahlu sunnah view is that a group of khawarij came all the way from egypt to kill Uthman. My question is how did they go all the way from egypt to medina undetected? You might say, well its not like they had cameras or satellites back in the day so how would anyone know? Well if thats the case, how did the meccans find the Muslims at badr. How did the army of yazid find Imam al Hussein and his companions that numbered at less then 100? Theres no way a large army of people could be under anybodys radar. But well give them that excuse for the sake of argument. Well also give them the excuse that muawiya sent troops but they were all the way in damascas. Why didnt any of the sahaba in medina help Uthman? Why were they able to beseige his house? What were the other companions doing? Ahlu sunnah will say Uthman told them not to do anything because he was afraid of fitna. How does that make sense? Does it make sense that the sahaba would just listen to him and be like “are you sure thats what you want? Alright then, peace, good luck” does that sounds like the trait of the sahaba to you to leave their caliph just because he told you to. Is that loyalty respect and honor for you? And on top of that, after his death army after army went after to fight Imam Ali (عليه السلام) you mean those armies that went to fight him couldnt have just found those responsible for uthmans death? None of these people had enough time to make an army to defend Uthman yet they had all the time in the world to make one and fight agaisnt the man who actually helped Uthman? ahlu sunnah will say, “well they didnt know exactly who killed him” really? If thats so how do we know who killed him? Wasnt it allegedly abdallah ibn saba who led his followers to kill him? How is it that we who have lived 1000 years after this even know this but none of the sahaba knew. We know every detail about this ibn saba yet the sahaba were unaware of this? This easily destroys the whole “one Jew went around misguiding the sahaba” myth. سبحان الله. If its the case, that the sahaba caused so much killing and fitna between themselves because of him, how are we going to be when masih ad dajjal comes? If these people who are said to be the best of people can let one random jewish guy divide them how will we who are more deviant then them be against ad dajjal? And with all this what in Gods name was the point of going All the way to basra to fight Imam Ali (عليه السلام) when the killers were in medina. Ya Allah. I thank God who has guided me to the path of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام)
  8. Thank you guys for the love and support. I really appreciate it. My heart feels more at east knowing that I am following the very same people that Prophet sawa said that they would never seperate from the Qur'an until they meet him at the cistern. Recorded even in authentic Sunni hadith. This is why I like to call Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) the missing link and why those who follow them would logically be the only right path. اللهم صلي على محمد و على محمد
  9. Assalam Alaikum. I just want to start by thanking Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) for pushing me foward into the right direction. I’ve accepted that the Prophets sunnah is Ahlul Bayt and that his succesor are non other then Ali ibn abi talib and his descendents (عليه السلام) coming from a salafist background, I have to be honest and say that the notion of asking people who are gone is still hard for me to accept. Nonetheless, I can’t deny the fact that the Prophet sawa instructed us to follow his Ahlul Bayt. As I mentioned in a previous post. My people are hardline salafist so and Shia Islam is a completly foreign concept to them. So theres no way I can tell anyone im close to that Ive become a Shia anytime soon. To make matters worse, there arnt really many Shia were I live in the united states. There are only two Shia mosques in a nearby city and the closest one is a 30 minute drive. I didnt even know they existed until I did some research. Due to the small amount of Shias were I live. I can only assume that everyone who attends those mosques is from the same ethnicity and probably knows each other on a first name basis. I have bad social anxiety so going there would be a huge step outside of my comfort zone. Not to mention, ive heard stories of people who became Shia and didnt feel very welcomed by their new community. Now im not expecting anybody to hug and kiss me and throw themselves at my feet. But a basic amount of respect wouldnt be a bit too much to ask for would it? As much as people like to deny it racism is a huge affliction that affects the ummah inwardly and outwardly and id be lying if I said it wouldnt hurt to turn your back on your community and risk ostracism only to be turned away by the new one. Honestly, I don’t even think I could blame my people for turning me away in a sense since A year ago, I wouldnt hesistate to do the same to another person who became Shia. Even if this were to happen I hope it wont shake my faith in Ahlul Bayt as God knows the amount of times they were Alone and people turned on them yet never waivered in faith even for a bit. Unfortunately I don’t have the patience and piety of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) Maybe im being a bit too extreme and unrealistic so I hope you read this with a bit of empathy. Your prayers and advice would be very much appreciated. Jazakum Allah khaiyr
  10. The point you made that there are sects that are farther away from Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) was a very good one. Part of why I even give Shia Islam a second look is after id see multiple narrations of the Prophet sawa talking about following his Qur'an and Ahlul Bayt not Qur'an and sunnah. I might just still be in my denial stage
  11. Woow. Your very observant mashAllah. It makes me a bit sad to see that you knew my ethnicity just from the fact that I mentioned its very salafi and me being Shia would equal automtic ostracism. And youre right, it does feel like your almost lying to yourself. I like what you had to say, please message me if you don’t mind. Id love to have some more insight from a former Sunni.
  12. Assalam alaikum. Im looking to become a Shia after a lot of debating and thinking, Ive come to the conclusion that the best path to me to follow is the path of Qur'an and Ahlul Bayt as is mentioned in both Sunni and Shia hadith. Only thing is, whats holding me back is my lack of knowledge so to speak. From my understanding, everything we do from salah to wudhu is different. On top of that, I come from a very salafi indoctrinated ethnicty and I know that backlash and ostracism are only to be expected. I havent officialy accepted the Shia view of Islam yet but at the same time I don’t really consider myself from ahlu sunnah anymore. to be honest im in denial but I think sooner or later ill consider myself a shiatu Ali (عليه السلام) any thoughts on why I should become a full fledge Shia or why I shouldnt turn my back on ahlu sunnah?
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